Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 15 hours ago, FreelovesJJ said: Oh actually let me take some of it back - I REALLY like Lessons Learned & Promise of You but she has not had a strong R&B ballad ie - IGL, FHTF, even IWY since 2004 ish. Strong R&B. Ive never been a big fan of Can't Be Good. It's ok. IGL isn’t a ballad imo. The tempo is wayyy to fast. IWY is trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, State of the Game said: IGL isn’t a ballad imo. The tempo is wayyy to fast. IWY is trash I kinda agree with you on IGL. But it seems like some music critics want to categorize it that way. Eh. I thought IWY was one of the highlights of DJ but I didn't really think it made for a strong single. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'd be here for JanDELE or JanLINE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If the songs are like Take Care, Truly, China Love, Anything, Where Are You Now, Come Back To Me, The Body That Loves You, and Twenty Foreplay, then yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelovesJJ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Illi said: I kinda agree with you on IGL. But it seems like some music critics want to categorize it that way. Eh. I thought IWY was one of the highlights of DJ but I didn't really think it made for a strong single. I agree that IWY is a dope track. I do think IGL is a ballad it's just not a very slow one. It rises & slows but tempo as far as vocally & mood is a ballad to me. I don't think it has to be very slow to count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_KINGSEANCOURT_ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Long as she gives me crazy harmonies! I'm fine. Take Care Anything Again Anytime, Anyplace Moist When We Ooh (maybe not a ballad) Come Back To Me China Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Illi said: I kinda agree with you on IGL. But it seems like some music critics want to categorize it that way. Eh. I thought IWY was one of the highlights of DJ but I didn't really think it made for a strong single. That’s weird. I can see why people call it that but I don’t consider it that Clearly DJ lacks highlights if IWY is considered a great song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Id be for it especially if she were willing to experiment with her voice and different types of ballads, I wouldnt want a album where everything sounds the same, and that goes for a dance or mid-tempo album too, mix it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneashleymusic Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 And thus the confusion around what is considered a ballad vs. what is considered a mid-tempo... popular urban music today (Trap) is generally on the slow side, so we’re Livin’ In A World of slower tempos overall. But still, I would definitely consider After You Fall, Black Eagle and Lessons Learned to all be ballads, and in my opinion, songs that stand up with Janet’s best works. No Sleeep IMO is a quintessential mid-tempo, in the vain of Got Til It’s Gone, That’s The Way Love Goes or Unbreakable. I too have issues with Discipline as an album, particularly from the songwriting and vocal production standpoints. But among the the cuts on that album, Can’t B Good is the very best vocal she did there. I would be interested to see how we rank Janet’s best ballads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, wayneashleymusic said: And thus the confusion around what is considered a ballad vs. what is considered a mid-tempo... popular urban music today (Trap) is generally on the slow side, so we’re Livin’ In A World of slower tempos overall. But still, I would definitely consider After You Fall, Black Eagle and Lessons Learned to all be ballads, and in my opinion, songs that stand up with Janet’s best works. No Sleeep IMO is a quintessential mid-tempo, in the vain of Got Til It’s Gone, That’s The Way Love Goes or Unbreakable. I too have issues with Discipline as an album, particularly from the songwriting and vocal production standpoints. But among the the cuts on that album, Can’t B Good is the very best vocal she did there. I would be interested to see how we rank Janet’s best ballads. I don't consider Black Eagle a ballad..it's more midtempo imo. But it's her best written song, so I don't care to categorize it. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleidoscope Eyes Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Discipline (the song) is so underrated Zaddyyy make me kryyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 6:38 AM, State of the Game said: IWY is trash I've been waiting for someone to say this. Fans really overrate tf outta that song. The best slow jam/ballad on DJ is CTBL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 15 hours ago, hotboy06 said: I don't consider Black Eagle a ballad..it's more midtempo imo. But it's her best written song, so I don't care to categorize it. LOL. "You", sweetie, I am so sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 hours ago, hotboy06 said: I don't consider Black Eagle a ballad..it's more midtempo imo. But it's her best written song, so I don't care to categorize it. LOL. It’s not, by a significant margin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: I've been waiting for someone to say this. Fans really overrate tf outta that song. The best slow jam/ballad on DJ is CTBL. I think IWY is decent. I don't see fans calling it some masterpiece or underrated gem though. If there's one song the fans overhype of DJ, it's Island Life. CTBL is just simply forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Illi said: I think IWY is decent. I don't see fans calling it some masterpiece or underrated gem though. If there's one song the fans overhype of DJ, it's Island Life. CTBL is just simply forgettable. Hmmm they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 18 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: I've been waiting for someone to say this. Fans really overrate tf outta that song. The best slow jam/ballad on DJ is CTBL. Sadly, it didn’t make the US version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Illi said: I think IWY is decent. I don't see fans calling it some masterpiece or underrated gem though. If there's one song the fans overhype of DJ, it's Island Life. CTBL is just simply forgettable. IL is definitely overrated but only on J|X. They love that song on there, for some reason unbeknown to me. 1 hour ago, State of the Game said: Sadly, it didn’t make the US version It shouldn't have either lol. LYDLM fits the album better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: It shouldn't have either lol. LYDLM fits the album better. That’s not saying much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 You know what, I change my opinion w/ CTBL. Though still forgettable, it's a cute little bop. But it's not a ballad, more mid tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: IL is definitely overrated but only on J|X. They love that song on there, for some reason unbeknown to me. It shouldn't have either lol. LYDLM fits the album better. I mean IL grew on me a little, but some fans say it should have been a single. Bish whet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/16/2018 at 11:45 PM, Mr. Wonder said: "You", sweetie, I am so sorry. On 3/17/2018 at 4:24 AM, J. said: It’s not, by a significant margin Denying the Gospel will only bring you sorrow and despair. Blasphemers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It’s not even the best lyrically on the album. Lessons > You have to read the lyric book to find out though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, J. said: It’s not even the best lyrically on the album. Lessons > You have to read the lyric book to find out though LL is nice lyrically..but.. Beautiful soul I haven't metA spiritual connection I'll never forgetYour precious light incredibleSharing his love that is meant for us allCome out of shadows into the lightBe free to imagine the future you'd likeSoaring above all of your boundariesYes the day will comeJust remember when you're overwhelmedDream and take some time to love yourselfBelieve you're free to do whatever you wantNo no more room four Bible worthy. Legend of inclusivity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, hotboy06 said: LL is nice lyrically..but.. Beautiful soul I haven't metA spiritual connection I'll never forgetYour precious light incredibleSharing his love that is meant for us allCome out of shadows into the lightBe free to imagine the future you'd likeSoaring above all of your boundariesYes the day will comeJust remember when you're overwhelmedDream and take some time to love yourselfBelieve you're free to do whatever you wantNo no more room four Bible worthy. Legend of inclusivity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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