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47 minutes ago, eli's_rhythm said:

No, I didn't. Imagery and success don't always impart more influence. Janet is her most successful album, after all. Does that make it more influential than the other three?

You did. 

"It justwasn't as huge as RN or Control, and its imagery isn't as iconic, so it's harder to place in her cannon of essentials."

This is why TVR isn't ranking next to RN1814 or Control. Not only were they much more successful, but they're herald as Janet's signature albums. And dare we not even talk about significance. 

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3 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said:

You did. 

"It justwasn't as huge as RN or Control, and its imagery isn't as iconic, so it's harder to place in her cannon of essentials."

This is why TVR isn't ranking next to RN1814 or Control. Not only were they much more successful, but they're herald as Janet's signature albums. And dare we not even talk about significance. 

 

They are definitely her signature albums. But TVR is just as acclaimed and just as influential. We are talking about different things.

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5 hours ago, eli's_rhythm said:

They are definitely her signature albums. But TVR is just as acclaimed and just as influential. We are talking about different things.

I'm talking about Control and RN1814 being her signature albums, the most iconic, and hold the greatest significance in Janet's career and shaping the progression of popular music. You're talking about something different. ^_^

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The 80 greatest albums of the 1980s by Rock Hall Inductees

 

 

 
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9. Janet Jackson – “Control” (1986)

 

If you posed the question "What is Janet Jackson's best album?" five, 10, even 15 years ago, hands down the answer would be "Rhythm Nation 1814." But as time goes on, those songs don't stay with you as much as the ones from Janet's coming out party "Control." Jackson's third album overcame a lot. It made people forget about its two lackluster predecessors and effectively removed her from the shadow of her famous family. More importantly, Jackson (along with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis) reshaped R&B into a pop and dance driven format that would lay the groundwork for New Jack Swing. By the 1990s, everyone, including Janet's big brother Michael, was jacking her style.

 

 

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58. Janet Jackson – “Rhythm Nation 1814” (1989)

 

Because it was such a creative leap forward, "Rhythm Nation 1814" is often considered Janet Jackson's most iconic album. The  concept focused on social issues with Jackson proving herself a formidable commentator. R&B and pop had never quite seen an album like this; not with its dance grooves that helped establish New Jack Swing.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/j66j-2020/03/dab97c695a9775/80-greatest-albums-of-the-1980s-by-rock-and-roll-hall-of-famers.html

 

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More importantly, Jackson (along with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis) reshaped R&B into a pop and dance driven format that would lay the groundwork for New Jack Swing. By the 1990s, everyone, including Janet's big brother Michael, was jacking her style.

That  ladies and gentleman is called IMPACT. INFLUENCE. CHANGING THE MUSICAL LANDSCAPE. PUSHING MUSIC FORWARD.

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