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14 minutes ago, Bailey said:

but everything else in that hypothetical is cool? chile  

well, everything else is something she's done before though so we know it's at the very least possible

This era is gonna be Janet's biggest era! It's gonna have 5 #1 hits, 8 top 5 singles (beating her own record for Rhythm Nation) sell over 35 million worldwide and 17 million in the US AND become the most awarded album and highest grossing concert tour of all time.  Doesn't hurt to at least try and speak these things into existence 

14 minutes ago, Bailey said:

the want 5 singles, all top ten hits, 5 million sold first week, 6 music videos, and a sold out Europe leg   How bout a two piece and a biscuit  

we all have desires but "5 million sold first week" 

On 11/22/2020 at 3:02 PM, Jakob said:

We gotta move on at some point... Thank God the vaccins are approaching fast.

Isn't the tested vaccine over 90% effective? I think that's really good. Idk how high and how many tests it needs to be, but the fact they got such high effective rate after less than a year (in the US) is hopeful and quite impressive.

On 11/16/2020 at 9:20 PM, Bailey said:

Its part of a time in her career where things were going very well, so it is listed as such, hindsight is 20/20. The Janet. album is a diamond with flaws  

That is true. It's a classic, but it's not perfect like RN or TVR. One thing it definitely suffers from is being too long. Like who in the world fills HALF the album with INTERLUDES?!?! lol

On 11/8/2020 at 8:43 PM, Bailey said:

we have the over produced filler filled album simply titled Janet.

But janet. is one of her best albums...?

8 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

All the black pop artists in general throughout the decades. None other than Michael, Janet, or Rihanna have really made dents in the UK or have been huge there. That's what i'm talking about

Mariah and Whitney didn't? Idk if they fully count cuz they did R&B later, but both of them started out with mostly pop music.

I know Mariah's Music Box sold more, but that's more of a pop album. I honestly can't think of another female R&B album that reached the heights RN did. janet. the album sold more, but didn't have as many top ten/#1s

I say for females DEFINITELY

Rhythm Nation is a ALBUM. Lonely, RN, Escapade, Miss You Much, The Knowledge, Alright, Love Will Never Do... everytime I listen to this album I feel like:

On 9/23/2020 at 10:26 PM, J. said:

These recent rankings of control over rhythm nation have me feeling a way 

Rhythm Nation is her second best album. Control is #4. 

On 3/23/2020 at 9:28 AM, hotboy06 said:

 

 

That  ladies and gentleman is called IMPACT. INFLUENCE. CHANGING THE MUSICAL LANDSCAPE. PUSHING MUSIC FORWARD.

YES. Changing the actual sound of music itself. I love when artists push the boundaries of music. Janet, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis created a whole new subgenre that influenced the next decade of pop and r&b. Not many artists can say they inspired a whole generation of acts MUSICALLY, and not just because they were a big star.

On 11/7/2020 at 1:45 AM, EphraimAdamz said:

Kanye west doesnt speak for us chile lol

The news showed that Trump did better in every demographic, including black men, black women, latinas, latinos, white women, white men... everyone. There's a reason it took 5 days lol

And no, I'm nowhere near a Trump supporter, I'm just saying what the news showed

On 10/29/2020 at 1:25 PM, JoeJoe said:

Facts! The Velvet Rope shouldn't be no.1 period

Umm... EXCUSE ME?!?! The Velvet Rope is Janet's best album and that's a hill I'm willing to DIE on. Rhythm Nation is #2 of course.

Wow what a thread

And I say no because there was Usher. He was going platinum week after week. Then there was Alicia and Kanye and Beyonce was still on her DIL run. And that's just rnb. DJ is a great album, but it didn't stand out enough or have the same level of "JANET" to it as the previous 5 albums to be the best selling album of the year, especially 2004.

On 10/18/2020 at 3:58 AM, JoeJoe said:

She been doing that for years now already. Her music just doesn't stand the test of time. It's all music made for kids in high sschool

Some of her hits have. Songs like Crazy In Love, Baby Boy, Halo, Single Ladies, Ego, Love On Top, Party are rnb classics. I think the issue is while her albums got better, the individual tracks got worse. Compare her 2000s hits to her 2010s hits and you see everything after 4 just went south. Like Formation, Drunk In Love, Mine, 7/11, Sorry, Hold Up are all fun songs, but who's gonna remember those outside the Beyhive? But let's be honest. All the other R&B artists who started in the early 2000s have faded except for her. So for the early 2000s R&B acts, she's up there amongst if not at the top. And another thing, what other acts from her time are making music that's just as good now? Alicia's not making classic albums anymore. Ashanti hasn't in over a decade. Mario, Chris Brown, Ne Yo... nope. So she fits with the rest of them musically, in that sense. Now put her in a verzuz against them, she wins. Now against 90s artists? I don't think so, but compare her to her own peers and she definitely stands out amongst the top.

Moesha by far. But The Parkers are much funnier.

I hear a few days ago. Slave 4 U was also given to Janet and she declined for obvious reasons. I'm still shocked Pharrell offered a song with the word "Slave" in the title to a black woman. 

20 hours ago, J. said:

There’s no competition

right lmao

On 9/28/2020 at 2:57 AM, JoeJoe said:

Meanwhile his wife Alicia just debuted at no.4 on Billboard 200 albums chart with 62,000 sold, 51,000 pure album sales

Not bad actually. She exceeded the prediction which was 55k units, 40k pure I think. 

On 9/23/2020 at 12:45 AM, JoeJoe said:

I hope no Beyonce album got higher 

Lemonade is 32 and self-titled 83 I think. They always rank her highly on these lists. Not saying she doesn't deserve a spot, but those albums are a bit too high when I could immediately think of half a dozen albums that should be ranked higher... in R&B alone. Not to mention pop and hip hop. I do like how they were more inclusive this time. I just feel like some of it was pandering tbh. Like Blonde and Take Care in the top 100 albums of all time? Yeah, um... okay.

And why doesn't anyone every include Brandy's albums in these lists? Her first 3 albums are R&B classics! Same with Usher. His second 3 albums are R&B classics, Confessions being the most influential R&B album of the century (it's down at #432, didn't expect him to be on here at all tbh).

On 9/22/2020 at 4:33 PM, EphraimAdamz said:

I agree with this, but the reverse.... put out 3-4 singles and music videos over a 9 month span then release the full album. Because of the way streaming algorithms work it's best to do it that way because all the single sales/streams go towards the final album numbers.

This is true. I don't think she really needs to play the streaming game since she's nowhere close to being an artist of the streaming era (mid 2010s onward) but we do live in a singles oriented industry where singles on average perform much better before the album drops than after. I think this is because with streaming, everyone can listen to and already know the song before you release it as an official single. I think there was one or two songs that went #1 before even being officially released as singles in the past couple years, so if she gets a good 2 or 3 singles pre-drop we should be good. Let's pray Janet extends her reign as not only the first black artist with #1 albums in 4 decades, but 5

The Legends Panel made a janet response video lol. I love it!

On 9/19/2020 at 11:19 PM, JoeJoe said:

Yeah a lot of people have been bringing it up that he said it months ago and I just tell them that a lot of us are just now hearing about it. I mean I heard about him saying something but I thought it was a week or 2 earlier, not months. Then for some people although we know he said it a while ago, being able to see the clip of him saying it made it fresh again and made us even more mad. I know it made me more angry when I actually saw it lol.

Yeah he said it back in like May I think? That night ended with a LOT of drama I remember that.

But yeah he was dragged rightfully. It is kinda said Alicia was brought into it, cuz she literally did nothing wrong lmao, but she's achieved so much I'm sure she wasn't bothered by people's comments about her tbh

Overrated

FutureSex/LoveSounds- Justin Timberlake

FAME - Lady Gaga

20/20 Vision - Justin Timberlake

Underrated

Here I Stand - Usher

Afrodasiac - Brandy

All For You - Janet

12 minutes ago, Aquaria said:

I'm gonna stop you there.  

To mostly everyone I know IRL and social media (like, personal social media) Beyoncé is THE star. She is universally acknowledged to be in a different league than any other contemporary artist and the closest we have to someone of MJ or Whitney's caliber. 

Really? I'm one of the only Beyhive I know irl. Everyone I know treats her like A star, but not THE star. We just don't have one right now. 

And the thing about MJ and Whitney is that they influenced every single artist after them. We have to go back to artists who were fully developed when Bey first went solo to find artists like that.

And since we're here, I think it's accurate to say her self-titled album did have impact with increasing surprise drops and visual albums. But even then, that seems about it. She doesn't really have much influence musically, she seems more like a celebrity at this point. She has several classic songs under her belt tho. Anyone else feel this way? I think it's been biting her in the butt recently with stadium shows not sold out, both her last 2 projects underperforming/flopping... she's gonna have to rebrand herself cuz the Hive, we getting a bit weak lol