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I never said Rihanna was queen

you get the stanning thing messed up rihanna dont have to sell well and i will still live for her you guy base everything about beyonce on charts, album sells forbes list perfume movies etc but what makes you live for her what does her voice music do to you

you think because someone has their foot in everything makes them grand she a product just like Rihanna is

PROOF? Your First Post in here was about how much beyonce sold so if anything, YOU made it about her stats, charts, accomplishments, etc. Beyonce Is A BRAND. She's Involved in the day to day decision making. Rihanna is a Puppet. Learn the difference between the two. I can talk about many things that beyonce does like her voice, her vocal productions, her arrangements, etc. However this thread wasn't made based off of that.

and we are not talking about Rihanna she's not from this country she started out with no promo nothing she was a nobody when beyonce did her first album she was already someone I'm not taking away from what Beyonce has done but really she was force fed to the public and they had no they choice but to like her

she had her foot in everything to get noticed

Stop Reaching. You Can't Force Anyone To Buy your albums, See Your Movies, Go to your tours etc. She didn't Force Anything. Crazy In Love was already a hit before the video or any promo for DIL began.

she only sold 11 million as a solo artist being honest i though she sold at least 20 million

they way you stan go at it on the internet over her

and her selling 11 million and having the best promo of her being in the girls group I guess that's ok figures but not queen worthy

She's Sold 11.2 Million Albums In The States. She's Sold 25 Million Albums Solo Worldwide. And What Exactly Makes Rihanna Queen Worthy? She has More studio Albums than beyonce yet she's only sold 5 Million.

but her being that successful she should have sold more that what she did that's the point he's getting at

first read the whole thread and stop making assumptions

She Should've Sold More According to Whom? You? Him? Neither one of you matter to Columbia Records so....An Album Selling Nearly 5 million in the states(as well as outselling the previous DC ALbum At the time in the states & Worldwide "Survivor"), and over 11 million copies worldwide is not by any means horrible for any debut solo artist. Let Me Know When Rihanna has an album to do that much.

Nah, the point is that ol' boy called a 4x platinum album with a multi-week #1 single and an extremely popular #3 single...a FLOP.

That makes absolutely no sense, seeing as though the chick you two stan for sold considerably less than that with her last album.

And don't bring up the same tired excuse that this is a different day and age (that people don't buy records the way they used to)...when artists like Taylor Swift, Eminem, Lil' Wayne, and Susan Boyle notch platinum status albums scanned in the first week. People will buy the album if it is worth buying. If they don't...then maybe that should tell you something.

I Never Said Anything Of The Sort. A lot of People Have 1 hit album. 1 hit album doesn't create longevity. and Beyonce's Last Album sold 7 million worldwide and created a global iconic dance craze. She broke records with her album and made history with her videos and singles. Let Me Know when Mr. "unleash the dragon" will do it. Clearly he's been solo since before DC got big and he still hasn't done it. and FYI beyonce's First album>>>>> His.

C'mon man, the first and 2nd Destiny's Child albums were pretty much Beyoncé solo albums

Bey HAD a fan base and was VERY well known before she released her first "proper" solo album.

As Stated You Implied Pretty Much That because DC bey is successful. I love when people get caught up in their own arguments.

POOR RICKI Garbage!

You missed the point. The underlying pretense is elongated success, not short lived.

Thank You. It seems like some of the girls Here need to start practicing what they preach. Brush Up On Those reading comprehension skills.

Sisqo pulled 4 million in sales of his first album. The only person who failed is you.

I'm Not Here for 1-hit Album Wonders. Vanilla Ice Had A Diamond Album and Where is he now? Exactly.

Exactly! Singles are supposed to sell the album. It's considered the #1 form of promotion. If the album doesn't sell, then the single is pointless.

BINGO!

:lmao: :lmao: you noticed that too

in honor of my goat

Dead @ You Shading Yourself and Your Fave.

I don't mean to sound rude, but can you read? Again, I NEVER said being well known guaranteed success. You've completely ignored what I'm saying, and you're only debating about something I never even said it's whatever, I believe I've made my point.

You Implied that being from a successful group was the reason for her success solo. You Didn't Have to Say it right out.

but Rihanna didnt start getting mass appeal until GGGB so you fail

What Does That have to do with your faves 3948431948391489148 #1's Not Selling her albums?

#1s really don't matter when they aren't selling your album.

OKAYE! Correct me if I'm wrong but the purpose of a Single is to promote your overall body of work, correct? So if your single goes #1, but still fails to sell your album then what is the purpose?

HDD dont count digital sales so wait for billboard's count because they do soundscan

and when was the last time you favorite had 2 #1 songs off the same album and we not talking about something in 2003 it's almost 2011

Why Have All The #1's when her songs peaking @ #3, #5 can push her album to 3x Platinum In The states, Something your Fave Has NEVER done with all 5 of her albums. lmfaooo! And If we wanna get Technical Bey Had 5 dance #1's off her last album, not to mention IIWAB, HALO, SINGLE LADIES, & Sweet Dreams Topping the charts in Multiple Countries. Even If I don't Bring Up 2003, it still doesn't Change the fact that Bey Holds the record for the most weeks spent @ #1 in a calendar Year for a female solo artist (17 weeks). And She didn't need 4 #1 Singles To Do it. You Wanna try again Boo? Or are you tired of being dragged by rihanna's Crusty the clown wig?

wow. She didn't have to worry about trying to get in where she fit in. Everyone knew her already. She didn't have to work hard to get a guest spot on a late nite talk show to perform her debut single. She didn't have to bargain to get a spot on a morning radio show to discuss her solo ambitions. She didn't have to worry about budget, she probably didn't have a cap on how much she could spend with promotion because she was SIGNED TO DADDY'S COMPANY. She didn't have to rely on her label head to do the talking and negotiating for her. She didn't have 10% of the headache that a legit brand new artist coming up from nothing has trying to make it big in the biz. C'mon, this isn't hard to understand. Yes she could have flopped, but she would've been set up like a queen to do so. You can't say the same for Gaga & Rihanna.

*DEAD* at your comparison to Paris. Paris was famous for being famous. She didn't have a singing background. She wasn't in THE BEST SELLIN FEMALE GROUP OF ALL TIME. And she actually didn't do that bad considering... 2.3 million worldwide? And a top-20 single in the US, I ain't mad at her "Stars Are Blind" is still hot. So is "Turn You On", "Jealousy", "I Want You"

Umm Right which is why "work It Out" scared the label in which direction the album was going to go. Which is why she funded the album's production out of her own pocket. Please. Columbia Records Didn't believe in beyonce nor her album Until after Crazy In Love Took Off At Radio. And Even Then She still had to fund Most of B'day out of her own pocket. As Stated Just because you are known doesn't gaurantee success. In Fact Columbia was more interested in Kelly More because she was the one with the hit. She was the one with the solo Grammy before Bey. So please. Miss me with that. All the promo and help in the world doesn't garauntee a success.

DEAD @ SuBO Having 2 #1 Albums W/ No HITS AT ALL lmfaoooo!

do all of Beyonce stans get together and come up with the same thing all the time yall sound like the same person oh and you forgot to mention she's on the Forbes list

fact reminds Rihanna has 4 #1 songs this year more than any other artist and they just keep growing you're right I'm going to keep holding on to Rihanna's single chart because it gets you mad :lmao: :lmao:

you wouldn't had to do a dr heckyll and mr hyde impersonation how are you

ALL The More Reason to Laugh At "Loud's" Dismal 1st Week sales. 4 #1's in the same year, yet she barely does 200k in the first week on top of getting chris browned on the charts by the hottest Chick in Depends. yea I'm so Angry. lmfaooo Ch...

Sisqo had 1 sucessful album. and then what? Ch.....

I didn't say anything about how being a lead singer guarantees success I only brought that up to show that Beyonce wasn't an unknown, whereas Gaga and Rihanna were. Being a very public and popular figure in the industry, she was set up for success, whereas Gaga and Rihanna had to work very hard to even get noticed.

By the way, Sisqo did NOT fail. "Incomplete" hit #1, and "The Thong Song" was ridiculously popular. His album went quadruple platinum, and he was at the top of male R&B at the time.

How Was She Set Up for success? lmfaoo Just because people know you before you go solo doesn't gaurantee success either. People Knew paris Hilton, but how did her album do? If anything she had more pressure to be successful based off the simple fact that everyone already thought they knew her, and expected her to be successful.

You Rihanna stans need to just stop. How can you even fix your font to come for Beyonce or any other artist for that matter when your girl is on album #5 and can barely do 200k in the first week? On top of having a fail flop tour, getting outsold by her opening act Ke$ha, who also has a #1 album on the billboard 200. Poor Riherpes. I mean I'd Be Irate too if the opening week sales for my singles were higher than any of the opening week sales for my albums. lmfaoo! Ch... Rihanna is a One dimensional artist who only slays at one thing. SINGLES. Beyonce on the other hand has #1 singles that have made Impact and Spent more weeks at the top then all of rihanna's #1's combined.

Beyonce Has Singles Being ranked among the 500 greatest singles of ALL time>>>>> Rihanna.

Beyonce Has Singles In The Guiness book of World Records.

On top of Tours, #1 Albums, #1 Movies, #1 Fragrances. Ya'll better cling to the only chart that knows rihanna.

Is this _WhatBitch? from JJ.net!?!?!?!? :excited: :excited:

YASSS! And The B!TCH IS BACK!

And I just LOVE the "Beyonce is Destiny's Child" when it's convenient for their argument.

Right! If That's Case then Let's add in the 16.9 Million Albums She Sold With Destiny's Child. Which means she sold 28 Million Albums In America Alone. The Girls Love To Reach with Decapitated Limbs.

C'mon man, the first and 2nd Destiny's Child albums were pretty much Beyoncé solo albums

Bey HAD a fan base and was VERY well known before she released her first "proper" solo album. Rihanna wasn't, all she had was buzz from Jay-Z. Gaga literally had nothing.

Ummm Then explain T-boz, Lefteye, Chilli All Trying to release solo albums and failing? What About Nicole whatever her last name is from PCD, How About Omarion? Sisqo? All Failed Solo and had fanbases with their groups. Being the lead singer of a group doesn't gaurantee a successful solo career.

WERK JANET! SLAY THAT!