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On 1/17/2019 at 10:39 PM, Lenzo88 said:

I think this is literally the only tour that comes close to the raw showmanship, wonderful theatrics and mind blowing medleys that was The Velvet Rope Tour!!! You can tell Janet LOVED this tour because she kept keeping the same kind of medleys for the next two tours she did. By TVR tour, she definitely reached her peak as a performer and live artist! Honestly, the AFY tour is one of her weakest because it just seemed like a light -hearted version of the TVR but without the same amount of energy and epic ness!

Back on subject! I LOVE the Janet. Tour because of the drastic contrast from the industrial, stripped down look of the Rhythm Nation Tour. The outfits were stunning, especially the opening Native American inspired fashion! Very original and inventive! The opening with “If” is by far the best opening to a concert I have ever seen! Janet has NEVER killed that opening choreography of If like she did on that tour! Wow!!!

Not to mention, this era/tour brought us the signature “KIDS” aka Janet’s most iconic team of dancers: Tina, Shawnette, Tish, Nicki, etc. Looking back, it was very 90s at certain parts with the laid back feel of the closing segments but most of the show holds up SOOOOOO well to this day. It’s the tour that really made Janet into one of the fiercest touring acts until the TVR tour set a new standard for how ambitious concert tours could be!

I FORGOT ABOUT IF AS THE OPENER, BEST opening track of the 8 tours, and I'd add I think it's the most high energy full on choreography open, where she's giving you that shit right out the gate, like...shit that blows my mind to even think about. Like, don't get me wrong TVR is my favorite opening period for the grand-ness & theatric's & production If being the followup song and performed with that high ass energy....brilliant. BUT If as an opener is like nothing else she's done since that tour & I'd be shocked/surprised if she did again. 

Also, I agree with you about AFY, Gil actually elaborated on what went on there, it was kind of thrown together and there was a ton of drama going on behind the scenes that got in the way of that tour so they came to an agreement to play it safe. Of the 8 tours it's actually my least favorite, like people talk about Number Ones, RWU, & Unbreakable, AFY feels like the most autopilot of the 8 tours (don't get me wrong I love it, and it has fantastic moments that others don't...but not as many as the rest IMO). 

And YES to that last point, like I always say the janet. era/album is my personal favorite because to me EVERY fucking thing about that era was perfect including for me it's the only era where I LOVE every single dancer and where the energy all felt so high and fun and fierce with a light dash of dark & edgy that led the way for TVR (like so much about the era did).

I had to just go back and watch......again NO OPENING WAS THIS LIT in terms of the choreography and energy

It's up high for me, of the 8 tours. I love the contrast between that & Rhythm Nation & how TVR was an evolution of that, & I feel like Rockwitchu was an evolution of that, and now State of the world. It's in the top 5 for me (I don't feel like ranking lol), I REALLY love her energy during that tour (as well as the era thus it is my favorite) I think because of the dancers that she had her goofiness was on showcase, I mean we all gagged at "yall know I came to snatch some wigs" with State Of The World but lets not forge "Band! Get Funky (why?).......cause I'm payin you!" Her fun side came out more on that tour than any other tour as a whole, the rest of the tours has it's sprinkles but that tour it was all over.

I wonder if this was for the music video

Wow....that made Ciara's look great....

It's just like the Wade Robinson case, when Wade's career was poppin (being 1 of the biggest choreographers for a period of time, even danced with Janet at the 09 VMA's), he took the stand under oath in defense of MJ, did a ton of documentaries pro MJ. But when his career and money dried up all the sudden he remembers things differently and goes after millions. These 2 guys are the same, took the stand in defense, now.....

I been saying for 15yrs, NO  MJ accuser has credibility if they have a big number attached to what they want. I'll doubt his innocence when Macully Culkin, Emanuel Lewis, or Cory Feldman (who adamantly declares MJ was 1 of the few adults in his life who wasn't abusing him physically or sexually or any other way, and has been a HUGE whistleblower in recent years about people doing this behind the scenes). Until then it's never been a smoking gun on this issue, and so many people wish so badly it was. This is different than R.Kelly, Mike's only guilty of being this easy a target. It actually amazes me the parallels between the 2 and how people try to mark them the same. Robert did what he did in plain sight (even as far as getting married to a 15 year old) and his career grew, vs. Michael got publically accused and his career suffered ever since.

Also Mike taking Babyface from Jermaine was retaliation, Babyface produced Jermaine's diss track against Mike, and Mike uphanded Jermaine effortlessly and easily. Plus threatened to sue if he didn't change the lyrics to Word To The Badd for the album version. Jermaine & Mike were always off & on in terms of how they got along, Jermaine was consistently the boldest of the brothers in expressing what he did and didn't like or want up until the end. Jermaine's forever in 9th place of my Jackson rankings (hell 10th if we counting Joh'Vonnie)

Janet 1st 3yr tour since TVR!

4 hours ago, Voodoo.Queen said:

You would think fans would be used to her looking like something out of a Tim Burton movie by now. 

I can literally name 5 essential characters from his movies that inspire her look. Even her Black Girls Rock look was parodied for looking like something out of Beetlejuice. Let Janet be the artist she is.

Now you know damn well that's asking too much of some folk

The look works better in motion/video than in pictures.

But fuck that being the focus, I love how they had those different groups present her & the how opening. Speech slayed as usual

But watch y'all stay on the outfit....

#Mood the Legacy won't be denied any longer.....

3 minutes ago, Game For Now said:

That’s perfect. Keep sharing!!!!

Hell yea, if it's out there for others to get (......on a fucking Madonna forum no less, still blows my mind) why not bring it to more of us that would appreciate these n probably a bigger way than than them like I'm gonna "oh lemme stop cause we might not get You Ain't Right stems"......I'm not out here digging & lurking for any specific one.....the ones I get/find some I appreciate way more than others, but I literally wouldn't spend anything more than 2 figures on any of this stuff, again if we talkin bout Janet's unreleased full songs from the vault......like Pillow Talk....I'd consider, but I'm not that collector that lives for collecting (that buying & trading shit) cause I also like sharing, especially shit that's shareable.

21 hours ago, eli's_rhythm said:

BoA has tons of bops you guys get edumacated.

 

 

HOLY SHIT, the influence is real, the 1st & last song are SLAYAGE for real

Together Again.....if anyone wants it

*DM if you want it*

On 11/28/2018 at 9:45 AM, Game For Now said:

 

On 11/28/2018 at 10:18 AM, Game For Now said:

Idgaf  

It’s not that serious bruh

 

On 11/28/2018 at 11:07 AM, Amy said:

Do you know how childish you sound?

Yall preach!

10 hours ago, WannaBeForNow said:

I guess you can view it that way, if you don't know the history of these leaks, but anyone's opinion on me is irrelevant to the point. It is virtually impossible for anyone to get their hands on rare multitracks from now on, due to this one guy. I'm glad I started trading years back.

Um that sounds like your problem more than ours, I appreciate every (vocal) stem I get, but I'm not spending money on that shit, it's not like these are completely scrapped albums or a ton of unreleased songs. It doesn't matter to me enough to give big money for any of this stuff (or the specific tracks you named, which, I'm actually happier with the ones I have seeing as how I'm more into collecting stuff pre Velvet Rope more than post, & even then....not going big with the costs nor am I trading my extreme rarities for em). You do with what you have what you want, I get that this may be bad for your business.....but it really doesn't affect any of us that aren't about that life....so we gon keep on sharing ..... for free.......

Funny How Time Flies

That J Lead one....um JANET WENT AWF vocally, like she SANNNG in a  way that is not present on the released version, makes me wonder if it was maybe gonna be a bit more of a vocal ballad than the quiet storm jam it is, it actually matches the "Don'tchu Ever Leave!" volume & notes, it's so Goddamn pretty too! It's only a moment but it's a bomb moment, it's not too much too it, it's also a moment where she messes up the lyrics but mumbles and throws in words for the flow that's cute

Janet lead 2 is the entire lead acapella

Janet lead 3 has extra dialogue and all that rarity goodness, it's a entirely different lead and includes the extra Janet notes goin awf, has her breaking into laughter and talking and trying different things out, THIS IS THE SPECIAL ONE! IF YOU DOWNLOAD THIS IS THE 1 YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT ON YO DEVICES!

*DM if you want it*

OMG Janfam not having any expectations, who would've thought that was a option?!?!

Im mad as fuck

not that she's doing this, but that it's sold out as fuck, in fact his cruises through 2020 are sold out!....DAMNIT, I forget his audience don't play about this shit. I do appreciate that the money goes completely to HBCU's & his scholarships so that's cool

.......................And this is why it's crazy as hell to try to predict her ass...

And just so for when  the rumors get started again about Vegas & being a judge on a talent show (cause they'll always come back).....we won't be having the "it's beneath her" conversation....cause this is beneath them 2 options, like this "Unsung" shit. 

But ay I love Tom Joyner, he's retiring, always wanted to give 1 of his cruises a shot, maybe she has too...idk, he has also had her back & her family's back in a big way throughout most of her life & career so maybe it's a major thanks

Y'all still tryin to predict the Queen of Unpredictability.....

The Performance was fire.

I realize it's more fun and less stress not trying to anticipate her every move & next step as if she's 1 of her lessor"s.

On 10/25/2018 at 3:57 PM, Dal said:

Holy shit

Right, I intend on making my own Acapella mixes out of some of these. I can honestly say right now I Get Lonely is like my 2nd favorite acapella lead vocal (in terms of the availability of the songs). Strip away the instruments, the beats, even the background vocals that sound like En Vogue amazing, and you got Janet singin her ass off in a way that gets lost in all the rest (same can be said for Rhythm Nation actually) 

*DM if you want it*

On 10/24/2018 at 3:15 PM, Game For Now said:

Not worth it

.......they are....ima make the best of stuff sharable

The harmony vocals of IGL>>>>>>

....theres a moment during the recording of GTIG when she at the end yells out  "WHATUP NI**AAAA! YEA HEFFAS, IM IN HERRRE!" THAT ALONE....eh ill just share that one now, its 1 of the few I had time to convert 

ALSO, if you heard the Janet audio documentary you heard Jimmy talk ahout the completely alternate original GTIG, well you can hear it really good if you listen closely to what shes ad-libing over

*DM if you want it*

I.Love.Them.TOGETHA!

So I know I'm like a drop-buyer now, but word to the newbies.....this ain't how threads like this work, unless it's a question "Where can I find Janet Stems".....when you have something to share or you want to talk about with others, post it ORRRRRRRR post how we can all hear it. I'm sitting on all kinds of rarities that I won't start a thread about till I'm ready to share, otherwise it's like what's the point? This is how it's done (this is the only 1 I could find)

........................anyone care to actually share...