King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 The top artist to escape the 90s are: Usher...huge success since 94 Beyonce...massive success since 98 Jay Z...massive success since 95 Missy Elliot...massive success since 96 Mary J Blige...great success since 92 Madonna...moderate chart success since 84 Mariah Carey...moderate success since 90 Robyn...moderate success since 98, but massive if you consider the fact that she owns her label. Gwen Stefani Eve Black Eyed Peas Kinda or Sorta made it but shit happenned Janet Jackson...Great start with "All For You"...But then came the superbowl fall out. Who knows what would have happenned. Still with movie roles, moderately successful singles and a successful tour...She kinda made it out alive. Aaliyah...Off to a good start with a critically blessed album, and movie roles and then... Lil Kim...successful album, and stints on reality shows and in jail kept her name in the press. Erykah Badu Monica Kelly Rowland LL Cool J Couldn't make the transition to the new millennium Michael Jackson...flop albums/trials/death Brandy...flop albums/VH1 reality show guest/false marriage/murder lauryn hill...insanity/one million pregnancies/poorly reviewed concerts Mya Dru Hill Boys2Men Whitney Houston Toni Braxton TLC Prince Who am I forgetting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Anyone who has a true R&B sound got lost. It is THAT simple. Whitney fucked herself over and over , her decline doesn't really have much to do with how the music industry changed , it has alot more to do with her personal struggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Get Eve off your list. As much as I love her, Alanis failed to escape the '90s (commercially). Black Eyed Peas didn't really escape the '90s because they sold out to be big in the new millennium. They're nothing like they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Anyone who has a true R&B sound got lost. It is THAT simple. Whitney fucked herself over and over , her decline doesn't really have much to do with how the music industry changed , it has alot more to do with her personal struggles Usher made it just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Get Eve off your list. As much as I love her, Alanis failed to escape the '90s (commercially). Black Eyed Peas didn't really escape the '90s because they sold out to be big in the new millennium. They're nothing like they used to be. Eve had a hit show and some hit songs. She didn't fall off til the end of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Eve had a hit show and some hit songs. She didn't fall off til the end of the decade. I'm not here for TV shows or "some songs". And she didn't release her debut album until 1999 so it was hardly an escape anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Usher made it just fine. YEah and his music since than has been the same right? i mean let's not act like as if he aded POP into his sound ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Get Eve off your list. As much as I love her, Alanis failed to escape the '90s (commercially). Black Eyed Peas didn't really escape the '90s because they sold out to be big in the new millennium. They're nothing like they used to be. Robyn isn't a escape the 90's case as well . She retired back than cuz she was not into music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnd Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Get Eve off your list. As much as I love her, Alanis failed to escape the '90s (commercially). Black Eyed Peas didn't really escape the '90s because they sold out to be big in the new millennium. They're nothing like they used to be. Agreed. Despite her diverse body of work, she's always be remembered primarily for 'Jagged Little Pill' and its monster success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Agreed. Despite her diverse body of work, she's always be remembered primarily for 'Jagged Little Pill' and its monster success. To be fair she always had a more alternative vibe surrounding her. Jagged has pop perfection tracks but most of her work is not that mainstream I always felt like she wanted to have 1 or 2 big albums and than start to do what she felt like doing. It's like Cyndi Lauper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Robyn isn't a escape the 90's case as well . She retired back than cuz she was not into music If you had huge hits and ruled the 90s, and then you ruled the 00s, then you've escaped the 90s. I don't care if you were in a group in the 90s (Gwen Stefani/Eve/Beyonce/etc.) and then went on to a huge solo career in the 00s, or if you retired in the 90s, and then came back to massive successes in the 00s. I don't care how you did it. I don't care if you changed you sound up. I don't care if you changed you name or gender. I don't care if you sold your soul to Beelzebub. If you escaped the 90s, then you escaped the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 If you had huge hits and ruled the 90s, and then you ruled the 00s, then you've escaped the 90s. I don't care if you were in a group in the 90s (Gwen Stefani/Eve/Beyonce/etc.) and then went on to a huge solo career in the 00s, or if you retired in the 90s, and then came back to massive successes in the 00s. I don't care how you did it. I don't care if you changed you sound up. I don't care if you changed you name or gender. I don't care if you sold your soul to Beelzebub. If you escaped the 90s, then you escaped the 90s. ow you should , or at least shouldda have said it on the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Michael Jackson...flop albums/trials/death Michael Jackson NEVER had a flop album. An album that sells between 8 and 10 million worldwide...off the strength of two singles (and one video in the states) is NOT a flop. No matter how much the media tries to deem it a flop. If anything, Mike would be in the "kinda/sort of but shit happened" category.... Like Janet, if the trial never happened Mike would have been releasing music and topping charts... the media downplayed his success and compared it to "Thriller" but his fanbase and support remained strong and he NEVER flopped. I'ma need for you to make that change Nuk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Michael Jackson NEVER had a flop album. An album that sells between 8 and 10 million worldwide...off the strength of two singles (and one video in the states) is NOT a flop. No matter how much the media tries to deem it a flop. If anything, Mike would be in the "kinda/sort of but shit happened" category.... Like Janet, if the trial never happened Mike would have been releasing music and topping charts... the media downplayed his success and compared it to "Thriller" but his fanbase and support remained strong and he NEVER flopped. I'ma need for you to make that change Nuk... I don't make mistakes... His sound and everything never made it out the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 For starters Usher has NOT been a huge success since 94'...he was a flop when he came out. So we shouldn't count his "false start" which was prior to "My Way" (the way we usually dont count Janet flops prior to control) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Usher made it just fine. I would hope so ..his career didnt really kick off until the 3 remaining years in the 90s ..so he had better made it successfully into the new millenium ...its not much of a feat if you think about it. Michael Jackson NEVER had a flop album. An album that sells between 8 and 10 million worldwide...off the strength of two singles (and one video in the states) is NOT a flop. No matter how much the media tries to deem it a flop. If anything, Mike would be in the "kinda/sort of but shit happened" category.... Like Janet, if the trial never happened Mike would have been releasing music and topping charts... the media downplayed his success and compared it to "Thriller" but his fanbase and support remained strong and he NEVER flopped. I'ma need for you to make that change Nuk... For MJ's standards it was a MAJOR decline ... but yet still successful in its own right. It depends on what angle you look at it from,basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Michael Jackson NEVER had a flop album. An album that sells between 8 and 10 million worldwide...off the strength of two singles (and one video in the states) is NOT a flop. No matter how much the media tries to deem it a flop. If anything, Mike would be in the "kinda/sort of but shit happened" category.... Like Janet, if the trial never happened Mike would have been releasing music and topping charts... the media downplayed his success and compared it to "Thriller" but his fanbase and support remained strong and he NEVER flopped. I'ma need for you to make that change Nuk... Preach it, Big Bro! Even in death they're trying to deny Michael his stats. Invincible was heavily underfunded because of Sony but it sold like crazy and sky-rocketed on the charts with You Rock My World and Butterflies only. It went Double Platinum in LESS than a month WORLDWIDE. Also, many of his own peers commended the album and as you hear, plus you have some of these new boys tryin' to copy that same bid. While failing miserably as fuck Michael's Number Ones album was one of the best-selling greatest hits albums in HISTORY and This is It was no less than platinum around the globe! Damn I'm sick of people not honoring this man when he deserves it so much. He got fucked over at the '88 Grammys and is still getting fucked over now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 For starters Usher has NOT been a huge success since 94'...he was a flop when he came out. So we shouldn't count his "false start" which was prior to "My Way" (the way we usually dont count Janet flops prior to control) "Think of You" was a hit. And Usher was huge in the 90s, and even bigger in the 2000s thus he escaped the 90s. Now go finish your tuna sandwich. The mayo is making your bread soggy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Preach it, Big Bro! Even in death they're trying to deny Michael his stats. Invincible was heavily underfunded because of Sony but it sold like crazy and sky-rocketed on the charts with You Rock My World and Butterflies only. It went Double Platinum in LESS than a month WORLDWIDE. Also, many of his own peers commended the album and as you hear, plus you have some of these new boys tryin' to copy that same bid. While failing miserably as fuck Michael's Number Ones album was one of the best-selling greatest hits albums in HISTORY and This is It was no less than platinum around the globe! Damn I'm sick of people not honoring this man when he deserves it so much. He got fucked over at the '88 Grammys and is still getting fucked over now Repackaging doesn't count. The Beatles sold millions in the new millennium too, but I definately wouldn't say they were artist that defined the 2000s... I give you girls a high-five for trying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 "Think of You" was a hit. And Usher was huge in the 90s, and even bigger in the 2000s thus he escaped the 90s. Now go finish your tuna sandwich. The mayo is making your bread soggy... He was a FLOP. DEAL Usher had one successful album in the 90s..You make it sound like he was tearing it up the whole decade of the 90s. Again...him breaking into the 2000s successfully is not much of an accomplishment considering he wasn't a smash util 97/98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Nuk, did you have vodka for breakfast again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Nuk, did you have vodka for breakfast again? I believe its routine at this point ...obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 He was a FLOP. DEAL Usher had one successful album in the 90s..You make it sound like he was tearing it up the whole decade of the 90s. Again...him breaking into the 2000s successfully is not much of an accomplishment considering he wasn't a smash util 97/98. Look at you making excuses...he was able to be successful in the 90s and carry it on to the 00s. Bottomline. "Think of You" was a gold single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 I believe its routine at this point ...obviously All I did was take a lithium pill... I had no vodka so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 Now hate on Usher again... Usher was introduced on "Call Me a Mack", a song he recorded for the soundtrack album to the 1993 drama-romance film Poetic Justice.[28] On August 30, 1994, LaFace released Usher's self-titled debut album. Sean "P Diddy" Combs produced several of the tracks and co-executive produced the album.[30] Usher peaked at number twenty-five on the Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart and was accompanied by three singles: "Can U Get Wit It", "Think Of You", and "The Many Ways".[32] The album has sold over 500,000 copies, to date.[33] After graduating from high school, Usher continued to develop his skills as a stage performer and laid the groundwork for his second album. He also appeared on their version of "Let's Straighten It Out", a 1995 duet with fellow Atlanta teen recording artist Monica;[34] and on "Dreamin'", from LaFace's 1996 Olympic Games benefit album Rhythm of the Games. He was also featured on "I Swear I'm In Love" off the 1996 Kazaam soundtrack.[35] 1997–2003: My Way and 8701Usher developed a friendship with American record producer, Jermaine Dupri, with whom he co-wrote and produced several tracks for his second album, My Way, released on September 16, 1997. The album's lead single, "You Make Me Wanna", reached number one in the United Kingdom, becoming Usher's first record to be top single; the record led to his popularity reaching in the country.[36][37] It also became Usher's first gold- and platinum-certified single in the United States.[38] The album's second single, "Nice & Slow", peaked in January 1998 at number one on the Billboard Hot 100, giving Usher his first US number-one single.[39] Later in February of the same year, the single was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America; My Way has been certified six-time platinum in the United States.[38] "You Make Me Wanna" won the Best Male R&B/Soul Single at the 1999 Soul Train Music Awards.[40] In the closing months of 1997, Usher embarked on a series of tour engagements including a spot on Puffy's No Way Out tour, dates with Mary J. Blige, and the opening spot on Janet Jackson's The Velvet Rope Tour. Usher's first concert album, Live, was released in 1999, which featured appearances by Lil' Kim, Jagged Edge, Trey Lorenz, Shanice, Twista and Manuel Seal; the album has been certified gold in the United States.[38] Usher made his acting debut on the UPN television series Moesha, which resulted in a recurring role on the series and subsequently his first film role in 1998's The Faculty.[25][33] Usher's extracurricular activities outside of the recording industry gathered momentum over the following year as he was cast in the soap opera, The Bold and the Beautiful.[25][33] He completed two more films, She's All That, and his first starring role in Light It Up.[25][33] He also appeared in the Disney TV movie "Geppetto".[41] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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