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2 hours ago, Jakob said:

Okay. Well, the Unbreakable album came out when the tour was 1 month in. That's reasonable. I meant that it would be illogical to release the album at the end of the tour. By now, the Black Diamond album probably would've been a few weeks from being released, but a single release in April or May would've been very possible considering all the great promo we were getting in February. 

Also, I think that beautiful picture Janet shared on her birthday is part of the album booklet. 

Orrrr intended tour booklet. The tour was intended to be first. The tour is the anchor the album is an offering. I know die hard fans see it opposite but trust me...she just needed another reason to keep touring since she had been performing for the last 4-ish years. 

On 6/21/2020 at 2:53 PM, Jakob said:

That wouldn't have made sense. The tour would've kicked-off in a few days. She was not gonna drop the first single after the first show (at least I don't think so). And yes, she said we would be getting the album before the end of the tour, but by now we would've had a release date and album cover. Why would you wait that long to reveal everything when the tour is already happening?

I can’t remember but I think Unbreakable the cover came out after the tour was underway I THINK! Janet in her later years has not moved to the “make sense” direction. She moves to the direction that fits her schedule & desires. IF she said before the tour ENDS that means at any given time while on tour...likely to keep interest going it would hit middle of the first leg. 

For Janet as a legacy artists her TOUR promotes her music vs the other way around. The general fan will find out she’s on tour & not even consider the new music. The new music just allows her to diversify the tour & energize it as the momentum builds. 

On 6/21/2020 at 10:18 PM, Angela said:

She wouldn’t be the first artist to do this. I’m 100% sure Beyoncé went on tour in 2013 months before she dropped her self-titled album. It’s not new for artists to phase it in while on tour. It could be a myriad of reasons: not having the album finished yet, still working through a promo schedule, etc. Those things could’ve been in work while touring. 

Bingo. Also to another point I saw you make - she is not looking to chart huge singles anymore. Those days of chasing that is over. Getting a number one will continue to solidify her legacy. That’s a obtainable based on when she drops & who she drops against. That’s strategy & she can do that. 

On 6/15/2020 at 1:33 AM, jinthahouse said:

Im here studying wow. Before the first date we would've gotten a  single and a music video for Black Diamond Tour

This is not true. 

On 6/15/2020 at 4:24 PM, Jakob said:

True. By now we definitely would've had the first single + music video, album cover, album release date.  

On the other hand, we can still be excited for all these things at a later moment this year or 2021.

There wasn’t any promises or intentions to drop a song, video, & album cover. As a matter of fact, she was planning to unveil things on tour including the new music & while on tour start to phase in the new project. 
 

Honestly, the project was to give new material to her tour & fuel more sells. Janet has had music in the chamber since before, during, & after SOTW tour. 
 

At this point, she could drop an EP of new music/unreleased music. With some graphics & content to amplify it...that would just hold her over till next year. 

As far as the music goes, Black Diamond as a concept would be an ideal project for right now. She could discuss any and everything from her unjust treatment and surviving it, to her motherhood & concerns as a mother, to the movement & her support of the movement & being a Black woman. She can literally create a very elevating & timely piece of art right now. 
 

Ultimately it would be for her core fan base but it would be something she could really stand on. 

34 minutes ago, J. said:

I see why they didn't use it. Cool to hear, though.

exactly. I’m so grateful they knew better. Those notes sound forced & pitchy. They weren’t necessary. She literally just got louder but it had nothing to it. 
 

I still get hype off ATAP adlibs after the second verse. 

I have an idea for a topic for the music lovers - in the spirit of Janet’s “Pillow Talk” being played by Questlove, I wanted to ask what other songs have you always felt Janet could remake or sample? Here are two to get started. I’ve always felt Janet could redo both of these & it would be great! 

Never mind, found it!

Please!! I am begging anyone who watched Questlove's IG Live tonight as he paid tribute to Janet...he played Janet's version of Pillow Talk originally by Sylvia. I have waited to hear this track for years...I tried to record the screen by my phone didn't get the audio. Long before it was said she remade it...I was campaigning for her to do so, and didn't know it existed until a couple years ago. SO I AM BEGGING please share that mutha fucka with me lol, I never ask for much but this is huge for me!

32 minutes ago, Lenzo88 said:

So....what are the chances of the corona virus outbreak hauling European dates as well as other countries?!? The rollout for Black Diamond started off SOOOOOO strong...but it’s been over a month since the big announcement. I wonder what’s going on with Janet and her team....

While it’s fair to wonder how it will be by July, her silence has nothing to do with the virus. Everyone does this every time she mentions a song, tour, residency for the last few years. She does a little press & everyone thinks she’s about to jump back into 1994 & do press everywhere. She comes out initially then makes minimal pop ups. That’s about it. 

17 minutes ago, jinthahouse said:

i mean what @Lenzo88 said is so true because mutha has been working EXTENSIVELY. There was an interview where she said that she doesnt work as long hrs as before but it feels like she is doing so much things all at once. This woman has never had a break since the birth of Eissa. His early years will just be full of his mother working and working tirelessly. 

This is the woman who jumped out of a 2 year tour and 5 weeks later curated a whole las vegas show with brand new choreography. 

I’m not saying Janet is working hard touring, she is. This is the most she’s toured back to back ever in her career. What I’m saying is the belief that new songs will be heavily promoted and she’s about to ramp up & be all over doing shows & press & multiple videos & touring etc. is a thing of the past. She’s definitely going to be getting ready for tour & resting but I love how fans still get excited for Janet that’s an amazing thing BUT I think they get excited with the anticipation of Janet moving like she did at her prime. 
 

5 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Exactly!!!! Not to mention, Janet NEEDS to rest ya’ll. She has a new WORLD tour coming this summer with extensive rehearsals for months, the music video for the first single, live performances/promo for the first single, album release, album promo, etc. After 2 years of back to back touring, Janet needs to seriously recharge. Not to mention, you know she’s getting back into shape and is working her ass off too. Also, she needs time with her son. More promo is coming and relentlessly again I’m sure of it. Momma just needs a breather so she can keep up...before she starts cancelling again n you complain why!!!

You’re so optimistic lol

9 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

I get what your saying, don’t get me wrong but Janet and her team are also working on gaining new fans aka the younger generation to get into her by maintaining new music that is extremely current as well as working with artists who are extremely trendy. If Janet just relied on her old fans to sell tickets, I don’t think the sales would becas great as they want them to be. This is a NEW ERA with NEW MUSIC, not just for the diehard fan base but for the potential of a new generation of fans. Aka these teen and 20something gays being introduced to the Janet realm of before and now!!

Again, Janet’s intentions is not to get the younger audience. That’s a VERY small margin of ticket sales - also because the younger audience doesn’t have disposable income to afford acts like Janet Jackson who they only know 1-4 songs of. If by younger you mean 20s because Janet’s true audience is 30s - 50s thats her base. 
 

The new music is specifically to get a number 1 in 2020 AND to diversify her show some. Let her core know she’s still working. She does not rely on her diehard fans alone but she does rely on the audience that grew up with her & her family. The Jackson fans, the casual fans, the ppl who love her but don’t check for her. There are ppl who will attend who will be like - nice new music but not remember or care to search for it after. That’s the more likely experience. 

On 2/17/2020 at 2:59 PM, Jakob said:

I will share my ultimate setlist tomorrow, but i need her to do 'Better Days'...

Agreed

2 hours ago, bonsaibutterfly said:

The only way I see her doing the carpool karaoke is that SHE drives the car and James is sitting next to HER. She's a frequent driver, right. At least she used to be. She wants to be in control and she needs to be able to switch the station if she wants to. Honestly, I'm not too fond of this show... It doesn't always bring out the best of the artists and it is kind of lame already. She doesn't need it imo

In carpool karaoke no one is actually driving the car. The car is being pulled and filmed. 

1 hour ago, hotboy06 said:

Well since she said on Seacrest that it will drop before the tour ENDS, then we want have the whole album before the tour.

I...

 

 

Right but ppl feel she’ll give 4 videos from an album that she won’t even drop before the tour happens. 

20 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Honestly, I hope and feel we‘ll get at least 4 videos this era!!! Janet made enough money from touring these past few years to make this era look and feel as big as possible. If the album and tour does well (and I think they will a lot more than usual! ) then she’ll want to invest in more visuals during the era for fans as well as a newer, younger audience. Who knows really?!?

I’m sooooooooo glad she participated in this segment! Highlighting her live vocals is a great drive toward the tour. 

3 hours ago, J. said:

Nah

In the end it’s not me you’d be disappointed in. I hope she follows what her strategy was when she considered releasing that EP that some insisted her not to do but we’ll see. 

4 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Honestly, I hope and feel we‘ll get at least 4 videos this era!!! Janet made enough money from touring these past few years to make this era look and feel as big as possible. If the album and tour does well (and I think they will a lot more than usual! ) then she’ll want to invest in more visuals during the era for fans as well as a newer, younger audience. Who knows really?!?

Ok. Wait and see. 

3 hours ago, J. said:

Her contemps are doing it, so—

 

And indie girls with no budget are popping out more than two.

 

no excuse

This isn’t an excuse this is business & the model Janet follows. Which has made her more profitable. Also it’s not the same budgets as indie girls. Janet’s shooting 5K-10K music videos. Nonetheless, you guys just sit back & see how it plays out. 

Now see that’s what I’m saying! Glad to hear she did one of his staple fun segments and of them all - Classroom Instruments! She never usually gives those kinda candid musical moments so this is exciting. I can see escapade as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Nasty since they discussed it. 

9 hours ago, J. said:

There’s no excuse for there to be less than three videos. None.

Music videos are not a top priority like they used to be. I GET wanting as much Janet content as possible, wanting to see her in her element & doing what she was known for...but making 3 music videos isn’t just the standard. 

7 hours ago, jinthahouse said:

With that said since the emphasis is on the tour and her touring status as one of the best do you think that she will play hits with a little bit of new music?

Absolutely. No doubt about it, if you notice it she’s promoting it with what’s called nostalgic marketing - “with a special performance of RN”. She’s appealing to those who remember her highlight years. 
 

The “with new music” is to say btw I’ll be making some music too. But truth is I’m sure beyond it being a number 1 there are low expectations for sales. A win will be a sold out tour & a number 1 title. When you get to the show it will focus on her catalog and sprinkle in new tracks as she’s been doing. 

4 hours ago, kaeh1213 said:

I feel like the tour announcement is getting more of the focus because it actually has dates. 
 

There hasn’t yet been a concrete date or even month/time of the year attached to the news of the Black Diamond album. I wish Jimmy Fallon asked her to be more specific about when it comes out, other than “sometime this year.”

I mean, I know this album isn’t going to go the way of the 2018 EP, the Pleasure Principle lingerie line, the deal with Lionsgate to produce a movie... but I’d rather she give us even a ballpark date range for the album’s release because, well, I want to know everything! 
 

(My guess would be middle/end of May, That still gives them time to work on the album, and then a couple of months for the songs to be out in the world and we’ll know the lyrics, giggles, “yeah, yeah” and other Janet ad lib moments that you can’t help but sing along to.

(And I hope they have a video roll-out plan where we get more than 2 videos from this album!)

 

You likely will not get more than 2 videos. The marketing budget is best spent on the tour in these years. It’s not to he pessimistic but this is the experience of falling in love with an artist who ages into legacy. 

21 minutes ago, Kaleidoscope Eyes said:

I feel like the tour aspect is drowning out the album announcement. Geez, guys, Janet’s done a shit ton of tours these past 4-5 years...THE ALBUM IS COMING!

Because touring is a bigger sell for Janet Jackson in 2020. The album is like awe nice, but outside of her core fans...the tour is the value. Bc most ppl feel Janet doesn’t really perform heavily even though her fans know she has been in recent years. She has a brand of being one of the last elusive celebrities left. Sooo most aren’t waiting for an album but always want to see her. 

Janet will headline Essence again this year. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said:

Oh wow! I can't wait! There's gonna be new routines, big production, and a huge creative vision well executed! We should discuss our hopes and expectations because what would possibly go wrong? 

 

You’re hilarious

Preston helps perpetuate rumors that she gets work done. Also, I feel like they need to address new stuff - Janet Appreciation Day, play a game together, the transition of motherhood, what does she want out of her career for the future etc. 

Not recycled questions. Also she doesn’t appear to be in tour prep mode. She is keep herself in the public but she doesn’t seem to be on a heavy regimen right now. Just from observations, buuuut what we do know is music has been recorded.