Idrag4mj Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Paris Jackson–if she wanted to be in the movies, you’d think her grandmother would take her to Steven Spielberg or someone reputable or high class in Hollywood. Instead, Paris, who’s 13, is now being exploited for a movie that has no funding, a producer with no production credits, and a cast that includes such sterling movie actors as Larry King, his wife Shawn, and Joey Fatone of NSync. The website for “Lundon’s Bridge” has already been set up with Paris’s picture prominently featured. And there’s a FUNDRAISING button on the website–the guy, Stephen Sobisky, doesn’t actually have the money to make his three part fantasy adventure. He’s using Paris as bait. And Katherine Jackson, the ill equipped grandma, has no clue. But let’s get this straight. Sobisky is a visual effects supervisor for B movies. He has not produced or directed one major motion picture. As we’ve learned from the recent “Gotti” mess, the rest of this is hogwash. Where are the Jackson kids’ lawyer? Where is a guardian? Sobisky will now fish around the world using Paris Jackson to try and raise money. And the little girl probably thinks this is going to happen, and be a big deal. Oy vey. And please! “Fifty percent will be donated to schools”–really, what schools? What are they talking about? Fifty percent of what? It’s a shonda, as you say in Yiddish. PS The book this is all based on, “Lundon’s Bridge.” is such a classic it’s self published by a journeyman Hollywood bit player named Dennis Christen. It’s currently ranked around number 86,000 on amazon.com with three reviews. Janet Jackson, call your agents http://www.showbiz411.com/2011/12/10/michael-jacksons-daughter-paris-already-being-exploited-by-hollywood It's sad that fans called it within maybe 30mins of hearing the news. How do we always figure these things out within minutes and the Jacksons wait until after the eventual thing self destructs and they get a lawsuit/bankruptcy before they start realizing anything? I just think it's sad that the same grace and intelligence they've shown with phony charities and phony tributes they're now doing with his 13 year old child. Paris can be passionate about it and be saying this is her choice all she wants, I'm sure it is, but she should have people around her who are going through everything carefully and informing and guiding her in the way that a 13 year old girl can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm pretty sick of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 I'm pretty sick of you. so tell me what was wrong about what i said..oh and if your wondering ...Janet is excluded when i say Jackson's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 so tell me what was wrong about what i said..oh and if your wondering ...Janet is excluded when i say Jackson's You listen to a GOSSIP site versus real news? And to think it's some of Michael's fans being this ridiculous. ABC news >>>> this site http://abcnews.go.com/m/slideshow?id=8026077 And your bashing of Katherine is pissing me off to no limit. I am SICK of it. Give me some receipts NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 You listen to a GOSSIP site versus real news? And to think it's some of Michael's fans being this ridiculous. ABC news >>>> this site http://abcnews.go.com/m/slideshow?id=8026077 Rey you know i love you..but 1. do you honestly think i am that dumb to believe something Just because it was written on a gossip site NO when i heard about this so called movie i had such a bad feeling and i was right ...from the little research i did ..i found out that they folks involved haven't any movie credits to their name not one They rushed out a book with the cheapest ..most basic and amateur looking cover in history and PUT PARIS jackson on the cover to sell the book then Cos she has star power send her on ellen to sell the move and raise funds I mean seriously...a movie based on a book..the all of a sudden you put paris on the cover of the book for movie..a few weeks after she "got the role" and all that seem's Legit to you..I just can't with you . Everybody can see this is some shady ishh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Rey you know i love you..but 1. do you honestly think i am that dumb to believe something Just because it was written on a gossip site NO when i heard about this so called movie i had such a bad feeling and i was right ...from the little research i did ..i found out that they folks involved haven't any movie credits to their name not one They rushed out a book with the cheapest ..most basic and amateur looking cover in history and PUT PARIS jackson on the cover to sell the book then Cos she has star power send her on ellen to sell the move and raise funds I mean seriously...a movie based on a book..the all of a sudden you put paris on the cover of the book for movie..a few weeks after she "got the role" and all that seem's Legit to you..I just can't with you . Everybody can see this is some shady ishh ... You can't with me?? Know what? Conversation over. I'm not about to deal with this. I am nowhere in the mood for it. Not today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 no biggie ...i just stated the facts..and provided proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 no biggie ...i just stated the facts..and provided proof No. You're quoting some gossip site and trying to single-out Katherine in the process. But it's cool. I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 No. You're quoting some gossip site and trying to single-out Katherine in the process. But it's cool. I'm done. thats what you think i did.. in all honesty Like the michael forever tribute..i think she's really clueless about this.....its whoever that instigated the deal ..that i blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 thats what you think i did.. in all honesty Like the michael forever tribute..i think she's really clueless about this.....its whoever that instigated the deal ..that i blame It's what you've been about since I met you. Making all the Jacksons seem so money-obsessed and painting Katherine out to be an unfit guardian for Michael's babies. The tribute I agree to an extent, but this movie is fine. You think these kinds of films are always high-budgeted? No. She's getting her feet wet and because of her name, has a chance to not only put someone on the map but make money for education like Michael would have loved. Spielberg and others are already huge. Do know what could be said if the director who FIRST cast Paris-Michael Jackson? How huge that is? Especially in later years when she starts getting her awards. Do you really think she should start out with one of the biggest directors for movie ONE? Her name alone will sell this and showcase her gift as she grows and develops in the business. She wants to start at base one and build. Not start at the very top. This is a test. Stop shooting her down and support the girl. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's what you've been about since I met you. Making all the Jacksons seem so money-obsessed and painting Katherine out to be an unfit guardian for Michael's babies. The tribute I agree to an extent, but this movie is fine. You think these kinds of films are always high-budgeted? No. She's getting her feet wet and because of her name, has a chance to not only put someone on the map but make money for education like Michael would have loved. Do you really think she should start out with one of the biggest directors for movie ONE? Her name alone will sell this and showcase her gift as she grows and develops in the business. She wants to start at base one and build. Not start at the very top. This is a test. Stop shooting her down and support the girl. Damn. You know what..hunny...i won't argue because this is one subject that we obviously won't see eye to eye ever...i will just sit back and say i told you so and about why i don't like katherine.. Signing her son's kids in a life long contract ....with that GAY PORN producer Howard mann....and parading the KIDS around that scam of a charity heal the world going on today show to promote only for MJ estate to SUE and shut the charity down for fraud ..all because she was receiving a 50k ..month check from this porn producer ....the contracts ..and everything leaked..i am not making this up MJ kids are bound by contract ..to make appearances etc....for example the michael forever tribute etc..what sorta guardian does that..,but i am sure you will find a reason for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 You know what..hunny...i won't argue because this is one subject that we obviously won't see eye to eye ever...i will just sit back and say i told you so and about why i don't like katherine.. Signing her son's kids in a life long contract ....with that GAY PORN producer Howard mann....and parading the KIDS around that scam of a charity heal the world going on today show to promote only for MJ estate to SUE and shut the charity down for fraud ..all because she was receiving a 50k ..month check from this porn producer ....the contracts ..and everything leaked..i am not making this up MJ kids are bound by contract ..to make appearances etc....for example the michael forever tribute etc..what sorta guardian does that..,but i am sure you will find a reason for this If this contract is true, and the Estate owns all of Michael's belongings from his music to his image, where is the legal contest of it? Katherine is virtually powerless against the Estate, so how can it not be overturned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 If this contract is true, and the Estate owns all of Michael's belongings from his music to his image, where is the legal contest of it? Katherine is virtually powerless against the Estate, so how can it not be overturned? l guess you haven't heard about the estate various lawsuits against Howard mann....Katherine business partner..over the use of his imagine likeness etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungeon Dragon Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 THAT CHILD LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THE JACKSONS AT ALL !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 l guess you haven't heard about the estate various lawsuits against Howard mann....Katherine business partner..over the use of his imagine likeness etc I have heard and so in no-time he will be a non-factor. No doubt she was given bad advice and sucked into signing the contract. I still love and respect my mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 You know what..hunny...i won't argue because this is one subject that we obviously won't see eye to eye ever...i will just sit back and say i told you so and about why i don't like katherine.. Signing her son's kids in a life long contract ....with that GAY PORN producer Howard mann....and parading the KIDS around that scam of a charity heal the world going on today show to promote only for MJ estate to SUE and shut the charity down for fraud ..all because she was receiving a 50k ..month check from this porn producer ....the contracts ..and everything leaked..i am not making this up MJ kids are bound by contract ..to make appearances etc....for example the michael forever tribute etc..what sorta guardian does that..,but i am sure you will find a reason for this There seems to be a double standard when it comes to reasoning within the MJ fan community. The last 15 to 20 years of Michael's life was a revolving door of shady characters and people looking to (and ultimately did) leech off of him (For example Marc Shaffel the GAY PORN producer that somehow found his way into Michael's inner circle). Michael is dead because of these same shady characters (whether it be the Arvizos whose allegations basically killed Mike 4 years before he actually died physically...or Conrad Murray, who cared more about money and recording his inebriated patient, than to making sure he had the proper medical equipment to administer something like propofol...or AEG who cared more about getting Mike on that stage in London than intervening when something was OBVIOUSLY going on with Michael at the time). Why is it so difficult for others to understand that Katherine and the other Jacksons are dealing with the same shady characters that made their into Michael's life...and are after the family because of the money that can be made now that Michael is gone. Instead of the misplaced HATE...why don't we support the family as they sort their way through all the shady characters, just as Michael tried to, but ultimately couldn't do. *edit* And you're using an article from Roger Friedman to prove how "bad" the Jacksons are? Do you know who Roger Friedman is and how he basically made a career out of writing some of the most DISGUSTING articles about Michael in the last years of his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 looks like a porno cover to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 There seems to be a double standard when it comes to reasoning within the MJ fan community. The last 15 to 20 years of Michael's life was a revolving door of shady characters and people looking to (and ultimately did) leech off of him (For example Marc Shaffel the GAY PORN producer that somehow found his way into Michael's inner circle). Michael is dead because of these same shady characters (whether it be the Arvizos whose allegations basically killed Mike 4 years before he actually died physically...or Conrad Murray, who cared more about money and recording his inebriated patient, than to making sure he had the proper medical equipment to administer something like propofol...or AEG who cared more about getting Mike on that stage in London than intervening when something was OBVIOUSLY going on with Michael at the time). Why is it so difficult for others to understand that Katherine and the other Jacksons are dealing with the same shady characters that made their into Michael's life...and are after the family because of the money that can be made now that Michael is gone. Instead of the misplaced HATE...why don't we support the family as they sort their way through all the shady characters, just as Michael tried to, but ultimately couldn't do. *edit* And you're using an article from Roger Friedman to prove how "bad" the Jacksons are? Do you know who Roger Friedman is and how he basically made a career out of writing some of the most DISGUSTING articles about Michael in the last years of his life? Yes keep making excuses...How is that everybody and their MAMA ..so that the Mj forever tribute was a shady ass deal .....estate fired a strong as letter to them but still they adamantly went ahead with it and NOW its a big disgrace ..Lawsuite's flying here and there..And there is nothing right with Michael Jackson's Kids be contractually Bound to do this ...How the fuck can their guardian be putting them in deal's ???? ..the are obliged to make appearance's legally.that aint right there is no excuses for this .. Kid's who should be in school ...are busy signing Jackets so their Lazy uncles can make a quick buck another thing which turned out to be a scam Mj kids shouldn't have to be involved in such shady deals...Katherine and her lawyers tried to sabotage MJ's estate and the court almost Cut of her inheritance ...also a shady deal she did couple of years ago with J JACKSON SIGINg up mj for concerts he had no knowledge about and collecting money from promotors that caused a 20mill lawsuit that she now has to pay ..and Just borrowed money from the estate to help settle this this is a little example of the kind of stuff they have been getting involved in that lead to nothing but lawsuit and you want to tell me i should support the family and their very shady ways ... yes i know that rojer has wrote some terrible things..but so has almost every journalist ....that doesn't mean when he points out some very truthful facts ....that everybody can see coming ...its invalid ..Keep defending this fuckery all you want..MJ forever ..we called it its sad that the next disaster is not going to be a concert invent but .the exploitation of mjs kids that we already see happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Yes keep making excuses...How is that everybody and their MAMA ..so that the Mj forever tribute was a shady ass deal .....estate fired a strong as letter to them but still they adamantly went ahead with it and NOW its a big disgrace ..Lawsuite's flying here and there..And there is nothing right with Michael Jackson's Kids be contractually Bound to do this ...How the fuck can their guardian be putting them in deal's ???? ..the are obliged to make appearance's legally.that aint right there is no excuses for this .. Kid's who should be in school ...are busy signing Jackets so their Lazy uncles can make a quick buck another thing which turned out to be a scam Mj kids shouldn't have to be involved in such shady deals...Katherine and her lawyers tried to sabotage MJ's estate and the court almost Cut of her inheritance ...also a shady deal she did couple of years ago with J JACKSON SIGINg up mj for concerts he had no knowledge about and collecting money from promotors that caused a 20mill lawsuit that she now has to pay ..and Just borrowed money from the estate to help settle this this is a little example of the kind of stuff they have been getting involved in that lead to nothing but lawsuit and you want to tell me i should support the family and their very shady ways ... yes i know that rojer has wrote some terrible things..but so has almost every journalist ....that doesn't mean when he points out some very truthful facts ....that everybody can see coming ...its invalid ..Keep defending this fuckery all you want..MJ forever ..we called it its sad that the next disaster is not going to be a concert invent but .the exploitation of mjs kids that we already see happening It is not an excuse, but the truth...was Mike's life not a revolving door of shady characters that ultimately contributed to his death? The same leeches that dominated Michael's inner circle have now made their way to the family...why? Because they got all they could out of Michael and have now moved on to the family and leech off of them. Michael wasn't great at navigating his way through all of the shady characters in his life and now his own family are dealing with the same. Instead of misplaced hate, and saying the most disrespectful and outrageous things about the person that not only gave birth to Michael, but was one of the few people he trusted implicitly.... we should be supporting them and sending positivity their way in hopes that they finally get rid of the shady characters that Michael never could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 They should call Janet.....she seems to be the only one with a brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 It is not an excuse, but the truth...was Mike's life not a revolving door of shady characters that ultimately contributed to his death? The same leeches that dominated Michael's inner circle have now made their way to the family...why? Because they got all they could out of Michael and have now moved on to the family and leech off of them. Michael wasn't great at navigating his way through all of the shady characters in his life and now his own family are dealing with the same. Instead of misplaced hate, and saying the most disrespectful and outrageous things about the person that not only gave birth to Michael, but was one of the few people he trusted implicitly.... we should be supporting them and sending positivity their way in hopes that they finally get rid of the shady characters that Michael never could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reyna ♔ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Another reason why I LOVES my brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 well there is no need for me to go back and forth with you..knowing you ..you never back down .... and for not acknowledging my 2 attempted calls today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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