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Madonna is the undisputed queen of reinvention.

And this thread is ridiculous.

it is really ridiculous... lol

Donna Summer - never thought much of her until someone made me listen to her old albums and realized how important she has been to music and female artists.

and how versatile her voice is. and how amazing she is live

Kylie - Hated her in her 'happy' days (really hated her)... Then someone tricked us (and 3 other Kylie haters) to see her Fever tour in Rotterdam... We all left as fans

Adele - never liked her first album

both will do poorly

Someone has to safe it tho....

Another one of the girls bites the dust...

FINAL

3 1 Garth Brooks PEARL 141566 -26% BLAME IT ON ALL MY ROOTS

1 2 ONE DIRECTION SYCO / COLUMBIA 109843 -79% MINUIT SOUVENIRS

6 3 Les Robertson EMI NASHVILLE 109311 -11% CANARD LES SALLES: ROBERTSON FAMILLE

4 4 Kelly Clarkson RCA 109098 -18% Emballés en rouge

- 5 BRITNEY SPEARS RCA 108461 - Britney Jean

Uk #34 ➤ 12.959 ex

France #21 ➤ 12.589 ex

Japan #17 ➤ 8417 ex

Who's next?

Shakira is releasing a new album and so is Kylie

It doesn't bode well

she betta get that ass overseas and start promoting

She has been promoting in the UK almost as much as in the US

The album dropped 24 - 32 there last week... 1 - 8 - 24 - 32

ARTPOP may not be in the top 10 this week, it went back to regular prices and could sell up to 40k this week.

Well, at least it stayed top 10 for a few weeks... The album only sold a little in the US and Canada

The chart run in most of the other countries is pretty shocking

I mean Netherlands 4 - 29 - 50 - 68

As usual, receipts: http://www.billboard...board-200-chart

Lady Gaga's "ARTPOP" moves up one position to No. 7 with 116,000 -- and a 154% gain. The diva experiences a bump in sales thanks to sale pricing, and exposure gleaned from her Thanksgiving night ABC TV special, "Lady Gaga & the Muppets' Holiday Spectacular." The album went for $4.99 at Amazon MP3, $6.99 at Walmart and $7 at Target.

aah, the Black friday one..

Thought you were talking about this wek

yes she's becoming quite the performer. Does anybody know how airplay is doing for "Do What U Want"? and I somebody said her album is supposed to sell over 100,000 this week I think

How the hell can it sell over 100.000?

It's #33 on Itunes

or maybe the $3.99 deal on Amazon is helping shift the album in bucket loads...

125k is "selling records"?

I thought her name had more pull.

Circus 505,000

Femme Fatale 276,000

Britney Jean 115,000

Eh.. That's kinda high

Really?

In the holiday season?

Game tries to make it sound like "old people are crazy and out of touch". But it can't just be a generational thing because as a young person I've gone back as far as the 1940's and have collected songs that I enjoy. Those songs came out before I was born and a lot of it is more memorable than the music out today. I sure didn't grow up during the 40's/50's/60's//70s but it sure does sound better.

Our peers aren't even buying today's music so where does that leave us???

in the late 70's and 80's every star and every group wanted to be different from the other... They wanted to stand out so there was a lot (and a lot) of diversity

Even in the 70's when it was all dance, the big stars tried different stuff, creating new styles and genres and this continued into the 80's

Just put on a Donna Summer album from the 70's... She did 2 a year and every album had a totally different concept, sound and style... There is not one song of all her songs that sound anything similar to a previous one...

The artists was respected for their talent... and not for their looks

Now... I think a record company can't loose money, and they need hits so they go safe and copy everything that's popular.. Been like this for years... Music has gotten so boring

They don't realize that all they do is create singles artists.... and 85% fail during 'live' shows... or they can't sing, or they can't carry a show cause they have zero stage presence or they are so pretentious that all you see is spectacle with no substance... fun for a bit but get's boring so fast

It's the old school artists that still 'bring' it... he ones that have been around for decades and brought up old school

a lot of factors... age being #1... The youths seems to stick with people who are younger bc they can relate to them... It's not easy relating to someone who is 20+ your age... no matter what age you are

shitty music is a top reason as well as trying to fit in.

saying that all the music on radio sounds the same makes your sound like a father or grandfather than a DJ

Btw.. Gaga is flopping so bad example... Same with Spears.. MC's 2008 album sold a lot because of TEOM's sales...

Youth stick to them cause that's all they get fed

When i was a teen there were no age rules and i loved artists/groups for their music.... and artists for their music and image, but age had no influence whatsoever.... Everyone was played

If the press and radio don't care for you, you're done

If they love you or get payed enough or if they need those to make the record companies some money they will praise you till it becomes so obvious it has to turn around at some point (Gaga)

But i always believed that no matter who... if you release an album that is so good and different to everything out there, you WIll have a hit and you will find your way back to the top

We're talking about this age thing, but Cher is enjoying her biggest album ever at the age of what... 112?

It doesn't start until next month. Ticket sales are actually really strong.

Think ticket sales will be strong in the first few weeks.. with all the fans buying them.. then it will start to go slower and slower and at one point it will be the tourists buying the tickets on location

Even if it's gonna be a spectacular, people know Britney can't sing live and will probably mime her way through the set eventho they say she won't.

If the show isn't live there just isn't a great atmosphere

well RB only holds 3000 people so 7 shows would be like 1 arena show In New York...

She Tweets: She is now celebrating 7 sold out shows and 1.2 million albums sold WW.... Although the 1.2M is shipped albums and not soldIt's completely impossible to have sold 600K in it's second week with all the drops in the charts WW

+ she now has 2 albums in the TOP 5 biggest second week drops...

4/21/2012 – Madonna – MDNA – 86.70% – From 359,000 to 48,000 at No.8

6/18/2011 – Lady Gaga – Born This Way – 84.28% – From 1.11 million to 174,000 at No. 1

12/3/2011 – Mac Miller – Blue Slide Park – 82.54% – From 144,000 to 25,000 at No. 24

11/26/2013 - Lady Gaga - ARTPOP - 82% From 259,000 to 46,000 at No. 8

7/13/2013 – Kanye West – Yeezus – 80.27% – From 327,000 to 65,000 at No. 3

Second week Sales in her second biggest market - The UK (the only other country Artpop hit 1)

Albums:

1 Robbie Williams 108,622

2 Eminem 40,849

3 Jake Bugg 39,714

4 Celine Dion 28,118

5 Elvis Presley 26,807

6 JLS 24,173

7 Andre Rieu 21,905

8 Little Mix 21,060

9 Lady Gaga 15,948 (out of the top 20 in this weeks midweeks)

10 James Arthur 15,532

Everyone wants to be a mogul right now. It great the one want to be more in control of his/her career, but I don't find to cool that some artists seem to be taking opportunities of others.

But like I said, with the music industry in as bad shape as it is, no one really wants to take risks anymore.

There was a documentary just a week ago about how dance music started and some star of the 80`s (can't remember who tho) said... Back in the 70's and 80's everyone wanted to be different from others... No one wanted to do something that others were doing and that's why there was so much diversity and groundbreaking stuff then.

Now everyone is trying to sound the same

It might be a record label thing that they want this for their artists as they just need those hits

WERK them new lips and hips, Gaga! I see resemblance of a young Donatella here!

2000 is all about attention, label decisions and writers/producers. You can hardly think about classic mainstream albums from this decade. Almost impossible to get albums like TVR/ROL/Butterfly these days.

Think about it, the 2000's mainstream music sounds a lot more dated than the one from 80/90's.

it's true...

It's not about music anymore

The only 'new' style is Electroclash which is a mix of dance/new wave and pop

before you had to be great to become great... Now you just have to look great

60's/70's/80's/90's all have what people consider "golden eras" of music. A new genre seemed to be introduced each decade

60's - 70's Rock n Roll & Country Music

70's - 80's Funk, Dance & Disco

80's - 90's Hip-Hop & Heavy Metal /New Wave / Electro

90's - 2000's RnB & Rap Music/ Eurodance

Tons of sub genres are out there but what would you consider the 2000's and 2010's to be known for ten to twenty years from now?

fixed

I've read on a ablog that these are fake. That most of them are demos from previous albums or something like that.

It don't really matter tho, Damita Jean is gonna be a mess

Britney tweeted though the she hopes we love the leaks... and enjoy eventho they were not supposed to leak...

Handled great

it was only shocking because of her post-stroke dancing.....

I think we get too caught up in whether a project debuts at #1 or not signifying it being "successful".

I didn't buy the album, so I obviously don't care one way or the other... *Shrugs*

I think 98% of the buyers of this albums were her 'Monsters' and just a few casuals bought this album...

So 4 years into her career she's making music for her fans only...

Feel kinda bad for her.. Sure she thought she had more Monsters then the few Hundred thousand over the world...

Most monsters bought multiple copies, so if every other monster bought only 2 (and we know some bought 10 and probably more), she has about 300K to 350K fans left around the world...

That's not gonna get better with her next album...

She got SNL's highest ratings this season

I'm not using that face because I'm shocked.. I'm using it bc people just won't let her be great musically

http://music-mix.ew....gs-artpop-bump/

Why isn't Lady Gaga's 'ARTPOP' getting a sales boost from her 'SNL' appearance?

On Saturday night, Lady Gaga joined the relatively exclusive club of people who have served as both the host and musical guest in a single episode of Saturday Night Live.

Critically, she was a relative success, delivering a steady-if-unremarkable stream of sketch moments and sounding mostly excellent on the oft-tricky SNL music stage. The show was rewarded with its highest ratings of the season, and the estimated audience of between eight and nine million viewers is the highest since Justin Timberlake’s double-down episode back in March.

And yet Gaga’s new album ARTPOP is only third on iTunes’ download chart, trailing both Eminem and One Direction. And the two singles she performed on Saturday’s show are languishing on the singles chart—the R. Kelly-assisted “Do What U Want” sits outside the top 10 at 14, and “Gypsy” is all the way down at 72.

Under normal circumstances, an appearance on SNL tends to provide a healthy boost to an artist, especially one with a brand new album: Macklemore & Ryan Lewis saw their record sales jump up 83% in the week following their SNL performance earlier this year, Of Monsters & Men experienced a 74% increase, and Alabama Shakes rocketed from the 40s into the top 10 on the Billboard 200.

So where’s Gaga’s boost? It’s the latest in a series of negative developments surrounding the sales of ARTPOP. Industry projections initially had Gaga’s latest moving a little more than 300,000 units in its opening week, though that projection is now down to between 220,000 and 260,000. That would put her well off the pace of her last album Born This Way, which shifted over a million copies in its opening frame in 2011. (Granted, that’s a bit of an inflated number since it included copies of the album sold for 99 cents through an Amazon promotion — a move that forced Billboard to change its rules about what counts as an album sale.)

But even if you take the estimated 350,000 to 400,000 Amazon copies out of the equation, Gaga’s ARTPOP will still be doing, at most, half of Born This Way‘s opening. (Gaga may be going for another Amazon-related gambit: ARTPOP is currently the top-selling album in their MP3 store, likely because it’s currently available for $5.99.)

Not only that, but even if she clears 250,000 copies this week, Gaga would still be squarely behind the first-week sales of Miley Cyrus’ Bangerz and Katy Perry’s Prism, the other two pop-diva albums ARTPOP has been battle with over airtime and attention this fall.

So why is the pop market rejecting Gaga? Is it fatigue over her ever-shifting personae and outfits? Or are the songs on ARTPOP simply not up to snuff?

I feel like BTW came off the heels of an extremely successful album and tour. Gaga was the #1 star at that time. The BTW promotion campaign was aggressive and excessive, she was very eccentric too. The album sold fine, but it did turn some people off and she was overexposed.

ARTPOP has been much more about the music and not so in-your-face. Gaga is much more tame this time around....so far.

BTW wasn't the big success though.. especially in the rest of the world where she only had 1 hit single and the others were kinda non entities

They should have known better... The signs were all there that Gaga wasn't the big pop star anymore she was the year before...

And she's all but tame over here.. She's over the top crazy and in a very disturbing way imo

I just thought there were a lot more 'monsters' out there especially in the US... You know most monsters bought multiple copies as well, some even up to 30... the 'golden ticket' that's in 10 of the cd's was another stunt to sell more cd's to one person...

It's not the best marketing imo... Yes you will sell more with this album, but the next album will have an even bigger drop cause more of the monsters now, more will go and join the Miley experience and even Katy's...

+ the second week drop will be bigger too...

Anyway... I feel kinda bad for her cause i do like her in a way... She just makes it very difficult though

Ouch! 25 million dollar budget. And it only sold 260k? It's only made the company 3.1 million so far (assuming it's 12$/album)

She has a lot of work to do

If it's sold for 12 dollars it's not what the record company's make...

Sold for $12 normally is Wholesale $5.5

but as it already was on sale for 5.99 on some places wholesale probably is around $4

Her total WW sales in it's first week will be around 500K ?

I liked the "Do What U Want" performance. He took her and did what he wanted with her body. Some of y'all just didn't understand what was going on but I did

That doesn't explain all the post-stroke moves Gaga did 90% of the song