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Just now, Bailey said:

Wade gives me a vibe, like he's mad as fuck at the world or himself or some shit, he was too comfortable with going graphic, now I can say somethings but damn this shit made me embarrassed

It's all there, he wants this, he wants to be the star, he says it. He wants people to feel sorry for him to have them on his side and support his moves.

Also I have a theory of why they had to include Wade's family drama in this, it's literally the only time Wade sounds legitimately sad and sincere, like I couldn't have said that without seeing this, the most moved I've been through the whole doc is he & his family talking about his father's suicide.......(a hunk of time that has NOTHING to do with Michael or their friendship...just the fathers issues)...

9 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I am so proud of your logic, because its what Ive said from the start watching this, people dont say the sort of things these guys are saying as "victims" without being emotional or something I didnt see these dudes freak out and Im freaking out hearing the shit  

Thanks, and I'm really proud of the GP, I gave them alot less credit than I should've, like you legit can't say "it's only MJ fans who don't like this/don't agree with it" people are really pressing, and saying "I'm not even a MJ fan, but this don't seem right" like this isn't a clean sweep at all. And what I can't get with is Wade being "ashamed" of defending Michael as long as he did, but then his mouth literally says "he doesn't regret defending him" in the doc......................................................................that's the shit right there......that's the muthafuckin shit right the fuck there, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!  THIS is who we should believe? THIS is who we shouldn't fact check??

I really was trying to take this seriously too....but um......I damn near squealed at that 

I'm over halfway through this mocumentary.......this is what's "convincing" people?!? ..... Like the words they're saying are as graphic as everyone said (hell even a lil more) but the behavior when talking about it is like way off....vs.....actual documentaries and actual victims, like what in the hell...? Yea your mind is only swayed in this if you were always leaning on Guilty and never looked into evidence but just don't like the way things "looked" or If you have the mentality "everyone who accuses anyone of anything is telling the truth". But if facts & evidence & consistency is your thing, you should be questioning many things, and I'm glad to see so many are

 "the right questions"

She'd have a inch more credibility over this....if OWN wasn't streaming it too Getcho rattings up girl!

5 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

Which reviewers? Link

Please watch. Then explain how a grown man on tour has a kid companion sleeping in his hotel room/bed (James) 

Corey isn’t relevant. It’s another misdirection

“look this child Star wasn’t touched!! So James & Wade are lying” #fallacy

..................so basically what you're implying by not knowing that nearly every review trashed this being a "doc", yet accused others of not reading them? Again WHAT ARE DOING BEING SO BLATANTLY WRONG, why would you set yourself up like this?!?! Even the reviews that praise the "doc" take aim at that, again what are you doing? 

At times “Leaving Neverland” feels more like a deposition than a documentary, given we’re hearing from only one side, again and again.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/in-hbo-documentary-michael-jackson-is-possibly-a-molester-definitely-a-weirdo/
The larger issue with Leaving Neverland, though, is that for something that calls itself a “documentary,” it is woefully one-sided — and in some cases, conveniently selective about the information it chooses to include about its two subjects. 

https://ew.com/tv-reviews/2019/02/21/leaving-neverland-review/

Leaving Neverland is not a movie that allows for two sides to this story. 

https://slate.com/culture/2019/01/leaving-neverland-review-michael-jackson-documentary-sundance-abuse.html

Not a particularly imaginative documentary, in that it sticks to a straightforward narrative, and, in its empathetic approach, doesn't bother trying to include views from "the other side."-Boston Globe

But Leaving Neverland's greatest advantage — its focus on the two men's personal testimony — is also its biggest weakness, as no one outside their families is interviewed by the filmmakers to provide a wider context. Most of the rebuttals to accounts of abuse in the movie come from news clips of Jackson and his lawyers addressing different allegations from different accusers. However, there are other sources who could have corroborated the men's stories, including former employees of Jackson questioned during the pop star's 2005 molestation trial (Jackson was acquitted on all charges).

It's a stark contrast to another recent, attention-getting documentary, Lifetime's Surviving R. Kelly, which surrounded first-person allegations of abuse against the R&B star with fresh interviews. They featured everyone from Kelly's high school music teacher to two of his brothers. That approach left little doubt that viewers had seen a wide-ranging narrative that built its case on the foundation of dozens of similar stories.

For Leaving Neverland, the lack of outside voices seems a crucial weakness, especially given that both men sued Jackson's estate years after his 2009 death. Their lawsuits were dismissed after judges said they filed claims too late, but their lawyer plans to file an appeal.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/01/699208558/neverland-makes-a-powerful-but-one-sided-case-against-the-king-of-pop

So sleeping in a bed equals sex no matter what......everyone who gets in a bed only gets in for sex, literally nothing else , there's more witnesses and people saying otherwise.

AH so you have to be "relevant" to be telling the truth  He's extremely relevant in this case as is everyone who was ever a kid in Michael Jackson's life, relevancy means nothing, witnesses and people that knew the man do.

And you either want to see evidence or you believe he's guilty so you believe any story that says he is no matter how fake or wrong it is.

1 minute ago, Game For Now said:

Uhhh have you watched documentaries bro

You are confusing this documentaries with a trial

This is a story of two boys who were MJs secret lovers. 

Cool. He can come as hard as he wants to 0_o Doesn’t makevit factual

 Jeffrey Dalmer didn’t choose to eat his neighbor either. Just feed him dinner  

I'm waiting until I have 4 hours of comedy to spare today, but you don't need to when that's literally EVERY positive & negative response AND the directors proud goal of the doc, to be 1 sided. And no, like many reviewers say, by definition, documentaries of this nature especially are supposed to present opposing sides so I think it's you who's confused dear

It doesn't make what Corey's saying factual, but his word carries more weight than theirs and he's more credible than both of them on this subject. I mean does Dahlmer's neighbor have a history of destroying other cannibals in their life?

1 minute ago, Bailey said:

do they have to be that graphic? What purpose does it serve? If the guys said the man touched me, that's enough, you dont have to go into extreme detail of how and where and what and all that mess, its designed to gross people out and make them angry. The truth doesn't need salacious details for defense, the truth defends itself

YES they do, they have to disturb people who were/are on the fence about Micahaels guilt or innocence. If it doesn't disturb people, it stands the chance of people looking at the facts and not taking their performances seriously (which I love people are actually calling out their performances too)

Oprah (the OWN network more so) needs this...they have The Real Housewives Of Alabama.........they have shows the trashiest networks passed on......#Telling

And I find it weird she's giving this attention but she was good judy's with Weinstein and has been quiet on that, hasn't said ANYTHING about R.Kelly or that doc or those victims, nor has she talked to Corey Feldman about the years of abuse by powerful men, or anyone from the documentary about (not so) underground pedophilia rings in Hollywood called an Open Secret that wasn't at all 1 sided. Michael accusations will always get attention, Oprah knows that, we all know that, Oprah needs views & promotion for it.

I got love for Oprah, but she plays dirty when she wants to, and to know her history is to know THAT.

Just now, Bailey said:

it was a classic make the audience feel emotion and thus vulnerable. it was for sympathy and wrong as fuck because it had absolutely nothing to do with MJ....and these folks accuse MJ of manipulation

I can't at people taking that tool of a director or this doc seriously after he's gone everywhere and harped on "I want this to be as 1 sided as possible".......that's how "the truth" works?!?!? Eh we have alternative facts, now we have #alternativetruths

1 minute ago, Bailey said:

there is ZERO balance, no one is questioning anything....and let me be frank, since the subject is MJ and whether he did this or not,  I dont care about those guys families at all, dont spend 20 minutes talking about a divorce that aint related to shit here, stick to the facts and the subject at hand

That was 1 of the criticisms everyone was talking about (along with it being 1 sided as fuck), but no you're suppose to care so you can feel bad, and they can get more money....aww.

2 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

That’s not how Documentaries work 

 

Neither is presenting only 1 side of a story

30 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

I LOVED how [insert random person who knew the abuser] is hitting back on behalf of someone who [insert activity abuser did]

From serial killers to murderers to child abusers to racists

Corey’s statements have nothing to do with anything aside from he was MJ’s type of boy

 Except, Corey is someone who comes out HARD against child abusors and cover ups, thus much to your dismay this carries weight and more weight than a normal "he didn't do it to me"  If he didn't make a career out of naming names of real pedo's you would maybe have a point

That's what they can hope, but much to their dismay, the reaction is still mixed AF

And their acting/performances have been getting dragged by everyone

I LOVE Corey Feldman is hitting back on behalf of those who actually were in a position to have something happen with MJ many times but it didn't....whilst his pinned tweet is about him coming out about abuse in Hollywood.

Just now, Game For Now said:

Prove it was worked on? I need clock-in time sheets, breaks & love footage. I’ll wait

 I’ve heard that on Twitter already

Um...Game......if it wasn't worked on, the inconsistency of his stories & his accounts since he 1st changed his mind (damning enough there) wouldn't be an issue...period...like are you asking to prove he changed his story.....cause well.... that's literally what this is all about

Yup the facts are being given with the smoke  

2 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

Anyone can do that if they have a compelling story

The fun part is, Wackos will give him the attention  by being social media warriors and copying and pasting what they read 

Exactly which is why this one had to be worked on.

The thing is the attention discredits him, "copying & pasting" facts to answer to fiction is a bad look for the fiction creator

4 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

As he doesn’t get paid for this documentary 

Yup but the potential book deals, speaking engagements, and pitty jobs he would get paid for if they can get the right dumb people to ignore the facts and jump on their side.

Then again their word of not getting paid isn't exactly coming from credible sources.

47 minutes ago, Bailey said:

have you seen the documentary? Im watching it now, and I swear Wade I get the feeling he's really angry ...not about some abuse, but he's going so graphic and so detailed its like he wants people mad too

Nah I'm waiting till tomorrow, not giving this fiction 2 days

And that's what I'm expecting honestly, he NEEDS this money, so he needs to take advantage of peoples stupidity & the current climate to capitalize. I'm loving how everyone's being dragged for their "too happy" tone, also the fact checkers are spreading the words good.

Glad to see alot of Dragging going on in the #leavingneverland Twitter feed, like facts are being spoken & stepped up for and it's a beautiful thing. Also threats of lawsuits for falsely accusing other "victims".

I think this'll be the tone of it all through the week, some will bring up what was said, but others will bring up what's been proven & what hasn't been.

Im loving the Unbreakable Hair pt.2 in this pic

#TeamAfronet

I want a entire era of variations of afros and braid/loc styles, I've honestly wanted that since Discipline, and I hope even if it's not this era it's coming.

I think she gets bored with black hair fast. 

TODAY.........it's all about.......