king_c Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 8:43 PM, Bailey said: we have the over produced filler filled album simply titled Janet. But janet. is one of her best albums...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, king_c said: But janet. is one of her best albums...? Its part of a time in her career where things were going very well, so it is listed as such, hindsight is 20/20. The Janet. album is a diamond with flaws 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_c Posted November 21, 2020 Author Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 9:20 PM, Bailey said: Its part of a time in her career where things were going very well, so it is listed as such, hindsight is 20/20. The Janet. album is a diamond with flaws That is true. It's a classic, but it's not perfect like RN or TVR. One thing it definitely suffers from is being too long. Like who in the world fills HALF the album with INTERLUDES?!?! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzo88 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 It doesn’t matter when the album has some of her best singles/songs!!! TTWLG, If, Throb, This Time, etc. are faaaaarrr more creative and inventive than ANYTHING between All For You and Unbreakable. Let’s not exaggerate those flaws now when they r ONLY flaws. Janet. at least was original for Janet and not a tiresome retread like her 2004-2008 output! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Lenzo88 said: It doesn’t matter when the album has some of her best singles/songs!!! TTWLG, If, Throb, This Time, etc. are faaaaarrr more creative and inventive than ANYTHING between All For You and Unbreakable. Let’s not exaggerate those flaws now when they r ONLY flaws. Janet. at least was original for Janet and not a tiresome retread like her 2004-2008 output! great singles do not make a great cohesive album though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzo88 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Bailey said: great singles do not make a great cohesive album though. Neither does having nothing to say!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lenzo88 said: Neither does having nothing to say!!! I think we should confine the discussion to the Janet albums that are highly regarded, in this case Control to AFY, it's a losing proposition to talk about the post SB work, we all know those did not hold up well, with the exception of "Unbreakable" still a very good album and Damita Jo a good album too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzo88 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I think we should confine the discussion to the Janet albums that are highly regarded, in this case Control to AFY, it's a losing proposition to talk about the post SB work, we all know those did not hold up well, with the exception of "Unbreakable" still a very good album and Damita Jo a good album too Well then that excludes Damita Jo since it’s never been acclaimed or highly regarded outside the fanbase. In fact, this unnecessary attachment to this album by the fanbase is STILL staggering. I still find it hilarious that Damita Jo, 20 Y.O. and Discipline are practically interchangeable in terms of quality but Damita Jo was terribly underrated and overshadowed because of the Super Bowl fiasco. All a retread about sex, all a retread about her ex’s, all a retread with the generic love songs, wash, rinse, repeat. Even Jimmy has said Janet came into the studio and didn’t even want to write but told Terry to write something for Damita Jo. Jimmy was shocked and said, “Why are we even making an album then???” His words, not mine. But do u boo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Lenzo88 said: Well then that excludes Damita Jo since it’s never been acclaimed or highly regarded outside the fanbase. In fact, this unnecessary attachment to this album by the fanbase is STILL staggering. I still find it hilarious that Damita Jo, 20 Y.O. and Discipline are practically interchangeable in terms of quality but Damita Jo was terribly underrated and overshadowed because of the Super Bowl fiasco. All a retread about sex, all a retread about her ex’s, all a retread with the generic love songs, wash, rinse, repeat. Even Jimmy has said Janet came into the studio and didn’t even want to write but told Terry to write something for Damita Jo. Jimmy was shocked and said, “Why are we even making an album then???” His words, not mine. But do u boo. Contract Janet and independent Janet are two different artists. The difference here is working for a company with deadlines and being your own boss working on your own time . All things considered Damita Jo holds up against most of her work post SB the best. that's no small feat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Um - ‘Janet’ was bigger worldwide. And if we are talking about sales outside the US, then ‘The Velvet Rope’ was also bigger. Other albums that come to mind are Lauryn hills Miseducation and Toni’s ‘secrets’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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