Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 YAAAYYY!! ESSAY TIME!!! :clapping: *pulls up a chair with some popcorn* When I look at Janet's videos, or any videos, and determine what's the best, I factor in number of things: The theme of the videosThe concept of the videoThe aesthetic of the videoIs the video a visual extension of the song?Does the choreography match the song?Does the set match the song?Does the wardrobe match the song?How do the colors operate?Symbolism in the video, in respect to the song?There's also the theme of the choreographyThe longevity of the videoAre other artists today emulating the videoThe impact and influence the video has You really have to consider a lot before you try to argue what is or what isn't the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 When I look at Janet's videos, or any videos, and determine what's the best, I factor in number of things: The theme of the videosThe concept of the videoThe aesthetic of the videoIs the video a visual extension of the song?Does the choreography match the song?Does the set match the song?Does the wardrobe match the song?How do the colors operate?Symbolism in the video, in respect to the song?There's also the theme of the choreographyThe longevity of the videoAre other artists today emulating the videoThe impact and influence the video has You really have to consider a lot before you try to argue what is or what isn't the best. ESSAY!!!! :excited: :excited: Btw, you make some great points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Austin, I could give you an indepth commentary on the nothing video, talking about how the harshness of janets wig reflects the sharpness of the film and the restrictive edgy clothing reflect the repressed anger in the first half of the film, and the dark colours reflect the negatives of relationships etc etc - but it doesn't matter, it's about art and entertainment, about visuals and concept, and if had all of that over TTWLG. In fact TA and AFY and SOAG fit the songs just as well as TTWLG, but they are better and they are iconic and very Janet. TTWLG is good but anyone could have done it. Well I would do nothing but cosign because "Nothing" is one of the highlights of Janet's videography. It's right up there with RN, and the fact that it didn't win Video of the Year is highly questionable. TTWLG stands out because it was a different side of Janet that nobody was accustomed to seeing. From big dance numbers and covered from head to toe, to sheding all of that and inviting listeners into the REAL Janet. It's iconic in that it defines what it means to make a change in your visual aesthetic, along with coming in smooth and showing the vulnerability of the artist without the glitter and glam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 ESSAY!!!! :excited: :excited: Btw, you make some great points Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Janet already did the sexy and free thing with LWNDWY which is far more iconic and people sat up and noticed the new Janet look then. TTWLG was iconic because of the sound not the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSimba Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 i see that you are starting to get into more and more alternative R&B/Hip Hop ..that's GREAT. Oh yes, it's a very refreshing sound. Stephon indirectly got me into Janelle last year (and Joi the year before), then I got into Gnarls Barkley after listening to Cee-Lo's last album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 The video doesn't trail too far behind the song in the iconic department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 The video doesn't trail too far behind the song in the iconic department. You are about the only person who thinks that. When I hear people including celebs referencing janets work it's PP RN and IF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I'll post the REAL list later when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 You are about the only person who thinks that. When I hear people including celebs referencing janets work it's PP RN and IF So what accounts for RN being listed on MTV AND VH1's 100 Greatest Videos, Rolling Stone's 10 Great Dancing Videos, winning a VMA for choreography, being listed on BBC's 50 Greatest Dance Crazes, and being imitated by the likes Cheryl Cole, Beyonce, Ciara, Keri Hilson, and a slew of others and "If" and PP not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Spark Notes version of the last 6 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Spark Notes version of the last 6 pages? Nuk posts a list. Several ppl disagree. Nuk asserts himself with threats. Somehow Janet is brought up. We then discuss Janet's videos We discussed briefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Laveaux Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Oh yes, it's a very refreshing sound. Stephon indirectly got me into Janelle last year (and Joi the year before), then I got into Gnarls Barkley after listening to Cee-Lo's last album. im so proud of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Enjoi Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Oh yes, it's a very refreshing sound. Stephon indirectly got me into Janelle last year (and Joi the year before), then I got into Gnarls Barkley after listening to Cee-Lo's last album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSimba Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 I remember you using the Metropolis cover in the promotion thread; that was my very first memory of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 01. Kanye West (See: 'Jesus Walks', 'The New Workout Plan', 'Touch The Sky', 'Love Lockdown', 'Runaway'). 02. Missy Elliott (See: 'Get Ur Freak On', 'One Minute Man', 'Work It', 'Gossip Folks', 'Lose Control'). 03. Lady Gaga (See: 'Poker Face', 'Paparazzi', 'Bad Romance', 'Telephone', 'Judas'). 04. Erykah Badu (See: 'Bag Lady', 'Didn't Cha Know', 'Love Of My Life', 'Honey', 'Window Seat'). 05. The White Stripes (See: 'Fell In Love With a Girl', 'I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself', 'Seven Nation Army', 'The Hardest Button To Button', 'Blue Orchid'). 06. OutKast (See: 'Ms. Jackson', 'So Fresh, So Clean', 'Hey Ya!', 'Roses', 'Prototype'). 07. Beyoncé (See: 'Crazy In Love', 'Me, Myself And I', 'Get Me Bodied', 'Single Ladies', 'Run The World (Girls)'). 08. Ludacris (See: 'Southern Hospitality', 'Move Bitch', 'Saturday (Ooh Ooh!)', 'Stand Up', 'Splash Waterfalls'). 09. P!nk (See: 'There You Go', 'You Make Me Sick', 'Stupid Girls', 'U + Ur Hand', 'So What'). 10. Eminem (See: 'The Real Slim Shady', 'Stan', 'Way I Am', 'Without Me', 'Love The Way You Lie'). Honourable mentions to... Gwen Stefani, Busta Rhymes, Katy Perry, and Rihanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 TTWLG >>>>>> If and PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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