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On 9/11/2020 at 9:17 PM, JoeJoe said:

nope never heard that story. That had to suck. Idk why oversea sponsors wouldn't deal with her. I thought it wasn't a big deal to them, only in America it was

 Joe, u have got to think about it from a business stand point. Whether to them if the sb was a big deal or not.. has nothing to do with the business moves you make. No one seen Janet as profitable since her career was falling apart...so no one is gonna invest in you if they dont see a benefit for themselves. Sponsors are not gonna support a tour they think will fail becus her career was on thin ice at that point,. Its about business and not personal in that industry. And its understandable

On 9/9/2020 at 3:06 PM, vibeology said:

It reminds me today, I was talking to the decorator who has been in my house this week and he told me his name was Eissa! He was like it means Jesus, I was like " I know  do you know Janet Jackson? 

*blank face*

JANET JACKSON

*blank face*

Michael Jackson? Its his sister...

"oh  I think I've heard of her"

Granted, he's Afghani and probably around 27, but I would have hoped for some vague knowledge 

Tf?????????????? Are u serious?????????? 

On 9/9/2020 at 11:59 AM, JoeJoe said:

Wait i've never heard that before? Nobody would sponser her for that tour? Couldn't she have gotten one from overseas or something?

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5 hours ago, VelvetKnowledge1814 said:

Every time I think about this, I just get sad. Janet has been dropping the ball since around 2002. Not touring worldwide for AFY because of 9/11 was the wrong choice. Not touring anywhere for the Damita Jo album was also a bad choice. That album should have gotten an international tour. She still doesn't have all her music videos uploaded onto YouTube in good quality. That should be an easy thing for her to get done.

I'm a younger fan; I've been Janet's billboard for most of my life. Growing up, I was always the one telling friends about Janet and educating them on her talent. People who are young have little familiarity with her because she doesn't interact. While I enjoy Janet's aloof persona, it does not excuse Janet's shortcomings.

She hasn't done a proper world tour since the Velvet Rope Tour over 20 years ago. That's not the 20+ Y.O. that we want to celebrate...

Well that one wasnt exactly Janet's fault. Janet was gearing up to tour for DamitaJo but it basically fell through cus she couldnt get no sponsors to support the tour, she was blacklisted during that time. Nobody wanted to touch her. She was "poison" in the industry at that point. 

On 9/7/2020 at 10:32 AM, JoeJoe said:

Yeah I remembered when she finally got on IG waaaaaay after everybody else. Mariah got 9.5 million and Madonnasaur got 15 million cause she's always trying to stay young and relevant. Janet is at 5 which is ok considering how late she joined. Shit like that Rickey Smiley interview about Janet going head to head against Beyonce in a vs battle would've never went that way with most of them doubting Janet had enough hits to go against Beyonce if Janet was truly cemented. There would've been no doubt in anyone's head cause Janet truly does have more hits and no.1s than Beyonce.

Exactlyyyyyyyy Now if they said Beyonce vs Mariah....ppl would kinda be like..."oh shit...Mariah got a lot of hits..idk Beyonce" .... Thats my point...Mariah's team does a great job in letting the public kno WHO TF MARIAH IS AND WHAT SHE HAS ACHIEVED. Thats why it makes no sense that ppl dont kno janet has tons and tons of hits. If Mariah can thrive through the culture..janet aint got no damn excuse. Let these youngins kno why they should bow down

4 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

Sorry I don't buy that "having kids" stuff as an excuse. Tons of Legends have kids and still make sure they're legacy is never forgotten. Janet's legacy is cemented for sure but we don't need it barely hanging on by elmer's glue. She's for sure cemented here in America but there's so many overseas who say they haven't heard of her or don't know her work. That's not being cemented

Im telling yall Janet getting all those Lifetime Achievement awards gives her this false sense of her legacy flourishing. Shes not truly lifting the wool off her eyes. Kids should know WHY janet is a legend...not juss hear about it. Not to mention the views for Janets videos on youtube is dramatically lower than her peers.. Her not handling her youtube shit back when it really mattered is another missed opportunity. She's always late to the party. Like why arent the ppl in her team not keeping her up on stuff...its weird. Is nobody paying attention to anything? 

On 9/5/2020 at 5:10 PM, Jakob said:

It was on top of her website, LOL. It said "European and other world dates soon to be announced". 

And how many times have we seen janet switch shit up or change something abruptly? Lol like i love Janet but i dont fully trust her cus shes always unpredictable. Janet could plan to start the first leg in tokyo and a wk before the first show the first leg would get scrapped like it never was on the list lol 

9 minutes ago, Jakob said:

I think it's bad luck and circumstances. Janet was huge in Europe! After Unbreakable, the State Of The World Tour should've had a European leg, but LiveNation didn't want to invest in a European tour without a new album to promote. Janets team definitely wanted to work on her relationshop with the European fans, so they booked two big festivals that also drew media attention. Finally, for Black Diamond, she was really supposed to be touring over here with a proper leg, but then Miss Rona f***ed up everything. Praying for 2021

i would have to see it to believe it bc we think that with every single tour 

Well at least from the "secret" info i gave about Janets plan to have a behind the scenes documentary surrounding her album and the tour (from an extremely reliable source).. It gives us something to look forward to once Rona is outta here. Im sure janet is gonna stick to those surprises for her fans once they get the ball rolling again

16 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

I've been seeing if from y'alls side for over a decade. I've been wanting her to start focusing on her overseas fans since America did her so dirty after the Superbowl. She should've went over there and toured all over the globe. Janet fucked up. She literally could've been huge overseas like Madonna. We'll never forget her here although the younger generation barely knows her but overseas definitely forgot about her.

Janet and Europe ...idk why thats such an estranged relationship ..its something behind the scenes that i dont think we're privy to. You go to Europe to do a festival  but you wont tour over there. It makes me think is the demand a.lil shaky over there or what? Why has a Europe leg been put on ice for so many years. It has to be a business reason that we dont understand

2 hours ago, jinthahouse said:

but guys also take into account that the blacklisting had an effect on her songs being on mainstream radio. This is why she had a number one like When I Think Of You or All For You and it doesn't get the radio playback today like a La Isla Bonita or I Will Always Love You

I understand the odds that were against her that she couldnt control but she isnt doin much to make up for it now..that she is on social media. Thats my point. Her and her team should be pushing her as a legacy act more..idk i guess u have to see how mAriah's presence on social media to see what im talking about. But then again we know janet doesnt care based on how she hardly promotes when she goes on tour..so... She really doesnt care 

4 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

I said the same thing and some fans are blaming it on her being blacklisted trying to say she was blacklisted for 10yrs. I had to correct them that she was blacklisted for about 5yrs. LA Reid got her back in good standings with MTV during the Discipline album and radio stations started playing "Feedback". This was in 2008 so yeah it wasn't 10yrs

 

i think its a combination between her being blacklisted (cus she wasnt on the radio or seen on tv) for a good chunk of years and the when she went on her 7 year hiatus after she got married. So in total that was ALOT of years that Janet was not seen or heard..so thats alot of time missed out on being reintroduced to a younger demographic. Janet missed the rise of social media really thriving.. So i think those reasons are why there is a disconnect of the younger folks not being to familiar wit her work becus of the blacklisted thing and her disappearing after her marriage. Meanwhile Mariah and her team was knee deep in the social media game..and janet is still playing catch up

4 hours ago, vibeology said:

When has she ever cared about the extra shit? The amount of love/support she does clearly received for years is enough for her. I guess she feels her legacy is cemented. She has never cared about figures and she always looks embarrassed when accomplishments are brought up. In saying that, though im not an expert, it would probably require limited effort to set these things in motion.

I hear you but also get why she has no interest. Im sure she has said more times than once that when a project is done, its done! She isnt looking back, focusing on what she sold. Its like ok, whats next and i hope they enjoy it. I mean it took her long enough to perform unreleased songs on tour because fans wanted it...so maybe one day she might do it for the fans.

Dont be fooled despite Janet being bashful about her accomplishments she has ALWAYS cared about album sales & figures hence to her always saying "Im extremely competitive with everyone including my brother" ...and she also told oprah she wanted to outsell "Thriller". Janet didnt care as much once she got past her prime understandably. I think her being honored with artist achievement awards give her a false sense of her legacy flourishing but thats only through the scope of the industry..what about the streets? Kids hear about Janet being a legend but they dont know what for cus they arent familiar wit alot her work. Her and Mariah are playing the legacy game differently. But hey, thats all janet. If she thinks her legacy will thrive on...coo..but i dont want her to be one of those forgotten icons once she passes..thats my only cconcern.

23 minutes ago, Jakob said:

Cause radio and tv are not playing her music (videos)... And that does not only happen in the US. When I was a teen (around 2006-2014) I don't remember seeing Janets music on tv or hearing it on the radio. Yet, radio and tv WERE playing Mariah Carey... 

 By that time the SB had affected her on a global scale. Janet use to be one most played artists on the radio and the most visible on mtv. .then after the sb..it got real quiet and then she became older and older acts rarely get played on pop stations...janet had alot of odds against her but she isnt doin enough on her end to sustain her legacy at this point. Then when she got married and had went on her hiatus for 7 years that didnt help cus that was during the rise of social media. Janet was late to the party.  Its alot of factors

On 9/3/2020 at 3:47 PM, vibeology said:

ive never really understood why that was so important to some.

The reason its important to ppl is becus Janet for most of her career has always been UNDERRATED to a certain degree and we ALL know this. I think when we have factual stats and accomplishments it supports the argument of why Janet DOES belong in some of the conversations of the BIGGEST POP ACTS EVER..cus even tho WE know she is one the most influential and biggest the general public doesnt quite know that and thats why she has had this underrated umbrella over her head for a long time. I have literally seen articles talk about MJ, Madonn, Whitney etc...and Janet's name NOWHERE to be found..as if she didnt make as much of an impact and its boggling to me. So yes..certifications and all of that matters in Janet's case. 

I actually know 2 ppl close to Janet's camp..

And i recently asked them individually what is goin on behind the scenes. The first person (who is a background singer to the stars and is friends with ppl in Janet's camp) said before the virus hit that Janet was INDEED working on a documentary and it was to include a never-before-seen kind of prep for the Black Diamond World Tour - rehearsals, the sessions for the new music + all the historic stuff. A lot of it was going to be filmed in real time. He said he didnt know how far they had gotten before the pandemic but her rollout was about to be colossal. He said he kept prying for info over time cus they were tryna keep it top top secret and they had finally gave him those tid bits. 

The other guy who is a janet stan and is cool wit Janet's camp exclusively said he and other friends had been contacting Janet's team to try and get them to do more and push her legacy more..and he said her team was juss not that interested becus Janet doesnt seem to be worried about it. He said the team pretty much didnt feel Janet is involved and hands on in wanting to ravish in her legacy. So he said he and his friends had finally gave up wit tryna talk to Janets ppl and get them to do more becus no one in her camp isnt motivated cus Janet simply doesnt care. So idk what is goin on with Janet its almost like she a completely different person these days. 

2 hours ago, Illi said:

Janet was always someone who more or less doesn't want to be bothered when she's isn't doing project. Problem is that it doesn't translate in this day and age. I just don't think it's fair that it means she has little regard to her fans, she might value her privacy more. There's also some obtuseness over what's exactly is going on.

To me its not even about giving the fans something...im more concerned with her LEGACY ...its falling to the wayside becus its not enough effort from her or her team to support her status as a legacy artist. It should be young ppl knowing janets music the way they know Michael jackson and Mariah's.  Mariah is doing what needs to be done as a legacy artist...janet is juss not. Aretha was way before my time but i know Aretha songs. Why does this young generation not know Janet songs? See how their is a disconnect? Her legacy should spill over into other generations like her peers and its not.

12 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

Yeah I know Jimmy feel it sometimes too. Look what I just found out Sade doing for her fans. Releasing a box set. How long has it been since we've been trying to get the RN and janet. tour on dvd? 

 

Yeah i seen that and was SHOCKED CUS Sade has been gone for 12 years and juss outta nowhere..this?!

3 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

So damn sad to hear. I'm tweeting about it right now and i'ma @Jimmy. I hope he dont get mad but it's the truth. I remember that video about that 18yo boy. I need to know where it is cause i'ma tweet it and tag both Jimmy and Janet.

Im sure Jimmy feels the same as we do to an extent but would still back Janet up juss becus he such a ride-or-die her. So he would never admit if he felt the same way as her fans do....ever 

I say this becus its more than evident at this stage the way Mariah and her team handle her status as a legacy act is unmatched and in turn Mariah has not only the respect of the older audience but also of the young generation becus her team has a way of keep Mariah visible in a way that makes everyone knowledgeable of Mariah's achievements, success and records that she has broken and still holds. So this makes Mariah name thrive and sustain through this new culture of social media junkies. For instance w/ the Verzuz Battle..Mariah's name keeps coming up and everyone is saying "Only Mariah can go against herself cus no one has as many hits as her" and WE as Janet fans know only JANET could easily go up against her cus Janet is the only other legend today (besides Madonna) that is packed with hits for days n days but its interesting that no one is bringing Janet's name up to go against Mariah becus its almost like ppl arent either knowledgeable of how lengthy janets catalog is and/or they janet juss isnt fresh on nobodies mind cus she is so tucked away. I juss wish Janet's team would kinda push Janet's legacy more cus its kinda getting lost in the shuffle. Hell, you even had SwizzBeats acting like he didnt realize how monstrous Janets catalog was..and he is KNEE DEEP IN THE INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!! ..like what??????! but yeah....something clicking. Even that 18yo boy who went viral and was talking about how Janet is one of the best selling, biggest pop stars of all time but no one from his generation can name a Janet Jackson song. This is disturbing to me..her legacy is not being handled well. 

Janet is posting positive stuff that is related to whats goin on in the world today and thats considered "boring"? Maybe u forgot janet is and has always been socially conscious...maybe u need go admire a more self centered entertainer ie Mariah or somebody 

6 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

I’m sorry daddy!!!

U juss drive me insane asking for that damn album EVERY SINGLE DAY . Janet half ass promotes her stuff when shit is normal can u imagine if she was to release sum shit during this time? That album would come and go without a trace in the sky. Or us hardly seeing Janet at all, juss the music.  We dont want that. We want to see her out and about when her music releases.

U need to calm the hell down. Let the roll out happen when it does. They are waiting for the coast to clear. Stop anticipating and juss think logically....it will probably release towards the end of the year or the top of next.Yall always talk about yall want Janet to WIN but yall want her to release shit in the middle of all this mess? That makes no sense.  No sir, too many distractions. Ppl worried about how they gone feed their family next week not about no damn albums. We need to look at priorities here.   Chill da hell out. Let the dust settle. The album is coming. The world is not ending no time soon i dont think.

5 hours ago, GTIG said:

Please she was making love in the rain lol we knew she was a freak lol

But MLITR wasnt nearly has sensual and sexual as this version of Funny How Time Flies...It was very on the lite,sexually.  This version of FHTF makes the other version sound like a disney song