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That's because the Hot 100 chart and R&B/Hip Hop charts have different sets of rules, clearly. And it's also clear that the rules regarding musicians like Herb Alpert doing an album with featured artists was different back then as well. It has nothing to do with her legacy being erased. The same thing was done to Lisa Keith who sang lead on "Making Love In the Rain". The song's chart position isn't attributed to her either. http://www.billboard.com/artist/307492/lisa-keith/chart But wait! Could it be possible that Billboard and the media is also trying to erase Lisa Keith's legacy with this omission as well?! Is a Lisa Keith's Legacy Matters campaign on the horizon?!

Well, the only correct thing that was said in here was "It starts with the base," but not for the reasons that were listed. You can't expect others to be aware of Janet's legacy when her own fans can't get facts straight. I'll exclude the plethora of inaccurate facts that exists in campaigns such as Janet's Legacy Matters and Induct Janet and just reference the inaccuracies in this thread. Firstly, Diamonds is not listed as a top 10 by Billboard because it isn't Janet's song, it's Herb Alpert's. That was the rule made by Billboard when the song first impacted the charts way back in 1987. So did Billboard have a vendetta against her then as well? And We Are The World for Haiti is no more a hit for Janet than We Are the World was for LaToya. Phoning in vocals as part of an ensemble and calling it a hit for her is just overreaching.

Embarrassing.

Album: Control, Rhythm Nation, to a lesser extent. Song: Rhythm Nation, Nasty to a lesser extent.

They were cut because of her husband. He's the reason she wouldn't even touch or stand next to another man for years. Just look at how awkward she looked with J.Cole in the music video for "No Sleeep." Given such a sensual song, for her to be fully clothed and not even embrace the male counterpart on the song, it was very obvious it was because of Wissam. That video was not the Janet I know. And I do agree with your point that the real versions need to return. The kids are irrelevant to me, but the new If routine is awful. There are certain routines you just don't modify: Rhythm Nation and If are two of them. If it comes to a point when she can't meet the physical demands of the original choreography, then she just need not perform it. But don't truncate the routine with choreography that looks horrid next to the greatness of Tina Landon's.

The optimism is admirable, but you all do this every time she announces a tour. And every time it's the same greatest hits show as the previous one with a few tweaks here and there lol. Don't set yourselves up for disappointment just because the tour has a different name. She just isn't adventurous like some other artists when it comes to digging into your back catalog and performing deep cuts, and she never has been.

Y'all are getting the same show you got last year with Daamn Baby and the State of the World instrumental during band/dancer intros being thrown in and you all shall deal.

They really think she wasn't trying to get pregnant when she launched the tour. Obviously her pregnancy wasn't done naturally. Much preparation most likely went into her getting pregnant. That's what makes the way she handles this so bad. But some fans think it was out of her hands. She really got them good.

I wouldn't be surprised tbh. They already gave her a second chance after the RWU tour, only for this to happen. She'll most likely fulfill her obligations, but she's too much of a risk going forward. Things just can't go smooth with her like other artists for some reason. Like, why can't she just finish a tour as planned? Why is there ALWAYS something preventing her from doing that? Fans point fingers everywhere except at her for that. Interesting.

Touring Europe would've been ideal, but marketing and self-promotion has never been her strong suit.

And how convenient that was. That's probably when they ditched her. FYI: Your insults and abrasive language won't make you appear intimidating or any less foolish than you always do. You just look hilariously unhinged. Something to keep in mind.

Well, I'm a fan and sales matter to me, as well as other fans. There goes your logic again. How will you change your statement again?

Sigh. Now we're bringing Madonna once again into the equation? This is why Janet fans never prosper and why Janet's career is where it is. Focusing on the wrong things and people. But now that you mention Madonna, maybe Janet should do the same. I mean, Madonna got a $170 million grossing tour out of it. Looks like a better deal than what the silent treatment got Janet. What was it? $15 million gross from 33 shows? Yeah, maybe Janet should be "desperate."

They're on a map? Where on the map? I can't locate them. And you're probably right. They probably are proud of her. That's why I can't for them to give us that 2 year plan for Unbreakable they said they were gonna give us two years ago!

So it wasn't about sales, but making money? I thought Janet Jackson didn't need that? That's what the recent informative JanetsLegacyMatters video said. I never said it was a main priority for her. Your fellow Janet fans are the ones who said sales didn't matter at all, even though Janet has clearly done things to contradict that. So you basically proved how foolish they sound. Thanks for agreeing with me!

You mean like bundling albums with t-shirts just to chart? This sounds familiar.

230k is more than they expected? Yikes! Shows how much faith they had in her. Usher is not her peer, Paula hasn't released an album since 1995, Whitney is no longer here, even still her last album sold more than Janet's last 4 globally and Rebel Heart outsold Unbreakable three times over worldwide. I'll give you Mariah, but not by much, and she's had way more success than Janet has these last 15 years, so I'd toe that line. And as far as streams, I can compare those to that of her contemporaries, and she's behind them all. So there's that.

Yeah, Janet doesn't care about sales. That's why she bundled her album with merchandise and tour tickets just to chart.

The album debuted at #1, but has only sold a little over 230k in the US and bombed completely outside of the US. And the only reason the album sold that much was because of the ticket bundling. Let's not act like that album was successful. It wasn't. Yes, it gave Janet her 7th #1 album, and gave her 4 decades of #1 albums. That's a great achievement and a testament to her longevity. But commercially speaking, it was not a success by any means. Both the album and tour needs to be salvaged because both flopped. And let's also not act like "No Sleep" was this big hit. It did well on ONE chart, which was a small, niche chart. It wasn't a mainstream R&B or Pop hit. You're right, there was no promotion, not a single interview. And that's why it debuted at #1 and was a free fall afterwards. You all need to stop using a #1 album as the end all, be all. There are albums today that sell 50k and debut at #1, does that make it successful? I'd rather have an album debut at #20 and actually get a certification, than an album that debuts at #1 and not even sell 300k. And you're saying there was people that didn't even know she had an album out, what would be different this time? At least last time there was some buzz as it was her first album in seven years. Now there is literally no buzz for a new Janet Jackson album. Majority of people are more interested in her giving birth at 50 and her divorce. No one's talking about wanting new music outside of her fan base. Which is why if she wants to release new music, have it be on a re-release for an album that deserved more attention.

A new album will most likely flop. There's no buzz for a new Janet album. No sense in releasing a new album she'll most likely not promote. A few new tracks on a re-release will suffice.

She should re-release the album with new tracks to have it chart again. Since it's an independent release and she's bundling the cd with merchandise, it'll make sense to re-release it back into the public's consciousness while on tour. The album will easily chart every week like it was doing before she postponed. That would salvage the era and would be a better look if she toured with a re-release instead of just a 2-year-old album.

I believe they were the first ones to break that Janet and Wissam were separating. Most fans didn't believe it because they have a reputation for fabricating. Then it quickly started spreading and other sites started posting it, even reputable ones. Then TMZ posted it and it was pretty much confirmed because they rarely are wrong. MSN is also reporting it and they definitely have some credibility. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/entertainmentmusic/janet-jackson-to-release-new-album-about-motherhood/ar-BBzW35N Edit: WELP, looks like my show has been rescheduled for October 26th! Tickets on sale this Friday! http://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/04004F21E54824AB?

Well maybe old people need to love Janet, then maybe she'd be as successful as Celine is right now. Just a thought.

Beautiful.