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Weren't you against all of this on the original board <_<

No :mellow: I just said the old dusty farts were gonna make it seem "dangerous" because they were gonna say that's just telling the "straight" guys know they're possibly showering with gay/bi guys/girls in basic training :umm: Obama is just making a fool outta himself, and he confirmed my gut feeling about him just using the gay issue to his advantage.
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No :mellow: I just said the old dusty farts were gonna make it seem "dangerous" because they were gonna say that's just telling the "straight" guys know they're possibly showering with gay/bi guys/girls in basic training :umm: Obama is just making a fool outta himself, and he confirmed my gut feeling about him just using the gay issue to his advantage.

His position never changed from day one with any gay issues..

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I think his reasoning for backing down are actually really solid. The court was going to be challenged. If gay people in the military start outing themselves and DODT is not repealed because of being challenged at a higher court, many people are going to be subject to the chance that they might get discharged and lose their benefits. Obama wants it repealed the right way so once the matter is dealt with, its dead and can't be brought back up.

You can say that over and over again and they will never understand it..

The gays got more upset at Obama than the Senators that voted against the bill.. :sigh:

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She has a better chance that flip flopping Obama :w00t:

Sarah Palin appeared on FOX News Sunday yesterday and was asked if the military gay ban should be repealed.

Said Palin: "I don’t think so right now. I’m surprised that the President spent time on that in his State of the Union speech when he spent only about 9 percent of his time in the State of the Union on national security issues. And I say that because there are other things to be worried about right now with the military. I think that kind of on the back burner, is sufficient for now. To put so much time, and effort, and politics into it, unnecessary."

There goes your candidate..

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Sarah Palin appeared on FOX News Sunday yesterday and was asked if the military gay ban should be repealed.

Said Palin: "I don’t think so right now. I’m surprised that the President spent time on that in his State of the Union speech when he spent only about 9 percent of his time in the State of the Union on national security issues. And I say that because there are other things to be worried about right now with the military. I think that kind of on the back burner, is sufficient for now. To put so much time, and effort, and politics into it, unnecessary."

There goes your candidate..

The thing is she never said she was for getting rid of it whereas Obama was soooo for getting rid of it so he could get votes and once it was made easier for him to get rid of it, he became the true coward that he is and asked for it to remain :whistle:
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In Obama's defense, he had to strike the court ruling down because the courts ultimately cannot dictate the actions of the military. It he would have allowed that then it would have set a standard for future issues that the courts should not be involed in. However, as the head of the military, the buck stops with the president. So if he wanted to over turn the ban all he has to do is say so. He doesn't even have to run it by congress. But he wants to get re-elected, so he wants someone else to do it so he can take credit for getting it done, but not take the blame. Basically he's a coward. I love him but he is.

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I'm with Henry on this one, and I'm getting tired of Obama acting like a fucking pussy. He needs to grow some balls and stop talking all that shit already!

Me too. He is a real bitch, and these re-uglicans are walking all over him.

He should have just let McCain win if his agenda is gon a control Washington anyway.

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I haven't been happy with Obama thus far.

But Sarah Palin wouldn't win against him if she were to run. Right now she's in the PERFECT situation: she can spout her nonsense and she's not held responsible for anything. She can't do that if she's actually running for President. As much as people are annoyed with Obama, they also know she's a blathering idiot. The country is not yet ready to go that extreme. And I can't vote for someone who's that ignorant. Hell if the Republicans had regular Republicans running for the Senate in certain states (Delaware and Nevada to name a few), they probably would be having control of the Senate. Hell, Sarah can't even promote her own handpicked candidate in her HOME state to win. A freaking write in is about to win.

My biggest issue with Obama is that he comes across as a spineless Democrat. The minute the Republicans start to whine, he bends over backwards trying to come to some sort of compromise. Newsflash: the Republicans are never going to give you your due. I saw this comment on a blog and I thought it highlighted it perfectly:

Obama 1: 2 + 2 = 4

GOP/Tea Party: Not at all, 2 + 2 = 5 (decibel high, repetition higher)

Obama 2: Actually, I'm open to 2 + 2 = 4.5 (supporters roll eyes; there he goes again)

GOP/Tea Party: No way, 2 + 2 has to be 5 because the Bible and Milton Friedman said so

Obama 3: You know, I and many Serious People believe that 2 + 2 = 4.9. See, we've reached a compromise.

GOP/Tea Party: Socialist! Kenyan muslim! Socialist! (decibel even higher)

Wash, rinse, repeat.

He's coming across as a manager, and not a leader. And what we need now is a leader.

And if he caves in on the tax cuts, God help him.

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I haven't been happy with Obama thus far.

But Sarah Palin wouldn't win against him if she were to run. Right now she's in the PERFECT situation: she can spout her nonsense and she's not held responsible for anything. She can't do that if she's actually running for President. As much as people are annoyed with Obama, they also know she's a blathering idiot. The country is not yet ready to go that extreme. And I can't vote for someone who's that ignorant. Hell if the Republicans had regular Republicans running for the Senate in certain states (Delaware and Nevada to name a few), they probably would be having control of the Senate. Hell, Sarah can't even promote her own handpicked candidate in her HOME state to win. A freaking write in is about to win.

My biggest issue with Obama is that he comes across as a spineless Democrat. The minute the Republicans start to whine, he bends over backwards trying to come to some sort of compromise. Newsflash: the Republicans are never going to give you your due. I saw this comment on a blog and I thought it highlighted it perfectly:

Obama 1: 2 + 2 = 4

GOP/Tea Party: Not at all, 2 + 2 = 5 (decibel high, repetition higher)

Obama 2: Actually, I'm open to 2 + 2 = 4.5 (supporters roll eyes; there he goes again)

GOP/Tea Party: No way, 2 + 2 has to be 5 because the Bible and Milton Friedman said so

Obama 3: You know, I and many Serious People believe that 2 + 2 = 4.9. See, we've reached a compromise.

GOP/Tea Party: Socialist! Kenyan muslim! Socialist! (decibel even higher)

Wash, rinse, repeat.

He's coming across as a manager, and not a leader. And what we need now is a leader.

And if he caves in on the tax cuts, God help him.

You tell them Angelica! Obama is a bitch and I am glad I voted for Hilary! :dance:

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This is gonna bite Obama in the ass if this doesn't get resolved. Serving in the military and actually working on a military base now, I don't think it's a good idea to repeal it. I've always stated that I believe a person should be who they are and gay people can serve if they want to. It's the politics that hinders the repeal of DADT. Honestly, it protects the gays. Trust me, there are gay people who are serving and you know they are gay. It's just that they can't say they are and that other person keeps it a moving.

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What I don't get is people are trying to make it seem that getting rid of it means that ALL the gays and bisexuals are gonna come out. Yeah they'll be some that comes out, which most likely will be the ones that people already knew about anyways, but not everyone brings their sexuality while on duty. And they send out those lil surveys every year asking about if gays should serve and whatnot, and they already stated that majority of the responses were that people don't care as long as the job gets done and most of the ones that had a problem with it are the old people that are a sneeze away from death and retirement. Plus what's the use of letting them join only for the policy to still stand and kick them out later on down the line :umm:

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