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I'm a huge fan of hers, and I think she is in fact one of the greatest acts of her generation. But I feel like there's been this industry agenda to force her onto this level with acts like Whitney and MJ and it just doesn't seem organic. Like people in real life never actually acknowledge her as someone as popular as they ever were.

I know she's been caught stealing in music on just about every album. Then she's been caught stealing choreography for music videos and tv and tour performances from YouTube videos and famous theatre productions. (Don't steal so obviously, at least be smart with it lmao). And then when she started saying she transitioned to an "albums artist" her sales took a pretty steep turn south. She's obviously a huge name, but it's just weird how the industry pushes her as this larger than life celebrity when during her peaks acts like Britney, Eminem, Usher, Justin, Ashanti, Alicia were outselling her or selling just as much as her. Then as she continued as a lot of those acts stayed just as strong as her, and newer acts like Drake, Adele (she's special but she does fit the bill), Justin, have been outdoing her in just about every metric too.

I'm not saying she's an industry plant or a fully manufactured artist, I just think at least 50% of the hype surrounding her name is... fake. Idk if fake is the right term, but you get it. Like the industry is telling us her music is revolutionary and she's this once in a lifetime artist and has reached heights no one else has when her own peers have outdone her, not to mention older acts like Tina, MJ, Janet, Whitney, Madonna, Prince... it just feels like it's being crammed down our throats instead of the public and us common people ourselves hyping her.

And before you say it's not mature enough lyrics or whatever... look at how every single one of his relationships end... with him cheating. So he's singing about what he deals with in real life. That's what we want an artist to do, so props to him.

 It's a smash! People are gonna be upset it doesn't sound exactly like Confessions ad he didn't go the Maxwell or D'Angelo route with his music... so what? He's damned if he does damned if he doesn't. Remember he's a POP star at the end of the day, not some neo-soul non-radio artist lmao.

But everyone seems to love the song and it's doing pretty well for an artist almost 30 years into his career. I love it.

His songs always start slow and gain traction over time so hopefully he sends this to radio and it picks up cuz I haven't had one of his singles on repeat like THIS since Good Kisser.

On 6/20/2020 at 9:10 PM, Lenzo88 said:

I don’t like it either!!! For a black pride song during the greatest worldwide civil rights movement in history....very basic and kinda flat!!! Damn, might as well have re-released Formation with some new remixes and visuals aka Formation 2020!!!

Not Formation 2020 

It's okay. Not that it was bad it's just... okay lol

On 5/10/2020 at 2:35 AM, jinthahouse said:

Lol beyonce could definitely do this for the formation tour with that big ass screen 

lmao it's funn but so true. that screen was like 60 feet tall 

On 5/23/2020 at 4:45 PM, Bailey said:

"Everybody for this next song, I want you all to turn on your high beams......remember that special night"   

6 hours ago, Jakob said:

Me too

We NEED to make it happen! Janet will most likely get that #1 regardless, but if we can start a campaign for all fans to buy 2 copies we will succeed 100%.

Oh yes we should. I know right before she releases Black Diamond it would be nice to get it trending on twitter. Maybe some of the stan accounts could help us out. I know for the Beyhive with Black Is King we got "Beyonce is coming" trending. We could get her name trending and encourage everyone to buy 2 copies at the same time. I'll def be apart of it

1 hour ago, Lenzo88 said:

“Black Diamond” NEEDS to b her 8th #1 and make that 5 consecutive decades (80s-2020s)

For real. I'd be so excited for her!

On 7/25/2020 at 10:25 PM, J. said:

Unbreakable is somewhere between 300k and 400k, so no.

Thanks, I had no clue where it was lol. The fact that she has #1 albums in 4 decades...just amazing. TRUE longevity there 

On 4/15/2019 at 8:20 AM, BlackCat1989 said:

He is in there with Missy, TLC, and Busta when it comes to not getting that Vanguard award. He should have recieved that over a decade ago... easily. And I have never seen a tribute to him. I know us Janet fans go on about her not getting the praise she deserves. But when you look at some of these other artists. They don't get half the praise Janet has gotten. I remember a couple years back. Usher fans were trying to get MTV to do a Icon special for him. The way they did for Janet. It fell on death ears. 

I know on paper he's up there with all the other legends. He's even the second most awarded male R&B act ever, MJ is #1 of course. He inspired every R&B artist since the mid 2000s, he's outlasted all his peers (Monica, Brandy, and Aaliyah) and is still very relevant, but he still feels disrespected for some reason. I know the Vanguard Award is usually given after artist have a good year tho. He really should have won it a good 10 maybe 15 years ago, but IDK why lol. He did get the BET Honors and earlier this year at the Grammys dinner they just started clapping for him and cheering out of nowhere just cuz someone said he was one of the greatest entertainers ever, so people recognize his impact. IDK where the disconnect is. Maybe it's just the fact that he's almost 30 years into his career and no one's on top forever. He should get that award tho Maybe he will next year? Fans are very excited for a new album he's been teasing for about 3 years now so they might give it to him next year. If not, I'm not worried for him. Everyone knows he's a legend so does it really matter?

On 4/14/2019 at 11:17 AM, Rock & Roll Hall of Game said:

I don’t care

No one is here for Usher. He’s a classic example of “evolve your music or be eaten”... 

Usher decided to keep releasing shit music year after year and not change. He, like every R&B star from the 90s, became irrelevant 

K thanks

Um, he's still very relevant lol

And he did evolve, he had to. He continued to release R&B and it went well, but to continue that high level of success where he was before he had to adapt to the new tasteless styles of trap and pop/EDM. It worked pretty well. He had two more #1s with Love in this club and OMG. Had more #1 albums, the URX Tour sold out a lot of the arenas and stadiums without and album and he's still well respected by his peers and music fans everywhere. Do you know how many people still talk about him and compare artists like Chris Brown, Trey Songz, Weeknd, Bruno Mars to him? He worked up to the point to be the standard for all the new R&B and pop male artists for the lat 10 to 15 years. That's nothing to sneeze about. 

I know a lot of people hated how he released some EDM singles, but he only did like 6 or 7 EMD songs in his whole career, and across a 3 year period (2010-12). His career spans 28 years so far (1993-2020) so I'd say he's doing very well. His song with Summer Walker just went platinum and like 2 years ago he did the R&B Fridays Tour, they upgraded to stadiums for him and he sold out 94% of the tickets. He's fine lol. I can't think of another male R&B artist from the 90s in as good a position as he is. If we're being honest, none of the newer guys who debuted after him reached his level. Kinda sad fact, but it's a testament to his longevity and successful career.  

In 2001, Janet received the MTV ICON Award 

At the MTV Video Music Awards in 1990, Janet made history when she became the first black woman to win the Video Vanguard Award and the youngest artist at 23 years old.

Janet Jackson became the first female artist to sweep an award show at the 1990 Billboard Music Awards when she won 8 awards in one night. The awards she took home are

• Top Pop Album (Rhythm Nation 1814)
• Top R&B Album (Rhythm Nation 1814) 
• Top R&B Singles Artist of the Year 
• Top R&B Artist of the Year 
• Top Selling R&B Albums Artist of the Year
• Top Hot Dance Singles Artist of the Year 
• Top Dance Club Play Artist of the Year 
• Top Dance Artist  
• Top Hot 100 Singles Artist of the Year

That's right, they had to use a whole TABLE for her 

Janet Jackson is the ultimate hit machine and has been dubbed a Queen of Pop by music fans all around the world. With such a trailblazing, impactful, and influential career, I feel it's time to take the appreciation a step further and have a thread devoted to Janet's accomplishments and achievements. This includes sales, charts, accolades, awards, and recognition from newer artists (influence). She has won countless awards, sold millions upon millions, smashed records and has reached an unmatched level of success and influence.  

In 2018, Janet Jackson became the first artist to receive the IMPACT AWARDS at the 2018 Radio Disney Music Awards

That same year she also won the Icon Award at the Billboard Music Awards 

This is from back in 2015. Unbreakable could be eligible for gold now, I know first week sales was 109k so it wouldn't surprise me. IDK where this is from, but it's been floating around for a few years and seems like it could very well be accurate