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I made an unboxing video of the Metamorphosis coffee table book! Did you guys buy the book and what are your thoughts?

37 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

just stop it. This ain't about Dubai. This is about Jeddah and Janet's team is just ignorant for doing this. Even Nicki Minaj pulled out of performing there. Janet is being dragged right now by her fans and the Only way she can justify this is during her performance she speaks out against how they treat women and gays period

No i won't stop it. No one complained about her Dubai performance, and their laws are just as bad as the laws in SA.

I don't remember any backlash after her Dubai World Cup performance in 2016. Except the European fans who were upset that that leg got postponed, yet she still performed in Dubai. 

And let's be honest, the United Arab Emirates are just as bad to women and gays as Saudi Arabia.

Extra show on September 14th in Minnesota! 

6 minutes ago, Illi said:

I'd rather Janet wait for the show to get some more traction. I think if the show can be a high attraction from abroad, a world tour is imminent.

Yeah but i don't see the residency being extended. There's already a high demand for Janet to tour abroad, and that demand will only get bigger once there's a new single and album release.

Soooo... apparently this lightning-designer was mis-quoted. Still, I am pretty sure we'll get a (Metamorphosis?) World Tour in 2020 when JJ12 is out.

21 minutes ago, bu. said:

You must have been blinking a lot then 

European folks can be "stiff", especially a UK audience at 5 P.M... Just because they weren't all singing along or dancing doesn't mean they didn't like it.

Normally when I'm at a concert I can be quite stiff too. Not at a Janet concert though. 

Can somebody tell me which videos are actually available in the US and which are not? Curious.

34 minutes ago, bu. said:

Because I was watching live and know people that went who confirmed. 

I didn’t because Glastonbury tickets usually sell out months before acts are announced and when she was announced I couldn’t. Don’t try and belittle my opinion as if I’m not allowed one just because it’s not aligned with yours. 

Cause you spoke with all the 20,000 people? I watched it too and I saw people dancing and enjoying themselves. 

2 minutes ago, bu. said:

SOME of the attending audience liked it. There were plenty of pans where audience members were like wtf. 

How do you know? 

1 hour ago, Illi said:

The Lambs can seem to forgive Mariah for her voice cracking, why is it so hard with Janet? Either way it's only one performance.

Again, it wasn't Janets fault. She was singing just like normal.

32 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

We never said she needed 4 costume changes for a 50 minute set. The outfits they wore were boring and dusty period so let's not lie and say they weren't. The Unbreakable tour was amazing and even tho Janet did just 2 costume changes she made up for it with how she fucked the stage up just like she does usually. She had much better production, danced more, and at least her costumes weren't that bad. Glastobury was a different story. Let's take away the bad mic feed, she had shitty attire, and she didn't dance as much. As much as we love Janet and hate to hear people bad mouthing her we gotta be honest with ourselves sometimes and realize we can't always have an excuse. Sometimes it's just what it is. Everybody who's a true Janet fan knows shes better than what she did at Glastonbury no matter how much time they did or didn't give her.

actually all of what you said is true and yes other fan bases do critique their faves. We don't critique everything Janet does. Nobody critiqued Global Citizens,MTV EMAs,  or Vegas. Y'all be saying that stuff just cause and we're so opinionated cause Janet has spoiled us. She's given us perfection when it comes to performing. Nobody could fuck with her in her prime and just last year when she finished SOTW tour so when she isn't giving us what we're used to then yeah we're gonna critique. It's not like it doesn't make sense. In our eyes she's the baddest female to ever entertain and we're gonna wanna see it that way until she's no longer with us.

Its just an opinion. I actually liked her outfit she wore at Glastonbury & Montreux. And Janet was dancing. I saw her in Montreux and she DANCED. I saw the Glastonbury show later and yes, she danced less, but is that an issue? Does that make the show less good?

4 minutes ago, bu. said:

And I stick to mine. It sucked. 

You all clearly are at my opinion. 

Good for you for enjoying a drear performance. Janfam has clearly gotten use to mediocrity. 

Who am am I to judge her? A fan. Judging her like you are, like we all do and have done for years. 

She got dragged by the country she was performing in. 

It were just some pressed people on Twitter hating on her performance! Pretty much the same people who were hating some months ago when Jan was announced as one of the headliners.

The Guardian gave her like 4 out of 5 stars (how about that?) AND the attending audience liked it. 

6 minutes ago, Lenzo88 said:

Honestly, I don’t think Janet cared and seems to only be recently working on making her channel on YouTube more accessible since her team are working on reestablishing her to a new audience since she’s been so blacklisted and unappreciated before she came back with “Unbreakable”.  It’s all about marketing and reestablishing her brand since the SOTW Tour. Maybe in preparation of an upcoming new project? Who knows???

Exactly.

I applaud Janets new team. Eversince 2017 they're really putting more effort into re-establishing her name and legacy. 2018 & 2019 are all about that. The worldwide Icon awards, the vinyl re-releases, new YouTube uploads & unblocking videos, Vegas residency. 2020 is all about the new music + world tour. 

47 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

why tf did she wait over a decade to unblock her videos. It's so sad cause they all most likely would've have 30 million+ views by now  

Just imagine how high the views could've been if it wasn't for the 15 year radio and tv boycott... 

I wonder if it's really Janet's decision to block/unblock/upload videos though.

13 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

I just pointed out how you could barely see her  You don't need big staging or bring all other stuff onstage. Stop saying stuff like big staging and colors are craziness cause it sounds a little naive when you're talking about a world class legend, icon, and entertainer. Being mediocre on stage is for basic bitches and Janet ain't no basic bitch. Actually with Glastonbury she did need to prove herself. When you've lost tons of your international fan base you definitely need to prove yourself. I need some of y'all Janet fans to stop being so naive and in denial that Janet, maybe not in the United States or Japan, indeed has to prove herself in some instances. You're bringing up the RN tour which was her first world tour ever. She's progressed way more since then. When you progress you go forward, not backwards.

Okay, I see your point but don't twist it.

I'm saying Janet doesn't need to have 4 costume changes, she doesn't need "craziness", fireworks, etc. Just look at the Unbreakable Tour. It was pretty basic but it didn't matter because Janet simply mesmerizes audiences with her talent. That's what I'm trying to say. Awesome staging like in Vegas is super cool, but it's not necessarily needed. Just like she doesn't need to do all of that (all colors for example) in Europe. 

Yes, she is restoring her relationship with Europe now but it's not like she 'lost' fans because of her live skills. We experienced her first 3 tours so we know what she is capable to do. People might be scared to buy tickets cause they're afraid she might cancel, not because the show is too 'basic', a lack of colors or 'mediocre' 

And about the Rhythm Nation Tour. Using black was done on purpose. Yes, she progressed during the years in terms of the tours, but Rhythm Nation's color WAS black.

10 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

Outfits for one, at least different colors. There were instances where you could hardly see her even on the jumbo screens cause her black was going against the black of the screen so the contrast was horrible. Production also could've been way better. When you do Glastonbury you go there to show tf out, period. Janet did a good job for what she gave but she could've done much better. I'm not gonna point out every bad thing but let's not act like we haven't seen Janet kill it just a few months before Glastonbury. Global Citizens fest was just last year and she ate that stage up. She also just did the MTV EMAs and killed it.

I'm gonna remind you that Glastonbury is a festival and Janet had a 50 minute slot. There's very little time to bring in her own staging like on SOTW. 

I honestly don't see the issue with the costume she wore. It's not like you could barely see her. 

Plus, Janet doesn't have to proof herself with big staging, colors and craziness on stage. Even though her relationship with Europe has become rocky in the last 18 years, the audiences here appreciative her and don't NEED to see her in colorful outfits and stuff. 

The Montreux show was pretty much the same (30 minutes longer though), but no one complained that we 'couldn't see her'.

Now I'm writing this, I'm thinking about Janets Rhythm Nation Tour. Weren't her outfits there like.. almost all black? And wasn't the staging... black as well? No one complains about that tour and the color contrasts.

10 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

Most of it was out of her control but not all of it

What was it that Janet could've done better than normal?

1 minute ago, janetDAYZ said:

Every performance is not gonna be a slam dunk. What artist hasnt had a bad night or two? Its life. Get Over It. It wasnt her greatest. We got it.

The point is that it was not Janet who had a bad night. It was out of her control.

1 minute ago, bu. said:

“Great” is doing too much. I’m focusing on the stuff relevant to me in my country 

I stick to my words. She gave a great performance. Energetic, she danced, she was singing. There were issues, yes, but we as fans know what the show was supposed to sound like if the Glastonbury guys didn't screw up the sound.

2 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Yeah, I noticed that too!!! My bad!!! Seems the videos from The Velvet Rope-20 Y.O. Are STILL unavailable in the US, so I guess I spoke too soon! I’m sure they will become available very soon...at least I hope!

But her janet. Era music videos are all available in the US. 

It's sooo random. I mean, here in Europe Twenty Foreplay is available, just like Thats The Way Love Goes, Again, Any Time Any Place, Got Til It's Gone, Son Of A Gun & So Excited. All the others are missing. 

Even some older videos from the A&M days are missing. Nasty, Let's Wait Awhile, Alright, Love Will Never Do (Without You).

23 minutes ago, bu. said:

I don’t know Montreux and don’t care about it. 

THAT'S the issue! People try to focus on the bad stuff. "Bad" stuff actually, because the Glastonbury show wasn't bad. Yeah, people couldn't really hear Janet but that was not her fault. SHE gave a great show, just like her dancers. And the people in the audience seemed to enjoy it. 

8 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Yup!!! All her music videos on vevo are available in all countries now!!! FINALLY!!! But we absolutely need the Virgin Videos uploaded in HD as well as the rest of her videos! 

Not in Europe... Still some Virgin videos are missing. If, You Want This.. I don't know which videos have just become available in the US? 

4 hours ago, bu. said:

People didn’t - they weren’t sold out shows. 

Stay mad that she delivered a shit show and got dragged for it 

Exactly. 

I'm not letting you say this. Glastonbury was a great show but there happened to be technical issues which weren't her fault. The Montreux show was very succesful: it was sold out (the €600 balcony tickets too as well) and the show was really good.

10 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

That's The Way has been available a loooong time ago but wassup with "Together Again"?  

That's the weird part... Some Virgin videos are actually on her official account like Any Time Any Place and Got Til It's Gone (and now TTWLG, Again, Whoops Now and What'll I Do).