downeaznboi Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 more liberal than Hillary? At least have Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren challenge her in the primaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 An extreme liberal won't get elected in What don't you like about Hillary? Joe Biden will probably run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeaznboi Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 because the political world has moved too far to the damn right. I just feel like Hillary isn't going to change the status quo. She's one of those corporatist lefts. If she gets challenged in the primaries at least she'll have to take a stance on more liberal ideas pushed by someone like Kucinich, Warren, Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Let's just celebrate the fact there really isn't a Republican candadite that has shown up to be viable, HIllary is still viewed as viable and quite possibly the next President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 because the political world has moved too far to the damn right. I just feel like Hillary isn't going to change the status quo. She's one of those corporatist lefts. If she gets challenged in the primaries at least she'll have to take a stance on more liberal ideas pushed by someone like Kucinich, Warren, Sanders. That being said.. Again, an extreme liberal won't win What is she against that your for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeaznboi Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 It's nothing that she's against. I just don't see her pushing hard for things like wall street reforms, raising the minimum wage, tax code reforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeaznboi Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 It's nothing that she's against. I just don't see her pushing hard for things like wall street reforms, raising the minimum wage, tax code reforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The incompetent Congress regulates minimum wage, taxes, and such She can introduce laws/legislation but I don't see it happening with a Republican majority house/senate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'd love to see Warren or Sanders in office, but Hillary is the best chance we've got. She'll be fine, though. There's only so much a president can do by way of executive orders, or like Game said, introducing legislation anyway. The surest way to change things is to get most of those in Congress, especially most of the Republicans, out of office. Without an efficient Congress, it won't really matter all that much who the president is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeaznboi Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 True, but the presidential nominee is the face of the party. Not sure if Hillary will have much sway in getting the democrats from red states in line. Then there's judicial nominees and cabinet appointments. I even feel like president Obama caved in too much when negotiating with republicans. Will Hillary fight hard for the working man/woman? Will she make awful appointments like the Timothy Geithner, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeaznboi Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Don't get me started on campaign finance. America has been sold to corporations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 True, but the presidential nominee is the face of the party. Not sure if Hillary will have much sway in getting the democrats from red states in line. Then there's judicial nominees and cabinet appointments. I even feel like president Obama caved in too much when negotiating with republicans. Will Hillary fight hard for the working man/woman? Will she make awful appointments like the Timothy Geithner, She has experience as the US Secretary of State. The Democratic Party will choose the right candidate.. Who knows.. It could anyone at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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