FreelovesJJ

Please just don’t let Preston mess this look up and let the clothing choice be favorable to her. 

I’m sorry....

1 hour ago, EphraimAdamz said:

Amen. I know it sucks for fans, but we can all agree that the media can't be trusted.

That’s not exactly the same as directing them to ask the same questions for 30 years. You can control the narrative and tell them what angles are ok, and have an adult conversation. There’s so much to discuss -

What was your sons first words?

Who do you feel he looks like and takes after?

After being in the game so long, where do you pull inspiration from for your tour designs & projects?

Are there any new musical elements you want to explore?

How do you stay engaged after you’ve set the bar so high for yourself and others? What does success from this side of the game look like?

fuck those animal cages lol

I’m ready for better questions even though I’m sure they’re regulated. She’s damn near mid 50s and I’ve heard about her cleaning up animal cages since she was in her teens. 
 

I also want someone to ask her who does she feel her son looks like most & takes after in regard to mannerisms and expressions. Like these interviews are slick stale. 

I wonder when this was, I just landed a couple hours ago there too. 

6 hours ago, EphraimAdamz said:

so we gonna act like Feedback on SOTW didn't slay?

 

And isn't that what the new generation likes? "Hair-ography" or whatever they call it. Instagram poses on stage. Can't blame Janet for staying relevant.

Choreography doesn't seem to be relevant in the industry anymore. People just want to "turn up" and "twerk". All your Jlo's, Paula, Usher, Jason Derulo, NeYo, etc big dance numbers seems like a dying trend. Ciara has been struggling and she's one of the best stage dancers of this generation, yet people seem lost or confused when watching a broadway-esque style number. Even Chris Brown traded in his big set pieces to become a rapper. It's really sad. Tinashe was another new artist that people paid dust on stage. Yet these are all phenomenal performers, but people rather attend a Cardi B concert or whatever while Missy and her dancers receive credit 20 years late

I can’t agree with all of this. Much of Janet’s dancing transition is due likely to age and her health at whatever state she’s performing. Janet during SOTW had a lot of energy & delivery. It was undeniable. The thicker, which is not a problem or complaint, she is the less she pushes herself choreographically. 
 

While I’m by no means a Beyoncé fan, she still performs choreography heavily. Chris Brown by NO MEANS has traded dancing for anything. He is HEAVILY a choreographed act. Every performance or video includes him dancing. He doesn’t ever get away from that, nor does he try. Bruno is another who still has heavy choreography in his show. Missy is a great performer but she battled health issues so she never truly established herself as touring act due to that. 
 

Janet doesn’t emphasis poses and arms/hair for relevance. She does it for comfort. That’s not a judgement it’s just what it is. 

5 hours ago, JoeJoe said:

exactly and when has Janet not done lots of arm and hand movements? She's going to strut more, she's fuckin' 53! Hello!  I ain't seen no 53yr old female or male performer dancing as much as her.

There’s a difference in delivery and I’m sure you feel that bc you mentioned her age. I’m not saying Janet should be the same and never age. I’m saying Janet on SOTW vs Janet on RN30 is different in the delivery of choreography. 

10 hours ago, janetDAYZ said:

Im not saying they arent talented dancers. I have seen other things they have done..and their abilities.. And youre right maybe it is bc of the the more "toned down" choreo. But they juss arent connecting to us like the RN janet. and VR kids.

Honestly, I think one of the reasons there’s not as much of a synergy between the fans and dancers is because Janet’s outgrown the years of making her dancers her friends and a “thing” back in the day those dancers were not only in the music videos they were on the songs...they were in her interviews with her...they were more like her entourage. 
 

Now these dancers, while she treats them amazing...she’s more like their “auntie” if you will. There’s a separation between artist & crew, before it was more family oriented. I always felt overall, her 20YO dancers were very lackluster, as well as #1s. 

7 hours ago, janetDAYZ said:

Wow. Lol i didnt know it was ppl that didnt care for Allison like that. 

Ive been indifferent with Janet's dancers since the A4U era up til now. Pretty much interchangeable imo. The only 3 eras where her dancers were "standouts" were RN, janet. and TVR era. Since then they have been juss accessories

When it comes to skills and dancing ability these dancers are some of Janet’s best dancers in a very long time...the PROBLEM is not the dancers it’s the choreography that tends to be tailored to a toned down Janet. 
 

If we’re gonna be honest, ASIDE from the energy of SOTW, Janet’s choreo hasn’t been as detailed. A lot of arms & hand movements & strutting…etc. 

Go look up each of her dancers on YouTube in the dance studios. Allison doing Anaconda, & another Nicki song. The girl with the short hair on an August Alsina song. There’s quite a few. They have more ability than Janet’s recent choreo has called for. 

1 hour ago, JoeJoe said:

Allison gets standing ovations because she's a big girl. Let's not pretend we all don't know this. Secondly she's never been excellent and you can clearly see that in the "Dammn Baby" video where she's supposedly pop lockin' for those few seconds. It was a no ma'am for me. She can dance but "excellent dancer"? Never

We’ll just agree to disagree. I’ve followed Allison from her studio days & even when she was smaller. Allison is an excellent dancer & you’re just not fond of it. Which styles she shines the most in, might be debatable but her talent is not. At least for me & a host of others. It’s not because she’s a big girl it’s because she’s a big girl whose great at what she does. 

48 minutes ago, JoeJoe said:

Alison ain't never been excellent at dancing but Did you really just try to compare Janet, a legend, icon, blueprint, and trendsetter who's been dancing since she was 7, to one of her backup dancers?

Stop being petty…Allison has absolutely been excellent and gets standing ovations not only at Janet concerts...but in her studio performances & more. 
 

While you saw it as a devaluing comparison, you missed the point. The point is someone who is a professional dancer, like Janet & Allison...both have the capacity to fuck up. Even in ALL her accolades you named...let Janet tell it, she considers HERSELF a mediocre dancer. Which we all know to not be true, but still proves...all that has nothing to do with whether or not a person can make mistakes or not. 

Alison is an excellent dancer. Excellent, and I can post a video of Janet completely messing up the AFY breakdown. Everyone has an off moment or performance. 

18 hours ago, Angela said:

I agree with Free regarding SOTW. 

Outside of Vegas, I’ve only seen Janet in LA and I’ve been seeing her consistently since 2008. It doesn’t matter what city I’m living in, I will fly to her show in LA. When she did SOTW the first go round, I was living in Dallas and I was telling a coworker I was going to go see her in LA. As soon as I mentioned it he told me his friend and his wife went to the concert and they were STILL raving about her dancing and were calling it a comeback. That was one of the few times I’ve heard someone off the cuff talk about her like it was 1994 at work. And when I went in LA I knew what he was talking about. Sometimes when you’re giving me that kind of energy, and Janet moved like she had something to prove, IDGAF what your production looks like. She was a beast and that’s why that particular tour stands out to me when I think of post-prime Janet. What she lacked in production, she more than made up in energy to me.

I would say her least memorable to me was probably #1s and I went to see her twice on that one as she did a few nights in LA. What stood out to me was being able to meet her family. 

Absolutely!! That’s exactly what I’m saying.  Janet performed SOTW with a vengeance. And when she went from baby weight to fighting weight, & came out in body suits and moved like she was in the best shape of her life the entire tour felt electrified. 
 

I loooove a multi-faceted production. Absolutely love it, but it is nothing without Janet’s energy. You can tell when she’s into the show & performance vs. when it’s obligatory. This is her JOB so everyday of every project does not feel like - her passion. It shows. SOTW thru & thru felt like hers. It’s like when a woman breaks up with a man & she bounces back in a way that is a huge level up. At this point, Janet is no longer doing it for the IM BACK energy she’s doing it because she’s working. 

22 hours ago, Lutfa said:

I would agree with you but Janet's career has not been the same after 2004. She made several efforts to get back on the charts globally but it just never happened. There is no budget for big shows and visuals. Rock Witchu Tour proved that she couldn't break even with a big production show. Then all that stuff with Wissam, having a baby etc.. Her mind isn't exactly at breaking records right now. She's still changing things up on tour, performing songs we never thought she would. Her wardrobe has been very wtf since the new tour started but that's just what it is. Made for Now was a step in the right direction, meaning she finally stopped catering for a handful of old skool fans and went with current sounding music instead. Ask Cinq and their amateur team why it never took off. And yeah her age plays a huge role in this as well. She can't hit those high notes anymore (she said this herself in an interview), and she obviously cannot dance like 20 years ago. 

We can all agree we were left thirsty for huge success and global tour after her career took a fall. But it's time to move on now. It's not gonna happen. Back in 2009 it could've been possible but she left and disappeared and that alone alienated European fan base. Her team has been working overtime to try to remind people of who Janet Jackson is. And they've had success doing so. But how many times are you gonna rely on Control and Rhythm Nation? In 1998 Together Again was the second biggest single in the world. Nowadays casual music listeners don't even remember that track and radio hasn't played it for a decade. And that was her most successful single to date.

It's time to move on from the illusion of her somehow going back in time to 2010 and reclaiming her throne. It just isn't going to happen. I love every single show, and song she puts out. I appreciate and will always cherish each Era. But those times are long gone. Comparing her to Madonna, who still has global appeal and success while on tour is silly. Janet does not have the same appeal anymore. Half of music listeners don't even remember her. Everyone knows who Madonna is and her team has kept her legacy alive and going. Janet's team is only now trying to remind people of who she is. 

IMHO the only thing I'd change is the short edits of AFY and Together Again. Especially, when performing at award shows. One or the other should be performed fully, and that would def have a bigger impact than doing a 30sec recap of both. 

So glad we can have real convo here. First, Janet’s career dip - yes was majorly due to her blackball BUT then Janet, even in recent years, got the opportunity to reclaim her brand. Especially when black twitter edified her by doing #JanetJacksonAppreciation - Janet’s issue isn’t that Cinq didn’t make her music heard, they had some “spat” that needs resolving - it’s ALSO that Janet has not leaned into her boldness. Some major life attacks obviously jaded Janet from the business from losing her brother, her marriage, her break up before the marriage, the label fall out...all that shit is not only stressful it’s tiring. 
 

Lastly tho - Janet could have come back edgy IF she wanted to. She didn’t. She actually refused. Even with Janet being more spiritually grounded now, and always have but especially now, which I appreciate she often doesn’t follow through. She decides against it for whatever reason & is like fuck it...I’ll just perform. When I feel like it. 

12 hours ago, Kalfou said:

Another thing is that Janet is very old school...she doesn't seem all that interested in technology, sis just started taking social media seriously 2 years ago  As time progresses and the budget is there and she gets older and thicker...we are going to see alot more pizzazz in her shows because Damita Jo won't be doing all of that moving on stage. There is a recent clip of her performing 'You' at her show and I swear Janet wanted to give up after that first dip and it looks like she is thinking 'What in the fuck am I doing,dis tew much and aunties parched' ...that choreography is alot tho, sick as fuck but I don't think I could do that every night and be 53 years of age...oh no ma'am.

 

Janet being old school is a valid point, but only because Janet is a Taurus and three thing about a Taurus are:

they HATE change

theyre stubborn 

and they’re loyal to A FAULT

Her adding in her deeper cuts from her catalog JUST now, after being begged for years is proof. As well as her keeping team members that could have been shifted around for better results. She has not tried to have style nor push for anything captivating in a while. That’s why SOTW was so pivotal because she was wearing things that made her sexy while still maintaining her class & modesty. AND I’ve seen Janet dance thick & thin...but SOTW she DANCED & physically her health seemed prime enough for her to deliver. 

1 hour ago, janetDAYZ said:

Its weird to me that yall be more worried about costumes than production

"Im fine with scaled back shows but UGHHHH THOSE HIDEOUS COSTUMES" 

 

What???????????????????? Im sorry. The focal point imo is THE SHOW not no damn costumes. She could perform in a damn banana halloween costume throughout the who show...long as im seeing exciting shit take place...EYE CANDY is what its about imo. Lights, pyro, smoke...etc

 

But i will say like someone pointed out, janet has to be careful budget wise when it comes to production bc RWU tour showed she over spent and had problems recouping that money bc of how that tour was handled was a big mess..no promo and all kinds of problems. It was like some markets knew janet was coming and some didnt so her shows having major attendance issues. I truly believe thats why that was a short lived tour...she would have been in the red if she would have forged forward..it made no sense to go on with a tour and have this big ass expensive production but not making a profit cus its low attendance. Im still bitter about it cus i felt that was one time where Janet took a gamble and had that go big or go home mentality with the huge production but it didnt pan out for her bc the business side of that tour juss was in shambles. And it was 2 and a half hour show!!!! She really tried to bring it. That tour was destined to fail bc it kicked off having issues. 

Listen,

Production IS costumes, visuals, lighting, sound, set list, band, dancers, special effects - etc. 

So when you say the costumes don’t matter - they do. A costume can become so iconic it becomes a cultural look AND can get you fashion/brand endorsements that allows you to “creative direct” for a line or company. While you might be focused solely on visuals - which IS a major and necessary part it doesn’t compensate for Janet not giving as much energy as she did on SOTW. The show was stripped down as some are claiming, but her delivery wasn’t. She looked VERY good & it showed she was “back”. At the current time, Janet is making random stops without a obvious actionable plan. Even if she doesn’t release music there are major ways to stay active and keep your brand relevant. Making you a desirable asset in the market. 

7 hours ago, janetDAYZ said:

Im not saying SOTW wasnt a good show....alot of fans were saying we missed the special effects. Sotw felt stripped down. That was a personal choice Janet made.. And thats fine. Like I said, there is no right or wrong answers...it all comes down to preference and personal taste i guess. Me, I like showmanship and production...while somebody like you may juss be satisfied with the endurance of a performer. 

I actually agree with showmanship and production. Wholeheartedly. I feel there’s times where she’s had both or one or the other. 

1 hour ago, JoeJoe said:

man please! Janet did the damn thang and the crowd loved it as well as viewers at home. You got a big stage then use as much of it as you can. Why you think Madonnasaur and Beyonce be selling out? Production.

Production is not only stage design and screens...Janet having a lot of dancers didn’t make it a great performance. She personally DID less. Go watch & see how a good amount of that Billboard performance wasn’t her giving as much energy as SOTW & just a big amount of dancers. 
 

2006 Billboard was more impactful. 

37 minutes ago, EphraimAdamz said:

what works for them doesnt work for everyone. it was messy. the superbowl was better organized for janet

I agree with the super bowl statement. 

On 9/25/2019 at 6:57 AM, janetDAYZ said:

I wouldnt say all that. I mean it def was high energy but you make it sound like it was on the level of her energy during the TVR tour...and thats when Janet was in RARE FORM. 

But if im being honest, we know Janet has the showmanship as a performer but a dash of production/special effects only hightens a performance imo. I feel Janet always thinks juss her and her dancers are good enough but we gotta crank it and take it up sone notches ..we need visuals along w/ dancing imo. It juss has more of a "wow" factor. Juss like how her 2009 AMA performance fell flat , well becus it was juss HER and HER DANCERS up there juss dancing. It was basic. There wasnt much you could sink your teeth into bc there was no element of excitement. No props..no visuals..no special effects..no story. She missed tge mark on that one and thats why thats known as her forgettable award show performance of them all. Production value + showmanship = UNMATCHED BEAST 

I agree more visuals and production CAN make for a better show, but it doesn’t equal a better performance. I absolutely agree with the mention of Billboard proving that. That performance was big but underwhelming if were going to be honest. 
 

SOTW was Janet’s best show since RWU in my opinion. As far as her performance value. The theme of the show. The set list. Her choreography AND her actually pull all those moves off. Her endurance. It was a much better performance ESP at her age bracket. 

On 9/25/2019 at 7:01 AM, janetDAYZ said:

It was certainly better than her dry 2009 AMA medley performance 

Both were underwhelming so it’s not a better or worse. It just had more ppl. 

On 9/25/2019 at 2:12 PM, Jakob said:

She doesn't need all of that. Number Ones was pretty basic, just like Unbreakable. People showed up because they wanted to see Janet rocking it! 

Number ones wasn’t a good show, and I’m no saying production value is useless I’m saying it’s not all Janet needs to make it a great show. When Janet is in her element she goes in & SOTW was her element - after her break up, she was on a mission & she achieved it. 

7 hours ago, janetDAYZ said:

To me honestly...a setlist is interchangeable ...im more concerned with elements of production and special effects. 

Special effects >>> setlist

SOTW was wayy to scaled back for me. Even Unbreakable Tour had more  production than SOTW

I can understand the production value being a big component, but I also feel that big production without the performance value can just be a distraction.

Her performance during SOTW was at an all time high. 

I’m very surprised to hear ppl take this over SOTW, granted I haven’t seen it…but from the costumes to the setlist - idk how this beats SOTW. We got 24Play, Spending Time With You, Where Are You Now, Whats it Gonna Be, You Ain’t Right & a bunch of other shit…kinda wild. 

Seeing how the last show was handled, what remains to be seen is how she will handle a larger venue. 

A celebration tour should be heavily focused on the theme, message, album, & journey. 

5 hours ago, Angela said:

 

I mean... she’s being honest and folks are trying to read wayyy too much into it. I think if she was working on releasing she would’ve just said it. She’s a music artist. It wouldn’t have been earth shattering. Some of us sound like Rihanna fans right now. 

FACTS! Lol at least Rihanna claimed she’s dropping. Janet said, nah I’m not & they said...maybe she doesn’t want to reveal she is. Lol

10 hours ago, Jakob said:

Very recently Ty Dolla Sign received a track from Janet to work on. That means she's certainly working on things. Maybe not constantly, but eventually there will be an album. 

This could have been a wide range of things. Someone could have wanted to pitch her something with Ty & he excitedly spoke out of turn. I’m not saying he’s lying, he just could be speaking prematurely. 

14 hours ago, Lenzo88 said:

Ok, you guys have to take into consideration that “the new music is there, it’s just not being released anytime soon”. Since May of last year, Janet confirmed with Billboard that she was working on new music but plan change like when she was offered the residency this year. Also, remember that Janet is independent now and has to find her own projects as well as record label on her own. Her touring isn’t just to reestablish herself as a touring artist but to rack up as much money to find future projects like an album, tour, etc. Just give Janet and her team time. She was recording from late 2017 to late 2018 for a reason. We just have to wait from her lips as usual.

No disrespect but Janet & her team had developed work and music for all the fans to enjoy around Made for Now. It’s not a matter of her not having time because they are independent. She just decided against it. 

26 minutes ago, Jakob said:

Of COURSE Janet is not gonna tell a local newspaper she's working on a new album, lol. Plus, when she says she's not working on new music RIGHT NOW, she's probably being honest. Her focus has been on Metamorphosis and now these RN30 shows. I can totally see Janet return to the studio around December/January, finishing what she already has and then March/April-ish the album. 

You’re missing the point. Made for Now dropped over a year ago & when it did she had already recorded enough to give you new material. It’s not about telling a local paper...she doesn’t want you to anticipate anything because she’s not dropping. 

For years fans have created their own hope that she’s going to deliver the music and visuals and products they desire...but when she tells you she’s not, she usually means it lol. 

Again, lol, Janet had been recorded music and has songs recorded. Remember the EP conversation? There was music recorded for that, & enough to actually have a solid EP...despite the fact, some fans thought that would be stupid. That concept & project would have been something fans would have loved if it were released. 

Noooow...things seem to have taken a turn in a different direction like it often does with Janet. She’s decided to get tour money based on past work. RN right after Metamorphosis. 

These producers or writers are not lying and making things up about working with Janet...the music just doesn’t ever hit the streets. 

On 8/24/2019 at 8:33 PM, J. said:

I hope she gives her something like “Before I Do” 

I LITERALLY said this before they started linking up. Before I Do would be Janet’s complete lane & the lane she should explore. Sevyn is a beast & her pen game is ridiculous. Before I Do always felt like an modern Aaliyah/Janet track that would be the ballad direction Janet has kinda missed. 

15 hours ago, TaurusLove84 said:

I believe a RN document/celebration show could be released, it would be a perfect time! But then again, I have no idea. I do wonder what all that material was used for - from the old Jackson family home etc.

She has been rehearsing and performing so much lately in different places so I'm very skeptical about new album in the near future. But what do I know, many of her moves have been random in the last years, so I guess everything is possible. I hope she releases new music before possibly doing a major world tour.

You might be closer to the mark with there being some sort of commemorative visual or look at RN & the legacy. I mean it makes more sense with her doing these shows around the anniversary...time will tell if she is going to release that. 

On 8/24/2019 at 6:20 PM, janetDAYZ said:

Then why do u feel Janet has been having cameras following her for these last couple of yrs if shes not working on a doc? Thats strange. 

That’s not strange at all, in 2019 that’s standard. Not to mention, you better believe Janet has content she’s accumulated from likely all of her tours that’s never been seen before. You see cameras during rehearsals, you see them during backstage moments...but in her candid times (airport or out) you don’t necessarily see cameras around her. Also those cameras are capturing even content like this:

And this...

This content was created by Janet & her team. 

There’s no Netflix documentary. What everyone speculated to be the Netflix documentary was fans over reading the video montage she used for State of the World. 

Literally. It was basically the same thing fans did with “conversations in a cafe” so what her team did was tease the fans with the rumors they created. 

As far as new music Janet has had new music recorded for well over a year. 

3 minutes ago, Amy said:

 

I want to see the full choreography.