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and did this heffa say "I got the kinda pussy to keep you out the streets"?????? chile....I just can't

and the song is ASS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yteL9kWaJ2A

you've stated your opinion already, which is what I asked for everyone in the thread to do, whether or not they share the same views...clearly, this is not a thread where everyone will share the same opinion...my only request was to keep my thread drama free, state your opinion, and respect the opinion of others even if it is in disagreement with yours

well I never expected to get a definite answer...it was really just a way to find out why you may or may not beleive he is...I think there are artists who most see as clear cut musical geniuses, then there are artists that are more up in the air

everyone will (technically) come up short....that's what happens when you have "Thriller" fame

you obviously can't read and comprehend...I made the thread...I have stated in many different posts that all opinions are welcomed...i've stated that I don't think he is, but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear the opinions of those who do...don't bring this bullshit into my thread...everyone has their minds made up, you included...you feel like he is, good for you, that's your opinion...if you don't like an opposing opinion then don't come in a thread where there are different opinions

so you don't beleive that people have a legitimate reason to beleive his music dumbed down after he stopped working with Quincy Jones?

so why did it take you so damn long to answer that question?

but we are not talking about icing on the cake...

exactly...I don't know where his comprehension skills went...I asked a simple question, do you need a visual to determine musical genius?

Now how the FUCK did you come to that conclusion????

again, that is not what I said...there is a difference between hearing a song and being able to dance to it while creating your own visual, than needing a visual to determine the greatness of the music...if you hear Billie Jean, you want to Moon Walk, however, you should be able to appreciate the music as is if you consider it to be so genius

your mental and visual is not the same a music video or a performance...there are songs I think are genius that have no video and no performances to go along with it...that fact does not make the material less or more genius...if you have a connection to a song mental response is there...what does that have to do with a stage show or a video? you said in MJ's case his musical genius has to do with everything from his video's to his shows...that implies that those things are necessary to determine the genius of his material

NO, you set your own views...we are not talking about many things...we are not talking anything other than music...I don't care if you think he was a genius on stage, I don't care if you think he was a genius in a video...do you need a visual to determine the genius of his musical material? can you just sit and and listen to s song of his that he has not performed and that he does not have a video for and say it's genius?

what does it not being 100 years ago have to do with anything? you are the only one who has that criteria...again I ask, do you need a visual to determine the genius of musical material?

so you can't hear a song on the radio and take it as is, you require a visual to determine the genius of the material?

what I said had nothing to do with musical genius...that was more in response to was artiskey said about him not recording or releasing music

my biggest issue with MJ is what I feel to be his lack of growth (more conceptually than anything) and experimentation...truly, both on stage and on his albums...so I fully agree with you about him being resistance to change...I feel like that stunted his growth

so a person must encompass all those things to be considered a musical genius? you can't consider them a genius without seeing them on stage or in a video?

to be honest, I think MJ lost confidence in his ability to produce great music somewhere along the road...I don't know what exactly sparked that, but I do beleive that he did...compound that with all his personal crisis....lawd hammercy

STOP! what you will not do is come in my thread acting like you don't know what people mean when they use the word genius...don't start that "genius" is not a power word shit in here...I'ss let it slide this time cuz I heard you have a big dick....next time you post some shit like that, you gonna have to post some pics

I think I get what you are saying...everyone can relate to a Heal The World, you're talking about personal vulnerability...like a TVR type situation...or am I completely wrong? lol

that equates musical genius? (that's a serious question since I don't feel like i've gotten a full opinion from you about what make him a musical genius...i'm certain you don't feel it's only what you typed and that you have other reasons)

as the creator of this thread, I must once again emphasize, this not a thread about anything other than music...this is not about dancing, this is not about videos....just music...all those others things come after the music

boy I live in NYC...I can go on any corner and find you people who will kill(bad use of words lol) MJ beatboxing...don't do it...if you gonna talk genius, come with something better than that video