wayneashleymusic Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 This year's MTV EMA Global Icon award is going to legendary pop and R&B singer Janet Jackson! Janet will celebrate the occasion by performing a medley of her iconic hits including her new single "Made For Now" at the MTV EMA on 4 November. It will be her first ever EMA performance. http://www.mtvema.com/news/bua5fg/janet-jackson-global-icon 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vibeology Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Euro "promo" kicking in I guess. So curious about how things are gonna go down here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It means they'll get tour dates sometime in the future. It'll probably be the "Christmas gift" to them. Tour will start there in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Bitch i'm mad at you for posting it before me!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said: It means they'll get tour dates sometime in the future. It'll probably be the "Christmas gift" to them. Tour will start there in March. Her next #1 LP when? November? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Who would have thought considering that Janet is a local sensation... Anywho, sis is slaying these icon awards. So happy we get to see her again. She really is spoiling us...love it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, JoeJoe said: Bitch i'm mad at you for posting it before me!!! As it you were gonna be on time. 43 minutes ago, Game For Now said: Her next #1 LP when? November? Do LPs go on the BB200? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said: As it you were gonna be on time. Do LPs go on the BB200? Joe has literally never posted news Yeah they do but they’re a waste of time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Game For Now said: Joe has literally never posted news Yeah they do but they’re a waste of time She's testing the waters with this LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneashleymusic Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 And UK Official Top 40 was ready for this announcement!! Though it would've been slightly better had they mentioned Janet's UK Number 1s on the Albums chart and the R&B Chart. https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/janet-jacksons-official-top-40-most-downloaded-songs__10662/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: She's testing the waters with this LP. LP or EP? Either way, an independent artist doesn’t need to test water especially someone of her caliber That “testing water” is horsewash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzo88 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Game For Now said: LP or EP? Either way, an independent artist doesn’t need to test water especially someone of her caliber That “testing water” is horsewash Thank You!!! Dive bish, DIVE N RELEASE!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Right. Just release it. Fans gonna buy it regardless and the general pop is gonna ignore it regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Game For Now said: LP or EP? Either way, an independent artist doesn’t need to test water especially someone of her caliber That “testing water” is horsewash Sorry I meant EP. And let's stop with this "someone of her caliber" narrative. She's not above anything, if we're being honest. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said: Sorry I meant EP. And let's stop with this "someone of her caliber" narrative. She's not above anything, if we're being honest. And let’s stop with this “testing the waters” narrative. That’s not a thing in 2018. You release or don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Here we go again. I dont want Janet releasing shit unless she is confident. Fuck that and anybody who thinks otherwise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Tituba said: Here we go again. I dont want Janet releasing shit unless she is confident. Fuck that and anybody who thinks otherwise I don’t understand where “releasing shit” comes into play. She’s not doing an EP imo. If she were she would have already released it or announce it as an EP bc, from her lips, she has enough material for an album and that British producer was interviewed talking about an EP and the five tracks it over the summer Her being in the studio is an indication that she’s releasing a full album (as she should) Just bc it’s not an EP (which is a waste of time) doesn’t mean it’ll be shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelovesJJ Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 So, hypothetically, lets say the direction has changed from EP to LP - it would not be because an EP is a waste of time. It also isn’t because she has enough material to release an album. She ALWAYS over records material. Then they decide what stays and what goes. If you don’t think MFN was tested before she dropped it to get an opinion on if it would do better than other stuff she has recorded you’re naive. Not to mention she has songs better than MFN on ice right now. MFN was recorded in the FIRST half of the SOTW tour. It’s actually about a year old. If you’re a fan of Janet you know there have been GREAT ideas that didn’t pan out...for whatever reason from lingerie lines to productions. If you get an album before an EP, I’m willing to bet the initial strategy for the EP will not be fully executed for an entire album & that’ll be kinda unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, FreelovesJJ said: So, hypothetically, lets say the direction has changed from EP to LP - it would not be because an EP is a waste of time. It also isn’t because she has enough material to release an album. She ALWAYS over records material. Then they decide what stays and what goes. If you don’t think MFN was tested before she dropped it to get an opinion on if it would do better than other stuff she has recorded you’re naive. Not to mention she has songs better than MFN on ice right now. MFN was recorded in the FIRST half of the SOTW tour. It’s actually about a year old. If you’re a fan of Janet you know there have been GREAT ideas that didn’t pan out...for whatever reason from lingerie lines to productions. If you get an album before an EP, I’m willing to bet the initial strategy for the EP will not be fully executed for an entire album & that’ll be kinda unfortunate. Literally there is no direction, publically What does that stupid and ill-timed bra line or What’s the T have to do with music in 2018? Let that shit go. JanFam always living in the past MFN was Tested privately between her peers and colleagues... shocking revelation!!!! Too bad that a completely different test than dropping a waste of time to the fans after years of releasing actual albums. Keep that shit. Drop an album. Continue that tour, perform those 6 songs that were going to be on that EP anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Game For Now said: And let’s stop with this “testing the waters” narrative. That’s not a thing in 2018. You release or don’t She's testing the waters lol. She's doing an EP to see how she'll perform in the streaming era. If it performs well, she'll probably do a whole album down the road. If it doesn't, it can't be held to the same standard as an album because it's only an EP so the expectations aren't the same. Her image isn't tarnished by a poor performing EP, or she can be praised for a successful EP. It's literally a win-win situation for her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said: She's testing the waters lol. She's doing an EP to see how she'll perform in the streaming era. If it performs well, she'll probably do a whole album down the road. If it doesn't, it can't be held to the same standard as an album because it's only an EP so the expectations aren't the same. Her image isn't tarnished by a poor performing EP, or she can be praised for a successful EP. It's literally a win-win situation for her. Spoiler alert: she doesn’t have to do an EP to “test the streaming waters” bc she’s not a streaming artist. Never will be. She’s 50+. Her demographic is older and are less inclined to stream (or rent) music compared to the youth who won’t touch her. Spoiler alert: all albums will perform poorly unless you’re Drake, Adele........... that’s about it She can literally do all that with an LP. Tarnishing her image didn’t stop her in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2015. So now y’all are for EP bc releasing 5 songs won’t tarnish her image (nothing to do with testing out sounds)? Just release an album like ya did in 2015. It didn’t exactly perform well but it was critical acclaimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelovesJJ Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Game For Now said: Literally there is no direction, publically What does that stupid and ill-timed bra line or What’s the T have to do with music in 2018? Let that shit go. JanFam always living in the past MFN was Tested privately between her peers and colleagues... shocking revelation!!!! Too bad that a completely different test than dropping a waste of time to the fans after years of releasing actual albums. Keep that shit. Drop an album. Continue that tour, perform those 6 songs that were going to be on that EP anyhow You’re so fucking obtuse it’s ridiculous. The point of bringing up things that didn’t happen is to explain shit is often planned in Janet’s camp that doesn’t always pan out. It has nothing to do with how “good” or “bad” of an idea it is. You’re unaware of the intended strategy for an EP so you’re so against the shit that every time it comes up you police the statements with negative responses. You just MIGHT get your album without the EP & IF you do, I’m betting you will have gotten a lesser roll out & strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 No one cares about the stupid bra and panties line that should NEVER have been a thought... it has nothing to do with music. The documentary has nothing to do with music. You mentioning them as if 1) they are relevant 2) I didn’t know about Janet’s stupid ideas during the Great Repressive Era. As a fan, I don’t care about a strategy. It doesn’t matter. The EP or album isn’t going to sell, it’s not going to stream well. It’s for the fans.. give the fans what they want. An album. A tour Save that EP BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelovesJJ Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, Game For Now said: No one cares about the stupid bra and panties line that should NEVER have been a thought... it has nothing to do with music. The documentary has nothing to do with music. You mentioning them as if 1) they are relevant 2) I didn’t know about Janet’s stupid ideas during the Great Repressive Era. As a fan, I don’t care about a strategy. It doesn’t matter. The EP or album isn’t going to sell, it’s not going to stream well. It’s for the fans.. give the fans what they want. An album. A tour Save that EP BS You’re stupid af - the bra line is what could have been a very smart business move for Janet - it’s more residual income & with a brand like hers she could have played off of that for many years and made a lot of money. Your opinion on that is irrelevant because you’ll respond just to be petty. The music being rolled out is a strategy and to say as a fan you don’t care about strategy is because you don’t realize that as a fan - you are a part of the fucking strategy. You are a consumer. Fan is a nice word for consumer. So if the music is for the consumer then there is always a sales strategy. The music is for more than just you Janet is a business with a lot of people attached to her. She has a label and ambitions beyond herself. She would and could be the first form of a proof of concept for any other artists to be developed by her and her team. Not to mention - when it’s all said and done we’ll have another convo. You think you don’t care & you think it doesn’t matter but that’s with you not realizing the potential of what could be created. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yes a smart business move after America hates your for exposing your boob.. perfect timing to sell sex after a scandal I don’t care about her money flow. That doesn’t matter to me or you. As a loyal consumer to Janet (like most marketable businesses), we’re going to buy it no matter what. So a music strategy isn’t to attract her fans, it’s to attract new fans much like an iPhone isn’t to attract the previous model but the older models So no. The strategy doesn’t matter to fans. All that matters is the new music and if that’s on point then everything else is extra I don’t care about potential. Unless that potential four more albums in 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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