Aquaria Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Let them tell it..you would think Brit some kind of MUSICAL MESSIAH Brit happens to be benefiting from the massive female pop movement right now. Her singles never did this well even in her prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Brit happens to be benefiting from the massive female pop movement right now. Her singles never did this well even in her prime. Her singles started doing much better in the digital era, because they were more readily available. Before that, if I recall correctly, they often didn't do physical releases of her singles, or they were limited, because they wanted to encourage people to buy her albums. Which is why she was previously more of an albums artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I agree with a lot of what your saying - her contribution hasn't been in the same way as some other artists' has been. But she's still Britney, she's still and icon, and I think some people are to quick to dismiss in certain areas. No, people are quick to give her TOO MUCH praise blinded by her popularity. I dont care if da bitch was as big as Michael Jackson..she STILL has little to NO artistry. Ya'll focus waaaay too much on numbers. There are artists who have sold alot less than her but will get MORE respect than her, musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Her singles started doing much better in the digital era, because they were more readily available. Before that, if I recall correctly, they often didn't do physical releases of her singles, or they were limited, because they wanted to encourage people to buy her albums. Which is why she was previously more of an albums artist. That may be, but I think it also has the do with the musical landscape right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Brit happens to be benefiting from the massive female pop movement right now. Her singles never did this well even in her prime. Mike,Janet,Madonna..you can add the title of "activist" to their names. Britney? Just a POP SINGER! period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No people are quick to give her TOO MUCH praise blinded by her popularity. I dont care if da bitch was as big as Michael Jackson..she STILL has little to NO artistry. Ya'll focus waaaay too much on numbers. There are artists who have sold alot less than her but will get MORE respect than her, musically. I think people are too quick to do things in either direction. There was a time when she was more artistically involved in her stuff, but it's been a while. I think her contributions will be remembered in different ways than the other folks you mentioned because she's a different kind of artist. There are already TONS of artists who get more respect than she does, musically, and with good reason. But people keep counting Britney out of the game, and she stays in. Personally, I just like a lot of her output - what goes on behind the scenes doesn't affect how much I like a song. Seems to be the same for a lot of other people too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 That may be, but I think it also has the do with the musical landscape right now. You just want to give Gaga credit for Brit's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrietta. Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No, people are quick to give her TOO MUCH praise blinded by her popularity. I dont care if da bitch was as big as Michael Jackson..she STILL has little to NO artistry. Ya'll focus waaaay too much on numbers. There are artists who have sold alot less than her but will get MORE respect than her, musically. If they're only counting the now-Britney instead of the Britney we saw during her prime. She had some quality stuff out...and didn't she at least write some of her own songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike,Janet,Madonna..you can add the title of "activist" to their names. Britney? Just a POP SINGER! period Mike was an activist? for world piece and shit You can add Gaga to that list You just want to give Gaga credit for Brit's success. as much as I would love to credit Gaga for everything, K-dolla, Katy and Riri are responsible as well female pop is just massive right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If they're only counting the now-Britney instead of the Britney we saw during her prime. She had some quality stuff out...and didn't she at least write some of her own songs? Yeah, she's co-written a bunch of songs - even some on her last couple of albums. And written a couple of songs on her own as well. Particularly during the In The Zone era, she was getting more into the creative side of things. Then came the breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 as much as I would love to credit Gaga for everything, K-dolla, Katy and Riri are responsible as well female pop is just massive right now Britney's singles were performing a lot better before most of them (minus Rihanna) were even heard from - if you look at the timeline, it really had more to do with digital sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Britney's singles were performing a lot better before most of them (minus Rihanna) were even heard from - if you look at the timeline, it really had more to do with digital sales. Wasn't 3 her 3rd number one in 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think people are too quick to do things in either direction. There was a time when she was more artistically involved in her stuff, but it's been a while. I think her contributions will be remembered in different ways than the other folks you mentioned because she's a different kind of artist. There are already TONS of artists who get more respect than she does, musically, and with good reason. But people keep counting Britney out of the game, and she stays in. Personally, I just like a lot of her output - what goes on behind the scenes doesn't affect how much I like a song. Seems to be the same for a lot of other people too. The reason being because she has the "I dont give a fuck" attitude. She makes it seem more like a chore than her actually being enthused about entertaining. The fact that consumers/buyers let singers FORCE FEED whatever the fuck they want whether it be musically or performancewise is sad. Im appalled that we got to this level of just "accepting" whatever the fuck. Like her Circus tour. Those ppl were silly enough to pay their hard earned money to see a woman who clearly is half assin the whole show and not worried the SLIGHTEST BIT of giving them their monies worth. Its disrespect to her fans and if thats how ya'll wanna be repaid..then keep making the bitch RICH! because she's getting the last laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodienda76 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well...She looks good...The song is halfway decent...I'll pass on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wasn't 3 her 3rd number one in 10 years Yes, but it wasn't the first time she'd had a #1 in 10 years. She started having more singles success when Gimme More went to #3 in '06 and again when Womanizer went #1 in '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes, but it wasn't the first time she'd had a #1 in 10 years. She started having more singles success when Gimme More went to #3 in '06 and again when Womanizer went #1 in '08. Oh true... god point. But still, she debuted at #1 twice in a row, and in short, we have Gaga to thank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 The reason being because she has the "I dont give a fuck" attitude. She makes it seem more like a chore than her actually being enthused about entertaining. The fact that consumers/buyers let singers FORCE FEED whatever the fuck they want whether it be musically or performancewise is sad. Im appalled that we got to this level of just "accepting" whatever the fuck. Like her Circus tour. Those ppl were silly enough to pay their hard earned money to see a woman who clearly is half assin the whole show and not worried the SLIGHTEST BIT of giving them their monies worth. Its disrespect to her fans and if thats how ya'll wanna be repaid..then keep making the bitch RICH! because she's getting the last laugh. Even without giving half a fuck, she still has way more success than most, and that's saying a lot. She doesn't even have to leave her house and her singles shoot to #1. Personally, I loved the Circus tour. So much so that it's the only tour I went to more than one date on. I genuinely enjoyed myself (and so did my friend who came with me to one of the shows, and he's not even a fan), so I don't consider it a waste of my money. It's up to the consumer what they acceptable. Do I wish she'd work harder? Sure. But I'm still loving her music, etc., no matter if she wrote it or of somebody stuck her in a studio and forced her to record it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh true... god point. But still, she debuted at #1 twice in a row, and in short, we have Gaga to thank *Pats you on the head patronizingly.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Even without giving half a fuck, she still has way more success than most, and that's saying a lot. She doesn't even have to leave her house and her singles shoot to #1. Personally, I loved the Circus tour. So much so that it's the only tour I went to more than one date on. I genuinely enjoyed myself (and so did my friend who came with me to one of the shows, and he's not even a fan), so I don't consider it a waste of my money. It's up to the consumer what they acceptable. Do I wish she'd work harder? Sure. But I'm still loving her music, etc., no matter if she wrote it or of somebody stuck her in a studio and forced her to record it. That is EXACTLY MY POINT!!! Ya'll focus too much on numbers and popularity when it comes to her. The fact that thats the ONLY thing you can run to when it comes to her..says ALOT. She has the numbers,she has the popularity...okay,but what else does she have??So in other words are you guys saying popularity is more significant than RESPECT,as an artist? The fact that you know she didn't do her BEST is saying alot. So that doesnt feel like a slap in the face to you? You're content with her half assin' it? I use to enjoy Britney once upon a time but my respect left when hers left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 That is EXACTLY MY POINT!!! Ya'll focus too much on numbers and popularity when it comes to her. The fact that thats the ONLY thing you can run to when it comes to her..says ALOT. She has the numbers,she has the popularity...okay,but what else does she have??So in other words are you guys saying popularity is more significant than RESPECT,as an artist? The fact that you know she didn't do her BEST is saying alot. So that doesnt feel like a slap in the face to you? You're content with her half assin' it? I use to enjoy Britney once upon a time but my respect left when hers left. You're reading too much into stuff. I don't think the numbers are the only thing to run to - I think she makes enjoyable pop music. But people downplay her success and the fact that people clearly enjoy the music, which is why people bring up the numbers. I never said popularity or respect were more important. There are definitely other artists I respect more than Britney, and I like and support them too. I'll defend Britney because I'm a fan, but I'm a fan of a lot of artists for a lot of different reasons. Of course I know she's not doing her best. Anyone who's paying attention can see that. But when I'm listening to her songs, it doesn't come across, so I don't care. Even when I'm watching her on stage, I'm getting enough to satisfy me. It doesn't upset me and I don't think it's up to other people to determine if it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrietta. Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I agree with everything Elixabef has said (minus the seeing her live part...I can't do it) and I'm not a Britney fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You're reading too much into stuff. I don't think the numbers are the only thing to run to - I think she makes enjoyable pop music. But people downplay her success and the fact that people clearly enjoy the music, which is why people bring up the numbers. I never said popularity or respect were more important. There are definitely other artists I respect more than Britney, and I like and support them too. I'll defend Britney because I'm a fan, but I'm a fan of a lot of artists for a lot of different reasons. Of course I know she's not doing her best. Anyone who's paying attention can see that. But when I'm listening to her songs, it doesn't come across, so I don't care. Even when I'm watching her on stage, I'm getting enough to satisfy me. It doesn't upset me and I don't think it's up to other people to determine if it should. Well its funny that this heavy debate started just because I said Britney's legacy wont consist of anything meaningful in other words saying no depth. And the first thing someone shot back with was "SHE'S AN ICON!". Interesting because I never said she wasn't that being used as a defense is telling. I was speaking SOLELY on RESPECT AS AN ARTIST. Artists who stand out to me are artists who are not only icons but HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. But if thats not necessarily what you all need to respect an artists legacy..then thats fine. Everybody has their own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elixabef Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well its funny that this heavy debate started just because I said Britney's legacy wont consist of anything meaningful in other words saying no depth. And the first thing someone shot back with was "SHE'S AN ICON!". Interesting because I never said she wasn't that being used as a defense is telling. I was speaking SOLELY on RESPECT AS AN ARTIST. Artists who stand out to me are artists who are not only icons but HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. But if thats not necessarily what you all need to respect an artists legacy..then thats fine. Everybody has their own opinion. Well, that's been exactly my point - people can be remembered and have legacies for different reasons. I don't think being an icon is something meaningless. Sticking around in this industry for over a decade is no small feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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