Bye Trump: Our National Disgrace. Finally evicted his orange ass

[Bailey]

That's why they are teasing a few black candidates but yeah I'm not sure how a white candidate can pump up the black base the way Obama did.  

If we can't get our black asses to the polls after this than we deserve whatever we get.  In Missouri they literally passed a Jim crow billed making the NAACP issue a travel warning for minorities.  Its insane.  And the LGBT and black community needs to find a way to work together.  Hispanics too.  Its like we all have our separate rallies and protest but we would be much stronger together.  

I say this with some reservation considering polls had Clinton winning, but a poll was done and 50% of respondents are embarrassed about Trump now. I dont know who they polled I just heard it tonight on NPR, whether they asked people who voted for him or what.

[kidfresh832]

This was a personal turning point for me in my acceptance of some of his supporters.  I have said before I think here I work with ALOT of them everyday in the Oil and Gas industry.  And I know they are not ALL one thing or the other.  Not all racists, not ALL anti minority, gay etc.  But some indeed are.

I know that some of them voted on economic issues, even though they admitted they didn't like that he was "kind of racist" as one of our vendors said to me before the election.  Some of them don't see social rights or give them the same weight in voting as we do.  And I disagreed, but I understood that that doesn't make them evil or what-have you.

But, now after that display yesterday.  The Anger, the passion he had, the outright defiance.  He was SHOWING us all once again this is who he REALLY is, this is how he REALLY feels.  You cannot in good conscience tell me when he says "very fine people" were in a white supremacist, tiki torch wielding mob, that he "meant" something else.  Or it was the "media overreacting" like they usually do.

I will not have it.  When has it been ok for an American elected official to say there are some very fine people at a Nazi rally?  NEVER.  You don't compliment them, you don't try to equate them with "other groups" and say well the guy that wanted to hit and punch the Nazi was "just as bad".  This Mf said "they had permits to be there btw" "the other side didn't"?  Are you fucking serious? Anyone that tries that hard to justify a Nazi and a racist is either one himself or a complete apologist/sympathizer.

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

The President of the Confederates, Donald Trump, is an idiot. 

Can we change the title of the thread to reflect his new title?

Edited August 16, 2017 by State of the Game

[DasSad]

I say this with some reservation considering polls had Clinton winning, but a poll was done and 50% of respondents are embarrassed about Trump now. I dont know who they polled I just heard it tonight on NPR, whether they asked people who voted for him or what.

I think Hillary won and I think the polls were correct. I believe there was tampering at the polls and voter intimidation.  She ran a shit campaign but she destroyed him during those debates. 

I do believe most of America are embarrassed and I don't think Trump has this huge following they keep talking about.  There was literally no one at that inauguration and that's unheard of. 

[Aquaria]

I think Hillary won and I think the polls were correct. I believe there was tampering at the polls and voter intimidation.  She ran a shit campaign but she destroyed him during those debates. 

I do believe most of America are embarrassed and I don't think Trump has this huge following they keep talking about.  There was literally no one at that inauguration and that's unheard of. 

She got 6 million more votes. I do believe that his winning has and will continue to expose the racist cancer with which this country is inflicted. I believe in the long run it's a necessary step to move forward, like lifting the rock to reveal the vermin. 

[kidfresh832]

I think Hillary won and I think the polls were correct. I believe there was tampering at the polls and voter intimidation.  She ran a shit campaign but she destroyed him during those debates. 

I do believe most of America are embarrassed and I don't think Trump has this huge following they keep talking about.  There was literally no one at that inauguration and that's unheard of. 

Its not that its a huge following its that they are hardcore.  They don't give a shit what he does or says and support him.

[kidfresh832]

[Aquaria]

 

[Bailey]

my doctor always berates me with his political banter, he told me today "Trump tells it like it is" and I cannot tolerate it anymore, Im finding a new doctor ...Ive heard how Obamacare was the worst thing to happen aside from the apocalypse to come   Ive been told things that simply were not true, and Im angry, I want to write a slew of letters to whomever is over this doctor's head and tell them how Ive been treated. Today I wanted to discuss changing meds, because the cholesterol meds he put me on made me tired, he told me to stop taking them for a month. No let's test and see if they even work in the first place, no substitute discussed. This bitch talked more about politics than medicine and I hate his Trump loving ass for it, I hate him for always dismissing President Obama whenever he saw me because here's a black guy that probably voted for Obama, if I even voted right? ...fuck this shit

Edited August 19, 2017 by Bailey.

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

Well you did vote for Obama like the rest of the country  I hope

And you should have stopped financing him yesterday. Get a new doctor  

Or be assertive... tell him he’s being unprofessional

[Bailey]

Well you did vote for Obama like the rest of the country  I hope

And you should have stopped financing him yesterday. Get a new doctor  

Or be assertive... tell him he’s being unprofessional

God was that worth you minusing it? Im having a shit day, give me a break here

[Bailey]

Well you did vote for Obama like the rest of the country  I hope

And you should have stopped financing him yesterday. Get a new doctor  

Or be assertive... tell him he’s being unprofessional

of course I voted from Obama both times ...Im just going to have to accept our relationship is love and hate, despite meeting you in person and thinking he's a nice guy

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

Don’t get all emo.. take a breath.. fire your doctor

PS: I’ve changed. I’m more fab

*insert flamboyant gif here*

Edited August 19, 2017 by State of the Game

[Bailey]

Don’t get all emo.. take a breath.. fire your doctor

PS: I’ve changed. I’m more fab

*insert flamboyant gif here*

No you're the same person I met, approachable, talkative, smiles a lot.....just dont be a fab dick

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

No you're the same person I met, approachable, talkative, smiles a lot.....just dont be a fab dick

 talkative? ? 

I hope I changed in these 7 years.. I was a baby

FIRE YA DOCTOR!!!!!!! Quit ignoring this

Edited August 19, 2017 by State of the Game

[Bailey]

 talkative? ? 

I hope I changed in these 7 years.. I was a baby

FIRE YA DOCTOR!!!!!!! Quit ignoring this

oh no the doctor's gone, I wont deal with that shit anymore, Im just feeling some kinda way like I should call write or say some shit

[kidfresh832]

 

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

 

Jesus! A busy 4 weeks

[DasSad]

 

 

Embarrassing. She didn't have to sip the water like that  I am ready to go to the polls and vote today.   The one thing I do agree with Steven Bannon on is put 100% focus on the house and senate elections and just find someone with a pulse to run for president.  It doesnt matter who is in there if they dont have the majority in leadership you won't get anything done

Edited August 20, 2017 by DasSad

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

I’m curious to see how Breibert or whatever runs now that Bannon went back to it

Before it was a conservative fake news site... think Bannon gonna change that?

[JoeJoe]

Living under his presidency it's embarassing to be an American. I think when I travel overseas if he's still president and people ask me where i'm from i'm gonna lie and say Canada or some place other than America lol

[kidfresh832]

Exclusive: Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel, large family

WASHINGTON — The Secret Service can no longer pay hundreds of agents it needs to carry out an expanded protective mission – in large part due to the sheer size of President Trump's family and efforts necessary to secure their multiple residences up and down the East Coast.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex'' Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year. 

The agency has faced a crushing workload since the height of the contentious election season, and it has not relented in the first seven months of the administration. Agents must protect Trump – who has traveled almost every weekend to his properties in Florida, New Jersey and Virginia – and his adult children whose business trips and vacations have taken them across the country and overseas.

"The president has a large family, and our responsibility is required in law,'' Alles said. "I can't change that. I have no flexibility.''

Alles said the service is grappling with an unprecedented number of White House protectees. Under Trump, 42 people have protection, a number that includes 18 members of his family. That's up from 31 during the Obama administration. 

Overwork and constant travel have also been driving a recent exodus from the Secret Service ranks, yet without congressional intervention to provide additional funding, Alles will not even be able to pay agents for the work they have already done. 

The compensation crunch is so serious that the director has begun discussions with key lawmakers to raise the combined salary and overtime cap for agents, from $160,000 per year to $187,000 for at least the duration of Trump's first term.

But even if such a proposal was approved, about 130 veteran agents would not be fully compensated for hundreds of hours already amassed, according to the agency. 

"I don't see this changing in the near term,'' Alles said. 

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers expressed deep concern for the continuing stress on the agency, first thrust into turmoil five years ago with disclosures about sexual misconduct by agents in Colombia and subsequent White House security breaches.

A special investigative panel formed after a particularly egregious 2014 White House breach also found that that agents and uniform officers worked "an unsustainable number of hours,'' which also contributed to troubling attrition rates.

While about 800 agents and uniformed officers were hired during the past year as part of an ongoing recruiting blitz to bolster the ranks, attrition limited the agency's net staffing gain to 300, according to agency records. And last year, Congress had to approve a one-time fix to ensure that 1,400 agents would be compensated for thousands of hours of overtime earned above compensation limits. Last year's compensation shortfall was first disclosed by USA TODAY.

"It is clear that the Secret Service's demands will continue to be higher than ever throughout the Trump administration,'' said Jennifer Werner, a spokesperson for Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings.

Cummings, the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee who was the first lawmaker to sound the alarm after last year's disclosure that hundreds of agents had maxed out on pay, recently spoke with Alles and pledged support for a more permanent fix, Werner said.

"We cannot expect the Secret Service to be able to recruit and keep the best of the best if they are not being paid for these increases (in overtime hours)."

South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy, the Republican chairman of the House oversight panel, is "working with other committees of jurisdiction to explore ways in which we can best support'' the Secret Service, his spokesperson Amanda Gonzalez said.

Talks also are underway in the Senate, where the Secret Service has briefed members of the Homeland Security Committee, which directly oversees the the agency's operations.

"Ensuring the men and women who put their lives on the line protecting the president, his family and others every day are getting paid fairly for their work is a priority,'' said Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, the panel's top Democrat. "I'm committed to working with my colleagues on both sides to get this done.'' 

Without some legislative relief, though, at least 1,100 agents – for now – would not be eligible for overtime even as one of the agency's largest protective assignments looms next month. Nearly 150 foreign heads of state are expected to converge on New York City for the United Nations General Assembly. 

Because of the sheer number of high-level dignitaries, the United Nations gathering is traditionally designated by the U.S., as a "National Special Security Event" and requires a massive deployment of security resources managed by the Secret Service. 

That will be even trickier this year. "Normally, we are not this tapped out,'' said Alles, whom Trump appointed to his post in April. 

The agents who have reached their compensation limits this year represent about a third of the Secret Service workforce, which was pressed last year to secure both national political conventions in the midst of a rollicking campaign cycle. The campaign featured regular clashes involving protesters at Trump rallies across the country, prompting the Secret Service  at one point to erect bike racks as buffers around stages to thwart potential rushes from people in the crowd. 

Officials had hoped that the agency's workload would normalize after the inauguration, but the president's frequent weekend trips, his family's business travel and the higher number of protectees has made that impossible.

Since his inauguration, Trump has taken seven trips to his estate in Mar-a-Lago, Fla., traveled to his Bedminster, N.J., golf club five times and returned to Trump Tower in Manhattan once.

Trump's frequent visits to his "winter White House" and "summer White House" are especially challenging for the agency, which must maintain a regular security infrastructure at each – while still allowing access to paying members and guests. 

Always costly in manpower and equipment, the president's jaunts to Mar-a-Lago are estimated to cost at least $3 million each, based on a General Accounting Office estimate for similar travel by former President Obama. The Secret Service has spent some $60,000 on golf cart rentals alone this year to protect Trump at both Mar-a-Lago and Bedminster. 

The president, First Lady Melania Trump and the couple's youngest son Barron – who maintained a separate detail in Trump Tower until June – aren't the only ones on the move with full-time security details in tow.

Trump's other sons, Trump Organization executives Donald Jr. and Eric, based in New York, also are covered by security details, including when they travel frequently to promote Trump-branded properties in other countries.

A few examples: Earlier this year, Eric Trump's business travel to Uruguay cost the Secret Service nearly $100,000 just for hotel rooms. Other trips included the United Kingdom and the Dominican Republic. In February, both sons and their security details traveled to Vancouver, British Columbia, for the opening of new Trump hotel there, and to Dubai to officially open a Trump International Golf Club.

In March, security details accompanied part of the family, including Ivanka Trump and husband Jared Kushner on a skiing vacation in Aspen, Colo. Even Tiffany Trump, the president's younger daughter, took vacations with her boyfriend to international locales such as Germany and Hungary, which also require Secret Service protection. 

USAToday

Holy Fuck.  I mean legally I get we have to pay to protect all these useless ass children.  But Fuck they aren't even trying to help by cutting back on the vacations.  I mean damn.  How many family trips do Ivanka and Jared need?  They always on vacation when these big scandals hit.  And then Trump every weekend golfing costing millions and millions.  

And the gross part is alot of this money is being funneled right back to the family by the Secret service having to pay for rooms at Trump family hotels/resorts.

Golf carts at his business which I assume he is getting paid for as well.

They were paying to stay In Trump Tower

Stay your ass at home and try to work.

Edited August 21, 2017 by kidfresh832

[Aquaria]

He is a cancer. 

[kidfresh832]

Stare at it idiot

[kidfresh832]

Trump pardons ex-sheriff convicted of defying judge's order

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has pardoned former sheriff Joe Arpaio following his conviction for intentionally disobeying a judge's order in an immigration case.

The White House announced the move Friday night, saying the 85-year-old ex-sheriff of Arizona's Maricopa County was a "worthy candidate" for a presidential pardon.

Trump signs directive banning transgender troops

President Donald Trump on Friday directed the military not to move forward with an Obama-era plan that would have allowed transgender individuals to be recruited into the armed forces, following through on his intentions announced a month earlier to ban transgender people from serving.

The presidential memorandum also bans the Department of Defense from using its resources to provide medical treatment regimens for transgender individuals currently serving in the military.

Trump also directed the departments of Defense and Homeland Security "to determine how to address transgender individuals currently serving based on military effectiveness and lethality, unitary cohesion, budgetary constraints, applicable law, and all factors that may be relevant," the White House official said.

The White House official who briefed reporters on the memo on Friday evening declined to say whether transgender troops would be allowed to remain in the military under those policy guidelines.

But the official signaled that the administration was returning to the military's pre-2016 policy under which no transgender individuals were allowed to serve openly in the armed forces.

 

Edited August 26, 2017 by kidfresh832