Jodienda76 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 This album is literally for us. Period. She said that. She wrote a song about it. Did you even listen to her album?This album is NOT for people who don't know the difference between Indy and signed. Janet is Indy. New movement I know the difference between a great era, and a shitty era. I had no idea that Indy would mean a shitty era.Old movement > New movement 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Jodi is NOT letting ya'll up for air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I know the difference between a great era, and a shitty era. I had no idea that Indy would mean a shitty era.Old movement > New movementand that's what it boils down to. You can scream independent all you want to but there are independent artists on NO budget that have churned out more satisfying eras. The Unbreakable week was just shitty from start to finish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 And now y'all are arguing that expecting more than an album release was too much? These delusions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 If she downsizes to a smaller venue then I'll be happy tbh. I hate arenas - the sound is shit. Stadiums are too impersonal. Royal Albert Hall was fantastic because it was such an intimate venue. I much prefer that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 why has it taken 4 days to come up with that one line?and why does she keep quoting song lyrics to us rather than just talking to us like adults?It's all so impersonal isn't it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I guess the new movement was "wobble." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnt Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I understand Janet doesn't want to be a part of the media that was so hurtful to her in the past. However, she can just do minimal promo with regards to making small appearances, and at the very least releasing singles at a decent time to radio. I play Unbreakable a lot around my younger nieces and nephews and you wouldn't believe how much they are into "Dammn Baby," and say it would be a great single.Janet was fine with the media all through the Number Ones, True You, Up Close and Personal era. Then she got married and she went silent suddenly. Everyone was rooting for her comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I hate to bring up the B word but Janet could learn about PR from Beyoncé. She communicates with her fans through what she releases, videos, photos, etc. while bypassing traditional media and maintaining an air of aloofness and enigma. When was the last time Beyoncé did an interview? She doesn't anymore. She controls how "Beyoncé" is distributed, on her terms and on her schedule. Janet could do the same thing. She doesn't need to be on Good Morning America or Ellen for people to feel her presence in the media. I see some effort on Janet's part to do that, but there are so many opportunities she's missing. Being in the driver's seat now on her own label she really should be designing the entire "Janet" brand in a truly 360 way, taking full of advantage of having broken away from the old model of doing things on a big label. That's all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I wonder did people expect this to be some big high profile release where Janet was supposed to be everywhere. I understand that the promo was/is the polar extreme, but this was always a low-investment project of sorts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) I wonder did people expect this to be some big high profile release where Janet was supposed to be everywhere. I understand that the promo was/is the polar extreme, but this was always a low-investment project of sorts.Probably because that's what we're used to? I'm fine either way. Edited March 11, 2016 by Dammn Bu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Why do y'all keep thinking in extremes? Videos and some promo =/= being an attention whore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jodienda76 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I hate to bring up the B word but Janet could learn about PR from Beyoncé. She communicates with her fans through what she releases, videos, photos, etc. while bypassing traditional media and maintaining an air of aloofness and enigma. When was the last time Beyoncé did an interview? She doesn't anymore. She controls how "Beyoncé" is distributed, on her terms and on her schedule. Janet could do the same thing. She doesn't need to be on Good Morning America or Ellen for people to feel her presence in the media. I see some effort on Janet's part to do that, but there are so many opportunities she's missing. Being in the driver's seat now on her own label she really should be designing the entire "Janet" brand in a truly 360 way, taking full of advantage of having broken away from the old model of doing things on a big label. That's all. THANK YOU!!! This is EXACTLY how I feel. You articulated it so well! I owe you a blow job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illi Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 No one is going to extreme. I just don't think that everyone understands the scope of the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodienda76 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Why do y'all keep thinking in extremes? Videos and some promo =/= being an attention whoreThey are just making poor excuses, and using it to justify the unjustifiable. Janet IS a singer/performer. She releases albums and videos. I don't understan how if she at LEAST did that, it would be considered attention whoring.Janet isn't, and has never been a just an album artist. We're not Janet fans because of her powerhouse vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 No one is going to extreme. I just don't think that everyone understands the scope of the project.so no scope? Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 They are just making poor excuses, and using it to justify the unjustifiable. Janet IS a singer/performer. She releases albums and videos. I don't understan how if she at LEAST did that, it would be considered attention whoring.Janet isn't, and has never been a just an album artist. We're not Janet fans because of her powerhouse vocals.She can't even post a video answering fan questions. No interaction whatsoever. If that's the 'movement' then she can keep. And you can't really have a movement if no one knows about it or what it is. It's just lame overall tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasSad Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Taking into consideration her background I truly understand if she doesn't want to have anything to do with the media. But as many have stated before, she could have easily done a little promo independently in her own terms, while still maintaining her privacy.She is the one who started this whole "Let's keep the Conversation going" -thing. She is the one who promised us a new album, tour and a movement. What movement? What Conversation? It seems she is reluctant to have nearly any "conversation" with the public and it seems to be so very difficult to her. Why did she start the "Conversation" in the first place? She could have easily just released a statement saying she will release an album for the fans and possibly tour: That's it - nothing more, nothing less. And also, she couldn't possibly be so naive to think that other than diehard fans would care without promo?Also, to me it seemed obvious that she didn't even write most of her tweets herself... If you look through them from the Unbreakable era you can see that she always started it with "Hey you guys..." I mean literally almost every tweet/message. I just thought that was a little strange.yeah they could have used the conversation in a cafe for a webisode and sat down and talked about each song and it's meaning. And then said keep the convo going and have people comment on it. Especially the black eagle where she references room #4 a very controversial topic. The movement I guess was doing things your own way and keep your sound original. It's a shame because she could have been the blueprint on doing 0 mainstream media and selling & being successful by controlling and promoting via social media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msboz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hello kiddos!I see Janet cluuuurb can't stop us lol. I hope Janet is ok health wise and I'll leave it at that for now. I'm glad I get to see her this summer again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hello kiddos!I see Janet cluuuurb can't stop us lol. I hope Janet is ok health wise and I'll leave it at that for now. I'm glad I get to see her this summer again. you made it! ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hello kiddos!I see Janet cluuuurb can't stop us lol. I hope Janet is ok health wise and I'll leave it at that for now. I'm glad I get to see her this summer again. you look cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 you look cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msboz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 you look cute Why thank you! And much thanks to my folks for not using protection 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Problem? Why thank you! And much thanks to my folks for not using protection You're welcome . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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