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That wasn't the point I was making. Some fans act like Janet should help them pay their student loans or mortgage because they were underwhelmed.

It seems most of the Janet era videos are widely available now

The Lambs can seem to forgive Mariah for her voice cracking, why is it so hard with Janet? Either way it's only one performance.

I am..

Honestly, it's better to go the the smaller fan communities. Discussions are far healthier. But whatever happened has happened and Janet will be more than OK regardless.

Fair enough, but calling it stupid is bit dramatic...

Stupid is a bit much. Even if RN wasn't that big in the UK, it's still arguable her most prolific project. That's how most people define her sound.

ABBA wasn't exactly royalty in the US, but it didn't stop their music from being revisited.

Maybe she dresses like she does because she's still legally married...perhaps a finalized divorce will provide something less homely. From what I've seen, there is a lot of room for improvement, but the performance nor the reception was as catastrophic as some fans made it seem. The fact the publicity made some people take out their wallets (i.e., albums charted on itunes) show the affair was an accomplishment of sorts.

Well, "the Best" is #38 on Itunes (Rhythm Nation is #81), so there's the impact right there...

And the US still only has her A&M videos (except for Nasty and Let's Wait Awhile)

No, especially within the Janet community. Within the past few years, disagreements have gotten really personal. And dont get me started with the pontificating among some people.

Eh, it was pretty ambitious to come out kinda thrown together.

This kinda reminds me of Kylie's Latin version of Stop me From Falling. It's cute. Mellow but consistent. Doesn't attempt to climax for change pace in any way.

You drummed up my feelings perfectly. MJ fans need to be realistic about the negative attention his behavior brought, but his haters are disingenuous to ascertain suggestions of inappropriate behavior and ignore evidence that suggest otherwise. The claims are never gonna die period, but the fans can fight to alleviate the damage to his legacy.

It really is. Looks like a promo for a cheap horror flick.

Game's argument: - Michael was too close to those kids, therefore the claims of sexual abuse are certain. - Anybody who disagrees (and can thoroughly support their argument) are wackos, sheep. Also the right to defend oneself is victim shaming. -Wash rinse repeat (and very adamantly. People think being adamant makes a statement true.)

Add Tinashe and SZA to the list. MJB and Toni are probably the most reasonable among Janet's peers. Idk what some of you are getting Mariah from.

Well if anyone comes out of the woodwork, they should do it within the next few months. It seems with the other #metoo cases, people were coming out of the woodwork almost immediately after claims. With Michael, it seems to be one or two people every 10 years. If its gonna be like that its gonna be harder to believe anyone that comes out. Fear doesn't even hold that much water at this point as the estate has proven its incompetence to really retaliate.

The only problem with Janelle is that she isn't the megastar who some think well better validate Janet's legacy. However, her music is a lot of Janet infliences and she is well-abled to articulate Janet's influence on her life and that of many others.

Yeah I spelled it incorrectly the first time.

Nobody's ever gonna have the absolute truth, but at least documentation exists to vindicate him. Most anti-MJ articles I see is just the media fanning flames. And where did I ever implied to know him? I only said to stop making your assumptions into facts. All those claims you keep making do not mean that abuse took place. You're the one who wants to make it seem you know what took place. Honestly, Wade and James can say what they want. It doesn't exempt their statement from being challenged. You're mad because it's completely warranted.

Do you know what platonic means?

Assumption=/=Truth I don't think anything will ever fully vindicate MJ, but implying something because of something is a slippery slope. No one can reasonable prove that it is impossible for his relationship with those children to be plutonic.

JUST STOP IT!!!! Make it make sense. And I'm referring to people who strongly dislikes Michael and will cling on to anything to destroy is legacy.