Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yes a smart business move after America hates you for exposing your boob.. perfect timing to sell sex after a scandal. Its like if MJ opened a kiddie park in the 1990s In America I don’t care about her money flow. That doesn’t matter to me or you. As a loyal consumer to Janet (like most marketable businesses), we’re going to buy it no matter what. So a music strategy isn’t to attract her fans, it’s to attract new fans much like an iPhone isn’t to attract the previous model but the older models So no. The strategy doesn’t matter to fans. All that matters is the new music and if that’s on point then everything else is extra I don’t care about potential. Unless that potential four more albums in 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Game For Now said: Spoiler alert: she doesn’t have to do an EP to “test the streaming waters” bc she’s not a streaming artist. Never will be. She’s 50+. Her demographic is older and are less inclined to stream (or rent) music compared to the youth who won’t touch her. Spoiler alert: all albums will perform poorly unless you’re Drake, Adele........... that’s about it She can literally do all that with an LP. Tarnishing her image didn’t stop her in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2015. So now y’all are for EP bc releasing 5 songs won’t tarnish her image (nothing to do with testing out sounds)? Just release an album like ya did in 2015. It didn’t exactly perform well but it was critical acclaimed. Aside from your multiple misuse of "spoiler alert", it's clear you don't know her demographic, or how the media works by this point. Ouch. Ya'll should know, at least by now, that I'm almost always right when it comes to Janet. Take care dear. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: Aside from your multiple misuse of "spoiler alert", it's clear you don't know her demographic, or how the media works by this point. Ouch. Ya'll should know, at least by now, that I'm almost always right when it comes to Janet. Take care dear. As an admin of a large Janet group on Facebook, I can give you an idea of her demographic based on a group of 6.1k actual people and I have knowledge of her demographic that way (better than any way you can anyhow) Quote 54% Men; 46% women 56% of total men & women are between the ages of 25-44 33% are older than 44 8% are under 24 years old Which means 89% of Janet’s age demographic is between the ages of 25-elderly (Demographic consists roughly 6100 people from around the world... error of +/-3%) While streaming is dominated by most music users of all ages, it’s not going to work out for older artists “Almost always right” doesn’t matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 While streaming is dominated by most music users of all ages, it’s not going to work out for janet “Almost always right” doesn’t matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 So. Many. Words. Typed. Over. Nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: Aside from your multiple misuse of "spoiler alert", it's clear you don't know her demographic, or how the media works by this point. Ouch. Ya'll should know, at least by now, that I'm almost always right when it comes to Janet. Take care dear. Gather him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Game For Now said: As an admin of a large Janet group on Facebook, I can give you an idea of her demographic based on a group of 6.1k actual people and I have knowledge of her demographic that way (better than any way you can anyhow) Please see Commandment #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 -Having "alot of material" does NOT equate to having QUALITY material. -History has shown that when Janet is NOT sure and/or pushed to release an album.. it is SHIT (every single time) The very man who puked on DJ,20Yo, and Disc (which Janet was either experimenting or pushed to release these projects) is the SAME exact man who is saying now .. "Hey, Janet...release whatever you got! It will be good im sure!" Norman, how do you know this? And if you dont know it will be of quality, then why should she release it? Oh, juss cus fans want it? Oh ok..well lets juss add to the trash collection of DJ,20 and Disc. Dude, please STOP. Juss maybe i could understand your logic if you actually was a lover of her 3 post SB flops ...but you werent and this project would have no true direction like the ones you didnt like. The irony is beyond insane here. YOU DID NOT LIKE THOSE ALBUMS. What would make this unsure direction any better than those uncertain projects in her past????? TF?!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: Please see Commandment #3. So how does approval ratings for public figures work? How about market research? Exit polling? Any polling? You think they’re millions of people that take surveys? 6.1k isn’t a small number but nice try attempting to discredit my unofficial survey. The numbers don’t lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, janetDAYZ said: -Having "alot of material" does NOT equate to having QUALITY material. -History has shown that when Janet is NOT sure and/or pushed to release an album.. it is SHIT (every single time) The very man who puked on DJ,20Yo, and Disc (which Janet was either experimenting or pushed to release these projects) is the SAME exact man who is saying now .. "Hey, Janet...release whatever you got! It will be good im sure!" Norman, how do you know this? And if you dont know it will be of quality, then why should she release it? Oh, juss cus fans want it? Oh ok..well lets juss add to the trash collection of DJ,20 and Disc. Dude, please STOP. Juss maybe i could understand your logic if you actually was a lover of her 3 post SB flops ...but you werent and this project would have no true direction like the ones you didnt like. The irony is beyond insane here. YOU DID NOT LIKE THOSE ALBUMS. What would make this unsure direction any better than those uncertain projects in her past????? TF?!! You don’t know the quality of her new music so saying that is ridiculous History shows what? I’m not pushing her. With that logic, wouldn’t an EP be “poor quality” Eh on the Great Oppression eras which has nothing to do with now She did fine with Unbreakable and MFN is right where she should be. I have confidence that her new album will be amazing. An EP is a waste. I love those album. Hundreds of spins over the years. Are they better than anything between 1986-2001/2015? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Unbreakable = Quality = She WANTED it 20 YO = Trash = Pushed to record (cus she has so much material) Case Closed. Good Nite. We will visit a shit album again with your failed logic and watch you be the MAIN one talking about how crappy it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, janetDAYZ said: Unbreakable = Quality = She WANTED it 20 YO = Trash = Pushed to record (cus she has so much material) Case Closed. Good Nite. We will visit a shit album again with your failed logic and watch you be the MAIN one talking about how crappy it is. She pushed herself with nothing to say in 2004-2008 She has shit to say now. A son, a divorce, living for the moment. Janet always records an abundance for an album btw Otherwise she would have released that EP already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Game For Now said: So how does approval ratings for public figures work? How about market research? Exit polling? Any polling? You think they’re millions of people that take surveys? 6.1k isn’t a small number but nice try attempting to discredit my unofficial survey. The numbers don’t lie It means you retry your argument, but this time spare us the fallacy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I love the new article Billboard wrote about Janet earning her milestone 20th no.1 Dance song https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8480664/janet-jackson-20th-number-1-dance-club-songs-chart-made-for-now-daddy-yankee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: It means you retry your argument, but this time spare us the fallacy. An argument has two sides. You haven’t reached your burden of proof. Just dismissed mine (atypical Aussie). So please, instead of throwing out fallacies you, where is your opinion? Oh right! You don’t have one. The fact that you cannot disprove my facts on Janet’s age demographic speaks volumes also 6.1k isn’t a small value though it does come from one source. I can ask Janet Euphoria but there’s a lot of overlap between Janet groups JanFam isn’t a large group and 89% of her base being above 25 isn’t that hasty considering but whatever Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, Game For Now said: An argument has two sides. You haven’t reached your burden of proof. Just dismissed mine (atypical Aussie). So please, instead of throwing out fallacies you, where is your opinion? Oh right! You don’t have one. The fact that you cannot disprove my facts on Janet’s age demographic speaks volumes also 6.1k isn’t a small value though it does come from one source. I can ask Janet Euphoria but there’s a lot of overlap between Janet groups JanFam isn’t a large group and 89% of her base being above 25 isn’t that hasty considering but whatever Austin I didn't dismiss your argument. I just pointed out that it was fallacious in nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 54 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: I didn't dismiss your argument. I just pointed out that it was fallacious in nature. Cool story bro. So whats Janet’s Base demographic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Game For Now said: Cool story bro. So whats Janet’s Base demographic? This can't be determined because there is no definitive metric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 23 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: it's clear you don't know her demographic, 26 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: This can't be determined because there is no definitive metric. Soooooo you don’t know her demographic. Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 18 hours ago, janetDAYZ said: -Having "alot of material" does NOT equate to having QUALITY material. -History has shown that when Janet is NOT sure and/or pushed to release an album.. it is SHIT (every single time) The very man who puked on DJ,20Yo, and Disc (which Janet was either experimenting or pushed to release these projects) is the SAME exact man who is saying now .. "Hey, Janet...release whatever you got! It will be good im sure!" Norman, how do you know this? And if you dont know it will be of quality, then why should she release it? Oh, juss cus fans want it? Oh ok..well lets juss add to the trash collection of DJ,20 and Disc. Dude, please STOP. Juss maybe i could understand your logic if you actually was a lover of her 3 post SB flops ...but you werent and this project would have no true direction like the ones you didnt like. The irony is beyond insane here. YOU DID NOT LIKE THOSE ALBUMS. What would make this unsure direction any better than those uncertain projects in her past????? TF?!! I love what you said but don't do Damita Jo album Dayz. Just don't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Game For Now said: Soooooo you don’t know her demographic. Ouch This isn't how implications work, dear. And no one knows her demographic as it can't be determined because there is no definitive metric. If you're going to quote me to try to make a point, don't fumble like you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: And no one knows her demographic as it can't be determined because there is no definitive metric. You said “it’s clear you dont know her demographic” as if 1) you knew 2) she has one Sooooo you just don’t know is what you meant to say in the beginning. Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: And no one knows her demographic as it can't be determined because there is no definitive metric. You said “it’s clear you dont know her demographic” as if 1) you knew 2) she has one Sooooo you just don’t know is what you meant to say in the beginning. Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Game For Now said: You said “it’s clear you dont know her demographic” as if 1) you knew 2) she has one Sooooo you just don’t know is what you meant to say in the beginning. Cool This isn't how implications work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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