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  1. i have been a fan since the pleasure principle. i have given J years and years on my knees on worship..at this age i can not, and will not, fault this chick for giving 1000+ fucks abought the grammys. the superbowl had nothing to do with grammys, other then the fact that at the time they where on the same network. but this woman has to apologize for some shit that had absolutely nothing do do with you, fishy!

    janet could accept a grammy  and say "fuck her right in the pussy".

    yeah... what she said!

    bitch fuck a grammy..im happy, and she is clearly happy trying to get to the great forever.

     

     

    All of this!!!!! If Janet was worried about the Grammy's she would have met the deadline for her album release back in 2015. She wasn't trying to get em guys...

  2. Have you read the moms? I hear Bunny & Tommy's are way better/informative ( I feel like I heard too that the moms had more info on Janet & James)

    I refuse to read Mama D's book. I don't want to hear anymore of her excuses. She went from one abuser man to another. Her second husband also abused her younger 5 kids. By then I bet them kids were like wild animals. One of the baby mamas said that it ain't a Debarge house unless there was a hole in the wall. And both Babyface and Jermiane said that they were ghetto. Folks I've talked to who have read the book say she glosses over a lot of stuff. Which isn't surprising. I'd expect she would.

  3. Muthaphuckin Bestseller chille lol

    It's a shame the DeBarges spend so much time pluggin imaginary children and not their tell all books, Im seriously interested in reading these lol

    Like someone said on Twitter "All of these real Debarge children out here but they focusing on the imagery one" Both Bunny's and Tommy's books were sad as hell tho.

  4. @jarrylf I just watched GUHH. And like I thought they give some Bullshit ass answer. JRinvestagates ain't shit. He was promoting his appearance on the show a few weeks ago on Instagram. So I left a comment asking him did he know about James's brother Young Debarge saying that the secret daughter name was Renee back in 2005. Because that's where he got that info from he ain't fooling nobody. He told me to keep watching the show to see what happens then deleted my comment.

    I lol when Kristinia said oh this must be true because she doesn't want to meet with me. Girl Bye! They are carrying this mess on to next season. 

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  5. You literally cant compare the Debarges drug problem to the Jacksons, itd be practically hilarious if it weren't such a sad thing but you're comparing a pain pill prescription that didnt even come into effect for Michael until the 90s and assumptions about Randy & Tito to 10 siblings with serious narcotic problems, and not just using, selling too. Just about every DeBarge brother (El included) has done time for not only possession but for fucking selling.....seriously the Jacksons cant compare at ALL. NOTHING about the dysfunction of the Jacksons are comparable 

    And the issue then becomes, simply Janet likely at that point wouldnt want to be a mom (based ln talk of hoe motivated  she was in 85 to start anew), and it'd be no real hiding it from the Debarges, the mother has gotten custody of many of her 64 (as of 2009) grandchildren, with her ways and manipulation she probably would've fought for the rights to her Jackson grandaughter she could exploit for money, or exploit the situation for money, hell they exploit the rumor for money. In my opinion Janets best bet if she did get pregnant by him at that time would've been to have it aborted based on all the information for what her options were.

    Fans dishonor Janet in way worse ways these days than discussing a rumor.

    Exactly!!! That's why I was saying that drugs didn't overtake the entire Jackson family. Drugs overtook the entire Debarge family. Both Bobby and Tommy were drug users before they even got to Hollywood. Their problem wasn't what Hollywood done to them.  It was what they did to each other. Mama D would love the hell out of a Jackson/Debarge child. 

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  6. I challenge that they & The Sylvers had better full albums than The Jackson5/Jacksons honestly. Every track on All This Love is single worthy.

    And see what we're (you & I) are doing here now is what the media needs to be doing, damn research, ask them about their actual problems, change the subject back to how the health is, how such & such is doing in jail and how they feel about why theyre there. But theres the problem, the public won't care unless Janets names brought up.

    And I agree with everything you said, truth is obviously if he was telling the truth that she did in fact get pregnant but he thought she aborted it he probably always clung on to this rumor for dear life, which I can see because he STRONGLY believes they belonged together to this day, and no baby = no connection for them to share forever, so this rumor may be his last cling to that world.

    Watch when the show reveals the girl isnt Janets daughter they say "But she can still be out there"

    The media aren't going to do that. Take for instance when James, Bunny, and Randy appeared on Dr. Drew's show back in 2012. Even while talking about their family problems the Jacksons Janet and Michael were brought up. And James knew from the get go that he wasn't going to rehab. But they needed him there to talk about the Jacksons. And i'll bet money that they had to bring James along for that very reason. The media isn't interested in the Debarges like they are the Jacksons. 

    I was reading an old interview Janet give to Spin magazine. Janet said that James mother kept calling her wanting her to get back with James. Mama D knew James had problems yet and still she wanted them to get back together just to say one of her son's was married to a Jackson. Mama D has said that James never got over the break up with Janet which I think is the truth. You can tell by watching the scene in GUHH. 

     

    It's going to be interesting to see how they play this secret child reveal tonight on GUHH.

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  7. Dumb people really be killing me when they take the families "confession" about this invisible girl for 100% fact and say "Why would that family lie?"..........................it's LITERALLY the only thing that keeps their name in the headlines, before searching for this "secret daughter" how many people even knew this scripted ass Growing Up Hip-Hop show was even a thing? Not to mention her storyline throughout the series has always been about her father, not her flatlined career. It's really transparent, whenever a Debarge has had anything to promote on radio or TV they use this, and granted I know it's a question/concern that's continuously brought up, but the dumb shit (her name being Renee, being raised by Rebbie or another sibling) they know good and Got Damn well what they're doing. Giving new lil crumbs of info gets their name going.

    And it's a damn shame because they have a host of their own issues that would be more interesting to see them deal with, like FOR REAL. I been reading more and more all day (on Debarge message boards etc).........there's ALOT of help needed there, and on a human level it breaks my fuckin heart honestly, and it's so sad hearing from you and many others that the mother was as much of a problem as she was. I've seen many of their fans say (the thread I was reading was about Tommy's book) they'd take Joe & Katherine over the Debarge parents.....I don't blame em, word is she's been benefiting the most from their musical royalties and success, and....it shows, like you said she looks younger than at least a good handful of them (James look like he could be her brother), it's...I don't know how to feel lol. But back to what you said about the mom, and relying on the dad's Karma to stop him from abusing her & her children in every way.....that's the kind of shit that people have against religion. 

    Again I tripple down on Janet did the best thing she could do by getting her and her imaginary daughter the fuck away from all that. I mean seriously yall who don't know/don't care, this shit goes darker than we Janfans thought it could with James, hell he was being molested by their father and their brother Bobby too aparantly.

    DeBarge issues>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jacksons issues

    I really do wanna read Tommy & Bunny's books though lol. Though this is all heartbreaking, it's something to be said for how open and honest they've all been about their drama, it's almost refreshing honestly.

    If you search the word Debarge you would literally see more articles written about Janet and this secret child then any of the Debarge family. Which is sad because they do have some incredible music.  But you would be surprised at how many people are interested in this story after all of these years.  That's why the Debarges keep on using it. Kristinia only got back in contact with James because of GUHH. Before that she hadn't seen are spoken to him in years.  And in a way I can't be mad at her for that.  James has put drugs as his #1 for years!!! I know he went through hell growing up but at a point you especially as a parent have to be strong enough to be there for your kids. He is not. 

    The secret child is the least of their problems.  Their mother is their biggest problem. While El was in jail the last time.  She had fans sending her money saying that she was going to put it on El's books.  But she had the checks made out to her and she was spending the money on HERSELF. 

    I just hate that they keep using Janet's name in this.  Let her move on and have her baby in peace. James has been able to reproduce God knows how many times. I really do believe he feels some kind of way because she is having Wissam's child. 

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  8. he cares more about this invisible child than he does his real ones. That's because their mama ain't Janet. Kristina is a hoe who smashed baby face for beats and still flopped.    She is on TV trying to expose something that no one cares about. If this had any legs TMZ would have ran the story by now.  This is a crack family that needs to be on Intervention not GUHH 

    They all care more about this "secret" child than the real ones. El did an interview with Wendy years ago and she asked him about it.  He got choked up about it.  I was shocked because El has the most kids out of all of the Debarges 15-20 that are known. And he just had another earlier this year. Hearing him get choked up over a person he has admitted he's not sure exist had me side eyeing him. I'm sure he has kids out there he doesn't know. 

     

    And yes it was Kristinia's own cousin that said she was living in Babyface's guest house and f*cking him while he was producing her record. If that PI really did find "Rene" you can bet TMZ would have been all over that mess. The PI kept telling her this may not be a real person which let me know they were on some BS!!!!

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  9. Thats very sad to learn, yet not surprising. I always took note that of the 10 Debarge siblings Tommy always looked and seemed the most sad (even in the success years), and is easily the most distant. All 3 of the oldest (Bunny, Bobby & Tommy) have a deep sadness about them that I could always see in their eyes, granted all 10 have had fucked up lives but those 3.... its always been written all over their faces no matter how bright the smile.

    Those 3 were mostly abused by the father. Mama D sat by and let it happen because she thought the father would get his karma one day. So she is as much to blame as the father. And it sad asf when you look younger than your own damn kids. 

     

    Another thing the Debarge family is really uncomfortable with Kristinia putting out the family business on GUHH. She told them at one point when her career was popping that she wanted nothing to do with them. Her career didn't go anywhere. So now she is trying to use the secret kid story to stay on TV. James has also fathered at least 4 more kids in the last few years. None of which he takes care of.....

  10. Do you know.....just now, less than 10 mins ago, I was thinking about what I said here and individually in my mind accounted for what I knew/heard about each of the 10 DeBarges problems, and I realized I didn't know if Tommy Debarge was alive or dead, so I googled him, 1st thing that came up is how his brother Bobby (who had the worst history with drugs and prison and died of Aids in prison) molested him throughout his childhood, and he has a history of drugs and arrest too......that was a distubing find, Bunny's very open about her father molesting her (she's a evangelist and it's apart of her testimony from what I know) and this has nothing to do with the alleged kid (or any of the Debarge kids) but it's just confirmation that there's deepseated issues in that family that The Jackson's dont compare to (as a whole). 
    THANK YOU, Rebbie is my 3rd favorite Jackson, I follow her career, she was way more busy than many who weren't/aren't fans would think in the 80's and all the while as you pointed out raising 3 kids, if she was bringing 4 kids all around the world with her in 1986 (and 2 toddlers) it would've been noticed, hell I can post interviews from the 80s on Youtube where her kids were in the damn room, she wasn't keeping her kids at home with a nanny, she was workin!

    I read Tommy's book and yes Bobby molested and raped him too. He said that even when they went to Hollywood Bobby continued to rape him almost every night. But James got the worst from Bobby because James was their father's favorite. Tommy is very sickly. He has some kind of kidney disease. Last year Bunny's daugther Janae called the cops on Chico Debarge. She said that he was high and was trying to rape her. So the cycle continues.

  11. Im sorry but yea I'd rather Janet give the kid up for adoption & go the path she did rather than have it raised by the DeBarges in the 90's. Like seriously, the Jacksons have their issues for sure...but...The Debarges make them look normal, like SERIOUSLY, EVERY ONE of the Debarge siblings was on drugs (Bunny DeBarge, Randy DeBarge AND their mother said so), and there's been so much abuse so many problems. If James had full parental rights over Janet & his daughter, I think things would've gotten ugly personally because of where he was at the time. Like no drama about the Jacksons can honestly top the drama of the Debarges (and that's a challenge I dare anyone to bring a example to compare).

    Something that was always stupid to me about the rumor is that any Jackson sibling would've raised her (specifically, "she was raised by Rebbie in the south"), except Rebbie had a career in the 80's and was living in Vegas & L.A., releasing albums and touring all over with her kids.... The funny thing is people who eat that bull like it's their fave meal mostly don't know Rebbie released anything beyond Centipede, so imagined she just did nothing but have her family. All 9 of the Jacksons were VERY public between 1980-1990 so it's really stupid to think anybody was stuck at home raising a secret kid.

    That's my issue with this rumor alot of time these days, the lazyness. Like again I grant that we don't see or know everything, but with her & her family you can see alot and find out alot easily with what's available for public consumption & opinion.

    Exactly!!!! I shutter to think about how that kid would have been raised within the Debarge family. James's daughter Kristinia had said that her father wasn't there for her growing up. He was always sprung out on drugs. Had this child existed you can bet your ass that Janet would have gotten full custody with no problem.

     

    People swear up and down that Rebbie raised this child yet if you take a closer look you would see that around the same time Janet was pregnant so was Rebbie. Austin Rebbie's youngest child was born in 85. So you mean to tell me Rebbie was walking around with two babies plus a husband and her two other kids and trying to have a music career. While young Janet just hands over her baby to Rebbie and her career explodes right after. Adding to that nobody ever sees this child.

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  12. Really??? Snap

    Yes she denied it back in 2008. Discipline was #1 and she was doing interviews. Miss jones striaght out asked her about the rumor. Janet said I don't have a child out there. I would never keep a child from its father. She denied it again years before in Vibe in 2001. Then again in 2005. So yes she has spoken out about this time and time again. 

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  13. I've never heard a story of Joe telling him to jump. As a matter of fact I heard James tell that story and he never said Joe was there. I'd like to know more about him being there. Also, I'm not disputing whether Joe liked him or not. 

    I never said I would be ok with Janet having aborted the child. I said I believe she either did that or miscarried. I'm actually pro-life, personally. I consider abortion murder as well, and do not agree with it. And it would be foul to do that without telling the father. Nonetheless it still has a different stain from having this child and denying it on so many levels in front of its face. So either way, I disagree with how it could have been handled but denial of an alive human is very very disrespectful to me. 

    The part about Joe telling James to jump was revealed in one of Jermaine's baby mama books. She was apparently there and saw this go down years before James even spoke on it.

    What I was getting at was you seemed okay with her having an abortion because you said nothing about that being wrong before in your other post. I would think a pro-life person would label a person who gets an abortion as "trash ass" rather then a person who give the baby up for adoption. She didn't "murder" the child as some would say. In essense your saying you wouldn't loose respect for her if she had an abortion but you would if she had a child and put it up for adoption even though your pro-life..... And James was the one who said that he thought she aborted the baby... So he would have known. I don't believe she did either.  I believe Janet lost her baby...a stillborn.... Cuz you know that does happen. 

     

     

  14. You don't know any of these people, first. But here are some solid facts. The Jacksons did have drugs ruin their family, as a matter of fact the most socially prominent family member was killed behind a drug addiction & mistreatment. Also, they invited James & his addiction into their home to live. KNOWING he was an addict, so the idea that this family, or Janet, is so foreign to a lifestyle of drugs & substance abuse is BS. For God's sake, at 9 years old Janet was around coke snorting celebrities in Studio 54. By no means was she this saint who had no clue about the perils of drugs. Not to mention, other family members with substance abuse issues. 

    The Jacksons are a family that also has their own demons. If you lay down with someone knowing who they are, you do not become so self righteous that you hide the child you create without giving ANYONE in the family an opportunity to know. You are doing the CHILD a disservice. Yes, one person can heal not only a family but the world. Some people have so much influence within them they are a blessing to everything they touch. Now granted can we say that would definitely be the case, no but if you hide the child you take a way the potential of ever knowing. 

    Giving a child up is not a selfless act, that's your opinion. It can also be argued that it's a selfish act because you wanted to avoid the responsibility you created. So you leave that child in the hands of someone else, completely negating the inherent abandonment issues you may impact that child with.  Especially to turn around at 50 & celebrate having your first - IF THIS WAS TRUE, Janet would be trash in my eyes. Hands down period. 

     

    You're right I don't know any of these people. However I do know people associated with the Debarge family. And no drugs DID NOT devastate the entire Jackson family. Michael was overtaken by drugs among other things ....he is just one member of the family verses all 10 of Debarges being overtaken.

    The Jacksons mainly Katherine  invited James to stay because he was married to her youngest daughter. They knew he was a druggie and wanted to make sure Janet was protected. It is a fact that Joe did not like James. Even going as far as to telling him to jump when James was trying to kill himself in front of the family. The family knew James was bad news Janet however thought she could help him....she could NOT. 

     

    It could also be argued that abortion is a selfish act. I am really interested to know why would you be okay with Janet aborting a baby verses her  putting her child up for adoption. Because personally I would choose adoption over abortion any day....and that's coming from someone who is pro-choice.

  15. If anything, no one has the right to rob a child from their family. That child COULD be the fix to generational issues. It's my belief, that every so often a special child is born in a chaotic family that tends to heal old wounds or bring peace to certain situations just because theirs something "special" about the child. 

    Beyond all that, Janet would be a trash ass person to literally deny an entire human life. Completely devaluing them by making them no more than a rumor. That's trash as fuck. And trust me, the Debarges have skeletons but the Jacksons also have demons. Let's not forget some of the grandchildren are sibling-cousins. So I can't see how Janet having a child from James would be any worse. Let's not act like they're so high above that family. They're not. Birds of a feather...

    My biggest thought is, she either miscarried or aborted the child. Either way she kept it private but I do believe there is some truth to the pregnancy. I think she regretted whatever it was and how it went down. 

    The Jacksons are messy no doubt about it....most families are. But the Debarges hold a special place. The same siblings cousin situation has happened in the Debarge with you guessed it James and one of the other brothers.

     

    So you think one child could fix an entire family....where they do that at. If having a child can't fix a marriage how the heck is it supposed to fix an entire family. If Janet gave a child up for an adoption she would NOT be a trash ass person. Giving up a child is a selfless act. James was and still a crack addict he was NEVER father material. And I see so many people say oh well Janet could have kept this baby because she had the money to take care of it. Raising a child is more than having the money to do so. Their are millions of people around the world who have kids that don't deserve them. They are neglected mistreated and killed because their parents are not parents. We don't know what Janet may have endured during that time. And with Joe as a father I'm quite sure it wasn't easy for her. 

     

    And another thing The Jacksons weren't raping and abusing each other the way that the Debarges continue to do....They also didn't allow drugs to devastate their entire family either.

  16. Eh as much as I don't think it's true, we only know as much as she wants us to and anythings possible. And honestly it wouldn't bother me....cause it doesn't change that she slays and is the best in the biz.

    Considering all of the tea that has been spilled on the Debarges... If Janet does have a kid from him I can see why she would want to keep that child away from the Debarges and their dreadful mother. The mess that has gone down in that family would blow your mind!!! 

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  17. .......And these are supposed to be her parents?

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    To believe that that's a Jackson or even a DeBarge you gotta be smokin some STRONG Cra--- never mind.......

    The media is dumb as fuck for giving this shit as much life as they have, anyone who belives this looks that much more stupid now LOFL

    I mean......ignoring the fact that there's ZERO Jackson resemblence (MJ's 3 kids are more likely to be Jacksons than her EASILY), I follow/am associated with DeBarges....they have strong genes and resemblences, they come in all shapes and sizes and colors and tones like the Jacksons but none of them look like her.....

    I wonder what James got for spilling this made up info......he's back in rehab.....coincedence?  AGAIN I'll leave a visual aide cause I don't know how many of yall (I doubt none) followed the Debarges but to give refference for those who havent....these are supposed to be her family....
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    And i'v been told that James much like his brother El has a lot more children out there then the 3 he claims. But the only one that they care to find is the one he supposedly had with Janet. Let me guess why.....

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  18. This era wasn't about playing it safe. It was an "Okay, here's the album. Leave me tf alone now." :lol: She just used the "for the fans" narrative as a scapegoat from admitting that she just wants to move to Qatar and live the rest of her life. She released it under her label and was her own boss. So she didn't have to promote, so she didn't. She didn't care about this project. I see right thru all her passive-aggressive bullshit. :lmao: 

    And yeah some of the songs from Discipline do sound a little better, namely the first three singles. -_- Hell even COM still sounds good. :umm:

     

    lol! I couldn't help but laugh at this. I do feel that Janet is detached from the industry. I believe that private Janet has completely taken over from public Janet. I feel she only put this album out because of her fans. She didn't want to fuck with anything else  which is why she didn't give any interviews. Once her baby is born (which I think he is already here) it's going to be interesting how much we see of her. It really feels like she just wants to live a quiet life now. And hell I don't blame. She has been working since she was 7.

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