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Very harsh, but true. Janet already has a history of not showing Europe love so that should have been more thought of. I think that if Janet was still really hungry for continued success into her later years, she could be one of the bigger legacy tour acts (or at least a respectable one). She still has a spark to her presence and she has the hits. What she needs to add on to that is proper handling of her legacy. And, of course, more promo.

I too am also mad that "You" was just a tour video. I think that if it had used the face masks and costumes she used during its performance and then elevated it for a music video, "You" would be one of her more iconic songs. The whole production on that song is just great too

I love both, but The Velvet Rope wins. I love all the sounds they used on that album, it's just so perfect to me.

If she's not hungry for it anymore, I at least would like her to go out on a banger. This era (the tour basically) could have gone much better had there been better marketing. I'd hate for Janet to leave a bad taste in people's mouths right before she decided to semi-retire. Again, this is something that's been stated, but there should be more effort in preserving Janet's legacy. We're probably gonna get the unreleased tours soon (*crosses fingers*) but one can't even find all her music videos officially and in good quality on YouTube. The same for her best performances. Something should be done about that... The simple things can really go a long way.

The title track is probably my fave. The chorus speaks to me and Janet really shows her range during that part; she really goes off. It was such a great way to start the album. Other standouts are DB, BHH, BE, GBA, 2BL, DM. Hell, the whole thing was good

I think the ideas have already been said: she's not hungry for this anymore, her husband, bad marketing and management teams, etc. I've said this before, but I hope that she can spark up more interest for the upcoming dates with this video and some other stuff.

lol. I'm not mad but some of them were just off to me, specifically in interviews.

There were videos for those two? I would've liked to see R&B Junkie get a video.

I can't believe there's all this hate for STCML! Yes, the lyrics are kinda corny but Janet looks hot in the video, she sounds good and the "Ventura Highway" sample really gives it a nice summer-time vibe. I honestly think it was deserving of being a #1, but that's just me. Come On Get Up should have gone top 5 and Trust a Try top 20 (big maybe) if they were released commercially.

True, but I'd rather her go with the safe option for her hair because the weaves she was wearing from 2006-2008 <<<<<

That whole AIDS thing was weird. But I watched an interview that was done the year Pac died and it sounded like he didn't really have any hard feelings toward Janet; I think he wanted to patch things up. I have also heard that Rene was the one who urged for a test. If that's the case, that might explain why Q-Tip wasn't asked

I agree with you on the costume part. The Feedback catsuit and hair from the outro section definitely looked better than the yellow catsuit and mohawk Janet ended up using on the tour. All Nite was a good video. I liked the choreo. I rarely acknowledge the 20 Y.O. and Discipline era videos; they were all kinda boring or just meh. Make Me was too simple to really be anything spectacular as was No Sleep (although the video is cute). Did Nothing even have a video? I know it did, but I remember it being so forgettable when she premiered it on 106, I think. I hope the upcoming video will be a great one.

You're probably right. Bringing that AIDS test up again would definitely make her out to be a bitch. But there's always the small chance that they'd show that in a way that's fair

I think I stated this in another thread previously, but the more time Janet takes to release this video after the Dubai World Cup means the less promotion that event might be able to give her, if any. The tour starts up again (hopefully) in May so perhaps she will do something to spark interest, at least a little bit. The upcoming tour dates definitely aren't completely sold out (if they were Janet's Team would probably announce it) with seats (sometimes whole sections) still vacant... I really want Janet to win, but the way things are going, she's allowing herself to lose.

Definitely a classic indeed and probably her most iconic movie role. On the topic of movies, I wish Janet did an action movie like she said she wanted to. I heard she got offers to do a lot of them like The Matrix in the late 90's (someone confirm this) but chose to go on The Velvet Rope Tour (which was definitely a tour worth doing BTW)

We are such a messy bunch. Janet has a good month and a half to breathe new life into this era. The tour alone is not enough, she must make her presence known. Does anyone know how well the U.S. ticket sales are going? The last time I checked there were some dates that had a nice amount of empty seats.

Greatest X is just bad. It's such a shame the whole Discipline album was kinda phoned in. She only wrote an interlude on that album (4 Words) that literally only had four random words. And even on that, there was a co-writer. When I read the credits for that interlude I started dying!

Couldn't have said it any better than you to be honest

I agree with your thoughts on Tina, Rene, and the SB. That stunt, whether it was a malfunction or not, was probably the stupidest decision Janet and her team at the time came up with. Who choreographed the SB BTW? It was just so dumb to be ripping costume parts off at such a public event. Even worse, Janet handled it all terribly: she tried to dodge the problem instead of being up front about it. Coming out with a highly-sexual album right after didn't help either (but it was too late to redo an entire album of course). In a perfect world, she would have done the SB on her own like MJ without any stunts.

I feel that NS was a bad way to begin the era. I like the song, it was nice, but its sound is not appealing to the general public. It only found any real success on the AC charts (in America), but I guess it would have been impossible to do well on the Hot 100 seeing as how they tend to not play new songs by older artists.

She released one video with snippets of her in the studio and then she doesn't follow up on it. So many missed opportunities with this era.

Just saw this video online and I think it fits this thread well. SloLove, one of the album cuts from Damita Ho, was covered by Morgan State University in 2007 for their band show. Janet is appreciated even at places of higher learning.

As you guys have been stating, there have been so many things she could have done to lift this era up to a new level. Her lack of promo has been a huge mistake and I don't understand why her team hasn't forced her to correct this. When she announced the European dates, I was nervous for her (I saw something like this coming). I mean, she booked dates in places like Prague! Why?! Why would she do that? To not have toured arenas in Europe since the late 90's and then have announced all these dates at big arenas with no promo was such a bad move on her part. Another thing, she really hasn't been communicating with fans. She usually just quotes her song lyrics and calls it a day. Why not actually speak to us through Q&As or discuss the album in-depth with Jimmy and Terry. I keep seeing all these articles of JJ&TL regurgitating the same story of how Control came to be which is so odd to me seeing as how we already know that story and they haven't really revealed anything we didn't know about Control's development. She didn't do anything for Control 30, so why would JJ&TL focus on that in interviews? Tell us more about all these songs on Unbreakable: the samples, the lyric concept, the theme, this "Conversation in a Cafe" which was dropped as a hashtag pretty early on in this era, I think. I've read that she's gotten a new team since the #1's era. Maybe she should revamp her team again after this. Even after her missteps, I'll still be here for Janet's announcements, albeit with skeptical feelings. I am looking forward to this new video, hopefully the dancing, costumes and set design are all on-point

What are your favourite sensual/highly sexual Janet songs? Mine would have to be Anything, My Need, Throb, Someday Is Tonight and Rope Burn