SloLove Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Execs are probably more often wrong than right. People forget Virgin record didn't even want to realease "That's the way love goes" and it turned out to be Janet's biggest hit. hello somebody! and how they cut mariah that check to leave after one "flop" album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 no it's not again...because you never hear the bad on the execs side...the execs have tons of artist so dont give me that crap about they need to make a living as well. The execs are not always right as Kelly just explained and as Pink proved to L.A Those are the bad... We don't hear the good.. Well we do but you don't know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Execs are probably more often wrong than right. People forget Virgin record didn't even want to realease "That's the way love goes" and it turned out to be Janet's biggest hit. are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Clive's team has released a statement As anyone who has read "The Soundtrack of My Life" knows, I think Kelly Clarkson is a tremendous vocal talent and performer. In the book, I provide an in-depth look at our years together during which we shared major multi-platinum success, as well as a few creative differences. I am truly very sorry that she has decided to take issue with what I know to be an accurate depiction of our time together. Before the book was published, I had every fact checked with five independent individuals who were present on a daily basis throughout it all. The chapter as it is written was thoroughly verified by each and every one of them. I stand by the chapter as written in my book. At the same time I wish, and will always wish, Kelly's talent and her career to soar to ever new heights. - Clive Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 are you serious? wow @ you not knowing that.. I believe they wanted "IF" to be the first single... I can see why... it's the best song on the album... but clearly not the most successful tho Janet had it wrong with GTIG... Clearly IGL or TA shoulda been lead single for TVR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Same issues Janet was having with L.A...these record execs need to be checked! Don't get me going there, LA Reid did her dirty, Discipline never really got off the ground after Feedback, its like the label pulled the whole project so early why did they even bother at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 wow @ you not knowing that.. I believe they wanted "IF" to be the first single... I can see why... it's the best song on the album... but clearly not the most successful tho Janet had it wrong with GTIG... Clearly IGL or TA shoulda been lead single for TVR See I disagree here, Janet had a clear vision of wanting to make records that were not predictable, she came with TTWLG because EVERYONE expected some huge production dance hit, that came after with "If" ...but TTWLG was a way to slip back into the scene without making a huge scene. Same with VR, she wanted to introduce herself without making some huge ass statement about it, I think that is in keeping with her humility. Sometimes the best records are the ones you don't see coming they quietly come on the scene and they are just good records, TTWLG was just that. Besides if you are an artist in it for the long term of a project, you don't throw out the biggest moments at the start you make people wait build more anticipation of whats to come that way the album lasts longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 See I disagree here, Janet had a clear vision of wanting to make records that were not predictable, she came with TTWLG because EVERYONE expected some huge production dance hit, that came after with "If" ...but TTWLG was a way to slip back into the scene without making a huge scene. Same with VR, she wanted to introduce herself without making some huge ass statement about it, I think that is in keeping with her humility. Sometimes the best records are the ones you don't see coming they quietly come on the scene and they are just good records, TTWLG was just that. Besides if you are an artist in it for the long term of a project, you don't throw out the biggest moments at the start you make people wait build more anticipation of whats to come that way the album lasts longer she made a huge scene though That was her biggest hit off that album..but i see what you're saying.. now-a-days artists release the best song first... which means the rest of their album usually suck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 she made a huge scene though That was her biggest hit off that album..but i see what you're saying.. now-a-days artists release the best song first... which means the rest of their album usually suck... now a days its make that quick buck because albums don't usually last that long, Katy Perry milked the fuck outta "Teenage Dreams" BUT most artist NOW, you get in quick hit em fast hope it works get yo paper and get out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Damn. A scalping that the Navajos would be proud of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah..ur right Bailey..artists today can't pull a "Janet" and release an "introduction" single becuz that one single release just might be all they get lmaoooo..they have to make every single release count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 And the fact the he didn't like My December... I loooooooove me some "My December". Their disagreement on the album was so public, he really didn't believe in that record at all. It almost seemed as if he wanted it to fail to prove a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Didn't Kelly turn down a $10million cash payout from Clive to record 5 songs he wanted her to record? Doesn't sound like someone that would cry over one song being put on an album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I loooooooove me some "My December". Their disagreement on the album was so public, he really didn't believe in that record at all. It almost seemed as if he wanted it to fail to prove a point. He did. He wanted Kelly to be the biggest popstar in the world and she just wanted to be honest with her music and express herself thru it. I think Catch My Breath explains it clearly And the people that were there with Clive and Kelly on that meating are now on twitter calling BS at Clive's response to this Kelly drag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 He did. He wanted Kelly to be the biggest popstar in the world and she just wanted to be honest with her music and express herself thru it. I think Catch My Breath explains it clearly And the people that were there with Clive and Kelly on that meating are now on twitter calling BS at Clive's response to this Kelly drag Clive is crazy. I personally feel Kelly has made great decisions in her career and I like that she has such a dedicated fanbase and a solid touring reputation (she has toured every year since she started). She's been here for 11 years and I see her having many more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 And the people that were there with Clive and Kelly on that meating are now on twitter calling BS at Clive's response to this Kelly drag Lol who is dragging him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Clive is crazy. I personally feel Kelly has made great decisions in her career and I like that she has such a dedicated fanbase and a solid touring reputation (she has toured every year since she started). She's been here for 11 years and I see her having many more. Clive is good at picking up the tight team to get a hit and he usually knows what to do with an artist to make him/her blow up but the problem is that He (just like LA) thinks that his opinion is the only thing that counts and that his artists need to bend over for whatever he says. At this day and age most record labels want puppets and not artists with an opinion. Agreed. Even though i stopped paying attention to her after MD i'm happy that she was able to get thru it all and get some sucess Lol who is dragging him?? ashley arrison @ashleyarrison Paid "fact checkers" don't count. #teamkelly That's kelly's assistant who was there at the meating Kelly had with Clive Ashley Donovan @ashes2lashes @ashleyarrison cue People Like Us. #teamkelly Ashley Donovan @ashes2lashes Someone should be thankful for the relevance and book sales bestowed upon him. #teamkelly @jasonhalbert I was there for a lot of it. She speaks the truth ... #teamkelly @ashes2lashes @jasonhalbert do we qualify as fact checkers? The team that was behind her during the disagreements 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Clive is good at picking up the tight team to get a hit and he usually knows what to do with an artist to make him/her blow up but the problem is that He (just like LA) thinks that his opinion is the only thing that counts and that his artists need to bend over for whatever he says. At this day and age most record labels want puppets and not artists with an opinion. Agreed. Even though i stopped paying attention to her after MD i'm happy that she was able to get thru it all and get some sucess When there is success, there will also be failure. Every artist has their own thing...why not reach a reasonable compromise rather than try to completely void an artists' expression and opinion? Without them, the record execs and labels wouldn't be making a dime! The artist and the label need each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloLove Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l3hd2u As anyone who has read "The Soundtrack of My Life" knows, I think Kelly Clarkson is a tremendous vocal talent and performer. In the book, I provide an in-depth look at our years together during which we shared major multi-platinum success, as well as a few creative differences. I am truly very sorry that she has decided to take issue with what I know to be an accurate depiction of our time together. Before the book was published, I had every fact checked with five independent individuals who were present on a daily basis throughout it all. The chapter as it is written was thoroughly verified by each and every one of them. I stand by the chapter as written in my book. At the same time I wish, and will always wish, Kelly's talent and her career to soar to ever new heights. -Clive Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 When there is success, there will also be failure. Every artist has their own thing...why not reach a reasonable compromise rather than try to completely void an artists' expression and opinion? Without them, the record execs and labels wouldn't be making a dime! The artist and the label need each other. True but people with huge Egos ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 True but people with huge Egos ... I really look forward to the new generation of record label execs. Is there any fresh blood out there? It feels like Clive and LA Reid have been running things for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I really look forward to the new generation of record label execs. Is there any fresh blood out there? It feels like Clive and LA Reid have been running things for too long. Does Jay Z count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishi Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Does Jay Z count? He's younger than them...but only time will tell. I only hear of him signing artists and recognizing talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I really look forward to the new generation of record label execs. Is there any fresh blood out there? It feels like Clive and LA Reid have been running things for too long. Yeah but look a Diddy for example and what he did/does with Bad Boy, it's either his way or out. Dawn Richards and Kalenna had to get out of his lable to release some damn music. It seems like once they get a taste of power they go nuts Does Jay Z count? If we counting animals yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Yeah but look a Diddy for example and what he did/does with Bad Boy, it's either his way or out. Dawn Richards and Kalenna had to get out of his lable to release some damn music. It seems like once they get a taste of power they go nuts If we counting animals yes dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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