Freexone1

where are you from? 

the EU hasn't much to do with our GDP success. Britain has been jumping between 4th-6th largest economy for decades, and before we joined the EU. All that's changed is our share of the global gdp, which is less, and I believe is a consequence of being in the slow growth EU and not being allowed to make our own trade deals with the rest of globe (which thence increase our gdp, our share and our prosperity). 

China has bilateral free trade agreements with: Chile, Peru, Pakistan, Thailand, Singapore, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, Costa rica, South Korea and more. All these countries are smaller than us.  

On the other hand, the EU can't even make a deal with India. It stalled last year. It took 7 years to make a deal with Canada which isn't even signed. 

China may want a deal with te EU but it can't agree one. It's not going to delay a much less complicated deal with the United Kingdom, because it can't reach one with the EU. 

What has the empire got to do with it? The UK has always been superpower and remains one today. You don't have colonise and "rule" the world to be powerful and influential. The days of colonisation is over. You need to get your head around this.  We are the 5th largest economy in the world that contines to influence in so many areas. Just because we are no longer an empire doesn't mean we can't punch above our weight and achieve things. I keep hearing we are too small to be powerful. Population size is also irrelevant. The UKs population was only 20 million at the height of the 2nd empire in 1800s.

yes we can it's easy. As the 5th largest market in the world, we say to them you won't have access to our market unless you let go of free movement. The German car manufacturers are not going to allow Merkel to say no when they sell millions of cars to the UK market, the german economy would lose billions. We don't need the single market like they need our market cause the EU is protectionist. EU countries can't make separate deals with non-EU countries. But NOW Britain can. 

It's symbolic. Drip by drip the EU has moved in on our soverienty. It starts with an EU flag on your driving license and Reg plate and goes further. This topped with the free movement of migrants. We could see what they are up to cause, its in our everyday life's and the majority of brits said we didn't want it. That's democracy. :)

The EU flag is on my driving license, not the Union Jack. I know that might not seem like a big deal, but it's the motivation behind it that's wrong.  A driving license is an ID. Nobody ever asked me if I wanted that, nor have I even been convinced it's better. 

With great respect to Norway, a very lucrative rich country, the UK is a much bigger economy and market for the EU to have to negotiate with.  As has been said many times in the campaign, the EU nations need us more than we need them, as we import more than export. They have more to lose. The single market, although important is not vital. There are only 3 countries in the EU richer than Australia and they have already reached out for a trade deal. 

The problem we have in dealing with the EU is that they need to agree as 27 countries on a trade deal.  It just highlights how difficult it was being inside it. If they don't agree something with Britain, they l, especially Germany (EUs biggest economy) will lose out, so Britain is in a very good position, assuming we have a strong group at the negotiating table and not some weak remainer who still thinks we are better in the EU. 

One minute people are saying we'd be irelevant without the EU, the next they are saying my country's decision shook the world. 

Your ur speaker has today called for a trade deal with the UK in parallel with the EU. He said it will be easier and quicker with the EU. 

We will prove this. You can't make sensible deals and have a say as 1 nation when there are 27 other countries involved. Out is better. 

Canada, Australia, New Zealand also have already said they are keen to arrange trade deals with the UK. 

Oh and btw the FTSE 100 has risen back to Pre-Brexit levels. What happened to Armageddon? 

I have no interest in going to work in 27 other countries many of which has youth unemployment at 50%.

The jobs market in the UK is 15 times bigger than Spain for example. Why would I go to Spain that has no jobs for its own people let alone migrants. There is no security, no future. 

The globalisation/EU has taken away young people's futures. My parents generation could buy their first home, they had a choice of jobs, they came out of uni free of debt, they had a real sense of national identity. They were happier (surveys done in the 70s show that british people were the happiest in the world). Young people today don't have any of that, they can't afford to get on the property ladder, they struggle to get entry level jobs, they come out of uni with massive debts, they don't have a sense of identity. 

Life is for most people about having a future, and security. If I'm born here and educated here and my family is here, I want to secure a future here, in a permanent job, in buying a house, in meeting the right person and getting married and having my own kids whom I would wish all the same things for. The rest of the world is for holidays. 

Anyhow, if I really wanted to go and work in another EU country a can do that also outside the EU. We had visa free travel to the 9 original EU countries before we joined the EU ourselves. Granted that's unlilely now cause there are so many countries and we don't want free movement, but I don't mind that. Migration to a country is a serious decision. I wouldn't mind filling in a visa form if migrating was something I really wanted to do. People used to have to have a job to come to, to speak the language fluently, to be able to integrate. The free movement policy has undermined all that. 

I may not have known life outside the EU, but then it's only in recent years that they have intensified the integration of the economies and politics. This is why people want out because its gone too far and the EU doesn't listen. This has had a significant impact on our sense of who we are, are we nationals or europeans. It's the baby boomers I connect with, they are my parents, my grandparents, my family. They know what it truly feels like to be british, to have a genuine sense of patriotism and pride in their country. I admire that. I couldn't be happier with the result. I look forward to the day I can apply for my passport and driving license with the Union Jack on it. 

And I belive bu, once you start to see the benefits in the time to come, you'll come round to the idea. 

The fundamental point of why I voted leave and why the vast majority of 17 million voted leave, which the media choices to ignore, is soverienty. You have to look at my parents and grandparents generation. They had a future. They had a sense of genuine patriotism and pride and identity. But nobody asked me if I wanted the EU flag on my driving license and passport. Young people like me dobt have a future in the EU. Britain is a proud country. The EU undermined that and we, the british electorate wanted it back. I wanted to reconnect with who I really am, not be told I am something I never identified with.

This is not a negative thing. It's about having a self confidence and self belief in our ability to flourish in the world today and make our own decisions. The biggest gainers are the young. I just wish they'd all see it. They now have a future. I'm very thrilled and excited. We'll be outward looking again and trading with the world on our own terms, not the EU's.

The so called young voters who are upset by the decision are hypocrites. 

Only 37% of those between 18-24 who registered actually voted, and only 24% remain. If they didn't want it they should have voted. 

Also, them critising the older vote is shocking. It's the older voter than vote to take us in to the EU 40 years ago. Obviously they have realised their mistake, reversed the decision and hence given the young an opportunity to decide their future.

Americans have no right to critise this decision. I don't see USA united in a United Americas project, with Canada and Mexico. 

The United Kingdom voted to regain its soverienty. Why this is a bad thing for I don't understand. It's a fantastic vote for democracy. Now the country can once again write it's own destiny.

your ignorance astounds me.

Last week, the Church of Scotland Protestant/Christian church, voted in favour of gay marriages in the church and allowing gay ministers to marry.

Find me a mosque and imam that accepts gays,  let alone allows gay marriage. 

Christians are not going around boming people, cutting people's heads off and throwing people off buildings. 

Now let me make this clear. There is a difference between Islam and Muslim. 

Islam believes everything revolves around the prophet Mohammed. its what ISIS bases its ideology on, and what sharia law is based on. But Mohammed was a rapist, a murderer, a pedophile. Islamists believe he is the one everyone must obey and follow by his lead. 

Muslims however, are meant to moderate everyday people that very much lead their life the way you might think a moderate Christian would. 

The PROBLEM is, our western governments are mixing the two and allowing the Islamists the same freedoms and place in western society as our own people and that is causing the mess we are in. The problem is also, with the migration of people if the Middle East to the west, there is no way of knowing if they are followers of Islam or just ordinary moderate Muslims. There are growing islamic communities in London for example and this has been ignored for years for political correctness for fear of linking it to moderate Muslims. 

What an extremely insensitive and bizarre thing to say.

How dare you compare this to the Jews and the holocaust. Jews were not killing people, they were scapegoated and blamed for the Great Depression. They were victims. Islamic radicals are blowing people up and shooting down innocent people who are enjoying living free. 

Freedom of expression is superior. It's western civilation and values that's under threat here and the sooner you Americans realise it the better. You might start by electing Donald trump cause Hilary doesn't give a shit. 

As for janet, she is certainly not obligated to say anything but the janet we knew before now would have said something. Janet has changed now, and I believe her husband and religion has a lot to do with it.  

He needs to get over himself. If you don't like it then stop being famous. Stop making music. End of. He has no right to complain. He made a choice to do what he does. He's not like Michael Jackson who was basically forced in to it at 5 years old and then sold the biggest selling album making him famous forever. Now he didn't have a choice, justin does. 

The proof is in the YouTube comments and the general response it has received since the album release. This song is favoured by a younger audience. My friends weren't  feeling no sleep, but we're dancing to damn baby. 

Not once did I talk about competing, I am simply stating the obvious, that damn baby is more appealing to the younger ear than no sleep. Janet is a legend. No one is watching for j.lo like they watched for janet last year, and her answer was to put people to sleep. I love no sleep but it's not a good 1st single after being away 7 years. Damn baby would have hit hard. Even the first 'damn baby' in the song. 

Im sorry you are such a lame fan that you can't want the most for janet when times are good. I was there for janet doing the times of trouble, when the boob popped out to when  everyone was mocking 'nothing'. I've been there since 97. Who are you? Where were you all that time? 

Damn baby instrumental

I agree. It's blatantly obvious that damn baby would have had more impact as a first single. Or atleast if it was released not long after. Only 'game' would argue otherwise. Fool.

It's a much bigger song that hits hard and is liked by the iTunes buying public.

The era really has lost its momentum. Dammn baby has last views than ain't your mama. That's just crazy. 

Religion has shaped most countries in the world, especially in the west, all the way back to Magna Carta. America bases its constitution on Magna Carta. There are not many places you could go to get away from. But I'd much rather live in a country where Christianity is the official religion than Islam. I do believe yes that these Christian influenced and secular values are under threat if the current situation continues to worsen and our politicians don't take real action. 

News just out: Austrian chancellor resigns due to his failure to tackle the refugee crisis and social cohesion. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36245316

A few posts ago I mentioned problems in Austria/Europe and the anger around the issues. 

I'm not a racist. Colour of skin is irrelevant to me. I don't see it. I just don't believe multiculturalism works and I disdain how much it has been shoved down british people's throats since Tony Blair opened the door wide for everyone to come in and then started a war. 

Who is indigenous? Lots of people. I am. I have ancestory in britain before the union was even formed. 400 years +. 

Sadiq may have voted in favour of gay marriage but I don't personally think he's honest or to be trust. I feel the same about Zac Goldsmith to an extent as well and he is white.

And I'llbe voting to leave as the most democratic choice. We can control our borders. Immigration can be good but not in the numbers now. They are much too high. They are not integrating. We never had this problem with Italians or Jews. 

You're thinking of ISIS. I'm not taking about that, I'm talking about legit nation stats whose laws are Islamic. Doesn't matter if they are secular, their laws are not european democratic.

rhythm nation was a dream...she should've known better.

lol. How can you not see your own hypocrity. You are calling it extremism when it is actually another culture.  Many of the immigrants you say are good for inclusivity in the west come from countries where sharia is applied. Guess you're a bigot too then. 

Bringing democracy and capitalism to much of it. To nations that as a result today have prospered to become exemplary models of the free world. United States, Australia, Canada etc. Countries colonised, not invaded. But many countries did not welcome it and quite right! They didn't want the change because they had a different heritage and culture. 

That is what I'm defending.