janetDAYZ Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Beyonce can/could tour, but she had to pull a stunt to get the album to sell. You forget songs were leaking/she was performing them on tour and no one outside the stans were checking for them. Unfortunately, the "Surprise" album tactic is off the table. He just needs one single to hit decently and he'll start filling seats. I know Beyonce pulled a stunt and did all that strategic build up so her album could sell but she proved that it WORKED! Which is why I said Usher is no Beyonce. He can't pull off what she did...not in a billion yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Within the past 4 years Usher has had a 2x platinum selling album, 2 Grammy's, the 7th highest grossing tour, performed the superbowl, made bank off Justin Bieber, and judged The Voice twice.... yes, poor Usher #TheStruggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Within the past 4 years Usher has had a 2x platinum selling album, 2 Grammy's, the 7th highest grossing tour, performed the superbowl, made bank off Justin Bieber, and judged The Voice twice.... yes, poor Usher #TheStruggle Wrong. His last multi-platinum album was Confessions. Why do you keep saying that? The 7th highest grossign tour is Bon Jovi. Usher isn't even in the top 20 of highest grossing tours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I'm not shading her She's the Queen of Hip Hop Now you're just doing too much, Rochester. I know Beyonce pulled a stunt and did all that strategic build up so her album could sell but she proved that it WORKED! Which is why I said Usher is no Beyonce. He can't pull off what she did...not in a billion yrs. If he had pulled the stunt first it would've worked, and that's the point. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Beyonce can/could tour, but she had to pull a stunt to get the album to sell. You forget songs were leaking/she was performing them on tour and no one outside the stans were checking for them. Unfortunately, the "Surprise" album tactic is off the table. He just needs one single to hit decently and he'll start filling seats. And let's not act like Thief-once's album sold so many copies. It's only 3 million worldwide. Europe and the other countries ain't checkin' for that surprise album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Wrong. His last multi-platinum album was Confessions. Why do you keep saying that? The 7th highest grossign tour is Bon Jovi. Usher isn't even in the top 20 of highest grossing tours. I'm a fan I know the receipts USHER: Here I Stand - 5 mIllion Raymond vs Raymond - 2 Million Looking 4 Myself - 500,000 And OMG was in fact the 7th highest grossing tour that year. Why would I be talking about of all time? Come on now http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/42159/top-25-tours-of-2011 Total Gross: $74,954,681 Number of Shows: 73Total Attendance: 922,327 Number of Sell-Outs: 58 I don't have to lie to boost my favorites GIFSoup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 I'm a fan I know the receipts USHER: Here I Stand - 5 mIllion Raymond vs Raymond - 2 Million Looking 4 Myself - 500,000 And OMG was in fact the 7th highest grossing tour that year. Why would I be talking about of all time? Come on now http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/42159/top-25-tours-of-2011 Total Gross: $74,954,681 Number of Shows: 73Total Attendance: 922,327 Number of Sell-Outs: 58 I don't have to lie to boost my favorites GIFSoup Those are worldwide sales . As far as I know you don't get certified for worldwide sales. If you do then Beyonce has a Diamond album RIAA's website shows his last album that was certified platinum was Raymond vs Raymond. Here I Stand is also platinum. His last multi-platinum album is Confessions http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH RIAA >>> you. You didn't say that year...you said "7th highest grossing tour" period which a regular person would take as you're saying of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawdToday Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 She is overrated and pushed and promoted by the demonic machine. All her music and shows are the same and she gets away with it. Y'all are so weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawdToday Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 If he had pulled the stunt first it would've worked, and that's the point. lol Usher???? Y'all are WILD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawdToday Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 And let's not act like Thief-once's album sold so many copies. It's only 3 million worldwide. Europe and the other countries ain't checkin' for that surprise album Who else is doing that today tho? Adele? who else? ._. You are delusional af if you don't recognize the impact of that album, sales or not. The fact that we are still referencing it a year later... mind you with no hit singles on radio at that. Who is still discussing Prism? Artpop? Miley's album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Usher???? Y'all are WILD It's no shade, just truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Those are worldwide sales . As far as I know you don't get certified for worldwide sales. If you do then Beyonce has a Diamond album RIAA's website shows his last album that was certified platinum was Raymond vs Raymond. Here I Stand is also platinum. His last multi-platinum album is Confessions http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH RIAA >>> you. You didn't say that year...you said "7th highest grossing tour" period which a regular person would take as you're saying of all time. That's fine I concede Let's just remember that they didn't flop And I'll give Beyonce a Diamond album by that rule if you allow Confessions 30x Diamond status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 That's fine I concede Let's just remember that they didn't flop As you should Didn't flop but it is a major step-down from that diamond album. I wonder how Adele will fare Anyway my friend got tickets to see him . I hope he does Nice & Slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 As you should Didn't flop but it is a major step-down from that diamond album. I wonder how Adele will fare Anyway my friend got tickets to see him . I hope he does Nice & Slow. And I'll give Beyonce a Diamond album by that rule if you allow Confessions 30x Diamond status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 And I'll give Beyonce a Diamond album by that rule if you allow Confessions 30x Diamond status Sorry I don't make the rules up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Adele wont fare well. I see a Lady Gaga decline with her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 I think she'll go multi-platinum but she won't have a 21. I don't think anyone expects her too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The Voice ruined his music career?? That mess of a socalled album, Here I Stand is what ruined his career. His career was in a down spiral long before The Voice.. if anything the show is helping him as in reminding us he even exists, alot like what it did for Xtina soooo true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Now you're just doing too much, Rochester. If he had pulled the stunt first it would've worked, and that's the point. lol maybe ten years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Adele wont fare well. I see a Lady Gaga decline with her She's guaranteed 1 million. If she pulls a Bey, more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Who else is doing that today tho? Adele? who else? ._. You are delusional af if you don't recognize the impact of that album, sales or not. The fact that we are still referencing it a year later... mind you with no hit singles on radio at that. Who is still discussing Prism? Artpop? Miley's album? Plenty of people are selling 3 million worldwide lol. Rihanna, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift 6 million worldwide with last album in 2012. Nobody's discussing Beyonce's album anymore either. Hell the "Frozen" soundtrack is at 3 million in the US alone. Should I stop or keep going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 If he had pulled the stunt first it would've worked, and that's the point. lol :blink: :blink: what decade are you living in? This is 2014 not 2004 .. that's the LAST time the public was foaming at the mouth for him.. there is NO WAY IN HELL he could have pulled off a "suprise" album and would have sold .. he is NOT Beyonce , not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawdToday Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Plenty of people are selling 3 million worldwide lol. Rihanna, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift 6 million worldwide with last album in 2012. Nobody's discussing Beyonce's album anymore either. Hell the "Frozen" soundtrack is at 3 million in the US alone. Should I stop or keep going? fffff nah I got all the logic i needed from you in one post. Keep the rest sis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 :blink: :blink: what decade are you living in? This is 2014 not 2004 .. that's the LAST time the public was foaming at the mouth for him.. there is NO WAY IN HELL he could have pulled off a "suprise" album and would have sold .. he is NOT Beyonce , not even close People were anticipating Here I Stand, it's just the album was a let down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 People were anticipating Here I Stand, it's just the album was a let down Aint that the muthafuckin truth. I was excited as all hell about Love In this club but then I HEARD IT............and then Moving Mountains didn't move shit for me. Best song on that album is Here I stand. I think that wait and then outome was his downfall, it would've been a smarter move to come back in 06 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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