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2 hours ago, VelvetKnowledge1814 said:

Why hasn't your brother been productive in 15 years, if you don't mind my asking?

that's sort of a long story really, but in short he believes life has been unfair to him and he deserves the best because of that. So despite having nothing,  he could get a job at say McDonald's but he's too good for that, so nothing is better than something :umm:  his mother enables his behavior, many have said let him out there and let him fall and pick himself back up, thing is he wants to do whatever he does without consequences and when you have someone that "protects" you through enabling behavior you're not equipped to deal with real world consequences for bad choices. He has a non-violent criminal record too, which causes getting employment difficult, not impossible but when you dont want to take a job unless it's the best you really leave yourself zero tangible options when you have a record.

My mother is life support for him, he can work, he could go suck it up and get a shit gig that pays something right now, but he aint trying to do all that. He does not possess the minimum survival skill set that an adult at 41 should have, he has never maintained a place on his own, he has never financed a car of his own, most of what he has has been given to him. I dont think letting him "fail on his own" is going to end well now, its been too long, he doesnt have a clue.

For example, as has happen often, if mom gives him money to pay a bill, he will go to a casino gamble it in the hopes he will win it back and then come back saying he "lost" the bill money thus screwing all parties involved. Some would ask why would my mother give him money to pay a bill over and over for him to screw the money over? I think my mother really wants to see him be responsible and its not happening. He has a bad habit of buying lottery tickets and scratch offs, because he's going to hit it big someday and everything is going to be okay.

Sadly the discussion amongst us now is social security, he hasn't been employed so he hasn't paid into the system, which means he has nothing coming, Social security is the most basic safety net that keeps otherwise poor people from being desperate homeless people

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I like the idea of having a mini me and raising him the way I wish I was raised. But realistically I don’t really want children or think I will have them. Also they are expensive af. -_- I think I’ll be happy being the creative artsy uncle. -_- 

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32 minutes ago, Aquaria said:

I like the idea of having a mini me and raising him the way I wish I was raised. But realistically I don’t really want children or think I will have them. Also they are expensive af. -_- I think I’ll be happy being the creative artsy uncle. -_- 

That doesn't cut it for me, I need to create the family I dont have, I need to create a legacy, some fingerprint I was here and this life mattered beyond I just lived and existed. I will say my pastor said when we did have our only sit down that he did not feel any desire to have a "mini me" those were his exact words. I kinda do I would love a beautiful child of my own DNA :unsure:

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14 minutes ago, Rocknet said:

That doesn't cut it for me, I need to create the family I dont have, I need to create a legacy, some fingerprint I was here and this life mattered beyond I just lived and existed. I will say my pastor said when we did have our only sit down that he did not feel any desire to have a "mini me" those were his exact words. I kinda do I would love a beautiful child of my own DNA :unsure:

Family doesn’t need to be blood. :unsure: 

Would you use a surrogate?

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4 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

I love kids and I spoil my family and friends kids. I used to want kids in my 20s but not now. I think I wanted kids back then cause I wasn't too social and didn't travel a lot like I do now. Now it's my life's dream to travel the world and definitely can't with kids. I still love kids but JoeJoe ain't got time to raise none plus i'm old now lol

well Im not at peace with all those realities, maybe I can nut in a cup and some sperm bank will create a 100 mini mes that dont know they me -_-  Im too old at this point it's a bit late

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Just now, Aquaria said:

Family doesn’t need to be blood. :unsure: 

Would you use a surrogate?

Im not sure I agree, my first thought is to "right" the blood line, get a bunch of Baileys with a good foundation, good rearing, and a great loving home. To me that is breaking the family curse.

Surrogacy is fine, as long as my nutt is 50% of the formula I have no concerns where the cake is baked.

I have a "friend" that went and married another dude that has lots of money, they just had a baby boy, I asked my "friend" what was what and he told me, the child wasn't his baby it was his partners and the next one will be his :umm:

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2 minutes ago, Rocknet said:

well Im not at peace with all those realities, maybe I can nut in a cup and some sperm bank will create a 100 mini mes that dont know they me -_-  Im too old at this point it's a bit late

I’d you’re still pumpin spunk, you’re not too old. We don’t have the same biological clocks as females. -_- 

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besides my co-worker who had a kid at 42 said there are times he is selfish that he feels terrible he thinks he's a bad parent. For example, the other day his daughter whose 3 came up to him and asked him to get her something to drink, he then realized he had been doing his own shit so long she had gone several hours without her needs met. In that moment he said he felt like shit...

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Just now, Rocknet said:

besides my co-worker who had a kid at 42 said there are times he is selfish that he feels terrible he thinks he's a bad parent. For example, the other day his daughter whose 3 came up to him and asked him to get her something to drink, he then realized he had been doing his own shit so long she had gone several hours without her needs met. In that moment he said he felt like shit...

Yeah he sounds like a bad parent. 

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1 minute ago, Aquaria said:

I’d you’re still pumpin spunk, you’re not too old. We don’t have the same biological clocks as females. -_- 

when I refer to age, I refer to the hands on actual patience, work, love, energy, and all that required to raise a child. I am embarking on a career here that I have had time to consider what it all means, it means for the foreseeable future I will remain right here in Michigan since I plan to do grad school here. That means my friends, a partner, all of that will have to be here...and this place is a shit hole of no count muthafuckas :filenails:

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2 minutes ago, Rocknet said:

when I refer to age, I refer to the hands on actual patience, work, love, energy, and all that required to raise a child. I am embarking on a career here that I have had time to consider what it all means, it means for the foreseeable future I will remain right here in Michigan since I plan to do grad school here. That means my friends, a partner, all of that will have to be here...and this place is a shit hole of no count muthafuckas :filenails:

Sorry I can’t relate I live in New York City. -_- 

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Just now, Rocknet said:

but in Baileys the DNA goes back and forth, so I'm probably carrying the shit idiot gamblers and my brother is carrying the geniuses -_-

Look at it this way: If your DNA ends up in my belly we won’t have to worry about children. ^_^ 

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in summary, I want kids, 2 at the very most. I want to love and share all that I can, but I dont see it happening. I haven't even had a relationship go beyond two years tops. Im not out going and I wouldnt want to pass on bad habits or traits to another kid. I wouldnt want to raise a child alone either, that means a true partner, and I dont see that happening either. But for the record this state of affairs isnt the way I would have had things if I had complete power over it

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53 minutes ago, Rocknet said:

well Im not at peace with all those realities, maybe I can nut in a cup and some sperm bank will create a 100 mini mes that dont know they me -_-  Im too old at this point it's a bit late

lol well luckily for me I have a nephew that looks just like me. Sometimes I don't even wanna be around anybody while enjoying my free time so not having kids is alright with me.

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6 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

I love kids and I spoil my family and friends kids. I used to want kids in my 20s but not now. I think I wanted kids back then cause I wasn't too social and didn't travel a lot like I do now. Now it's my life's dream to travel the world and definitely can't with kids. I still love kids but JoeJoe ain't got time to raise none plus i'm old now lol

this is something that holds me back from it too...I know people with kids resent it 

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