JoeJoe Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 hours ago, wayneashleymusic said: What page of the Billboard archive? I was going to tweet this out to RIAA and Rhythm Nation. page 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 following Janet's numbers is tough because Control and RN preceded the soundscan era. Most of Janet's numbers need to be recertified, but because the only gain in doing so is bragging rights it doesnt make money to go back and do it, she got paid well for what she did, in order to update numbers research time and money need to be spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Bailey. said: following Janet's numbers is tough because Control and RN preceded the soundscan era. Most of Janet's numbers need to be recertified, but because the only gain in doing so is bragging rights it doesnt make money to go back and do it, she got paid well for what she did, in order to update numbers research time and money need to be spent Well EW.com wrote back in 2014 for the 25yr Rhythm Nation anniversary that the album sold 20 million. EW has never been known to lie. http://ew.com/article/2014/09/19/janet-jackson-rhythm-nation-1814-25th-anniversary/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, JoeJoe said: Well EW.com wrote back in 2014 for the 25yr Rhythm Nation anniversary that the album sold 20 million. EW has never been known to lie. http://ew.com/article/2014/09/19/janet-jackson-rhythm-nation-1814-25th-anniversary/ They lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr. Wonder said: They lied. and how you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeJoe said: and how you know Because I asked the author of the article where he got that figure, and he never responded. I wonder why... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So bc he didn’t answer some random tweet = he lied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 He was literally responding to tweets all day when I asked. Also, Janet's team already confirmed 14 million, which is a valid source. Why the need to fabricate her career? You're getting like TOF and them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneashleymusic Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 RhythmNationUSA liked my tweet when I brought up RIAA recertifications, and the possibility that janet. could qualify for Diamond. So we know they are paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 11:47 AM, Khalil said: Correct me if I’m right is Janet total record sales between 150 and 160 million That is correct. The link is on the first page in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: That is correct. The link is on the first page in the OP. without music club subscriptions and any recounts years after, nor illegal copies distributed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 6 hours ago, wayneashleymusic said: RhythmNationUSA liked my tweet when I brought up RIAA recertifications, and the possibility that janet. could qualify for Diamond. So we know they are paying attention. RN1814 could also be diamond, if this article is true: "Janet Jackson's last two A&M albums sold more than 14 million copies in the U.S. alone. "Rhythm Nation 1814," released late in 1989, contained five Top 5 singles, four of which rose to No. 1 on the pop charts." March 12, 1991 http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-12/entertainment/ca-335_1_michael-jackson By this time Control had already been certified 5x platinum. So that leaves 9 million RN1814. This is believable because, serendipitously, the same day, the NY Times published this article: ""Control," released in 1986, sold more than five million copies in the United States. "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation," released in 1989, recently passed the six million mark in sales in this country." https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/12/arts/janet-jackson-signs-lucrative-contract.html This is about two weeks before Soundscan started counting physical sales. RN1814 was only certified 5x platinum at this point. The next certification didn't occur until late 1992. So everything Soundscan has reported for RN1814 can be added separately from the certification. 6 million + 1.3 mil (Soundscan) + 1.1 mil (Sony BMG) = ~8.5 million. Add in other music clubs and shipments, I would think it's eligible for 9x platinum at least, diamond possibly. And then add Track Equivalent Albums (TEAs) and Sales Equivalent Albums (SEAs), it's not unlikely RN1814 is diamond as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 On 11/4/2010 at 8:31 AM, hotboy06 said: Janhova most likely doesn't care.. As long as she got paid for what was sold, and Im sure she did, she probably doesnt care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Looks like "All For You" album sold 9 million worldwide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeJoe said: Looks like "All For You" album sold 9 million worldwide Where does this come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Jakob said: Where does this come from? Here and apparently "Damita Jo" sold 2 million. All of them come with a COA https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/janet-jackson-all-9-platinum-record-162738739?fbclid=IwAR3UeXKi9dd4zH-uU59lBhCrzRmBntieloUh34dvyLy-CBbqBED2A6WGfuc https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/janet-jackson-damita-jo-double-1812328390 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 hours ago, JoeJoe said: Here and apparently "Damita Jo" sold 2 million. All of them come with a COA https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/janet-jackson-all-9-platinum-record-162738739?fbclid=IwAR3UeXKi9dd4zH-uU59lBhCrzRmBntieloUh34dvyLy-CBbqBED2A6WGfuc https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/janet-jackson-damita-jo-double-1812328390 But aren't these old numbers? Wikipedia and other sources has said that Damita Jo sold nearly 4 million copies for YEARS. 9 million copies for All For You seem legit, although I wouldn't be surprised if those sales have past the 10 million mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jakob said: But aren't these old numbers? Wikipedia and other sources has said that Damita Jo sold nearly 4 million copies for YEARS. 9 million copies for All For You seem legit, although I wouldn't be surprised if those sales have past the 10 million mark. The Damita Jo one seems more of a US sales number. I believe AFY sold over 10 million but the Madonna stans keep editing Janet's numbers down on wikipedia. Some of them work in wikipedia. I remember they edited the "janet." album back down to 14 million worldwide and I went back to edit it to 20 million with the link and receipt to Virgin's site saying themselves that the album sold over 20 million but they still put it back down to 14. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 "ALL FOR YOU was Janet’s fifth consecutive album to debut at #1, with more than seven million in worldwide sales." https://www.janetjackson.com/news/live/janet-jacksons-greatest-hits-celebrated-on-number-ones#.XGxfYfrQjIU We are not about to do this today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. Wonder said: "ALL FOR YOU was Janet’s fifth consecutive album to debut at #1, with more than seven million in worldwide sales." https://www.janetjackson.com/news/live/janet-jacksons-greatest-hits-celebrated-on-number-ones#.XGxfYfrQjIU We are not about to do this today. Yeah, and those numbers are now 10 years old plus they haven't been updated in a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, Jakob said: Yeah, and those numbers are now 10 years old plus they haven't been updated in a long long time. It's 7 million until Janet's team/label says otherwise. There's no need to fabricate or inflate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: It's 7 million until Janet's team/label says otherwise. There's no need to fabricate or inflate. But nobody was fabricating here. Joe Joe simply found some to bite on. If you don't find it credible, fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Mr. Wonder said: It's 7 million until Janet's team/label says otherwise. There's no need to fabricate or inflate. that was a whole decade ago. Let's not. There's a reason why her sales jumped from 100 million to 160 million when BMG announced it back in 2015. That plaque also has a COA so I highly doubt it's fake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Illi said: But nobody was fabricating here. Joe Joe simply found some to bite on. If you don't find it credible, fair enough. It's fabricating, and it's annoying. There's no need to inflate sales. 8 hours ago, JoeJoe said: that was a whole decade ago. Let's not. There's a reason why her sales jumped from 100 million to 160 million when BMG announced it back in 2015. That plaque also has a COA so I highly doubt it's fake. It's 7 million. Janet's team confirmed it. Leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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