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Haha! Not on the list, but Lucy Lawless shares the same birthday with me. Gotta love Xena Warrior Princess!

LOL! This is true! I was at JX and it's a mess with the trolls there!

This is what official means! You know your rising, moon, and such. I'm also an Aries Pisces Moon, Libra Rising Famous Aries March 21, 1946 - Timothy Dalton - Actor March 21, 1962 - Matthew Broderick - Actor March 22, 1923 - Marcel Marceau - Mime March 22, 1930 - Pat Robertson - Religious Figure March 22, 1934 - Orrin Hatch - Politician March 23, 1910 - Akira Kurosawa - Director March 23, 1990 - Princess Eugenie - Royalty March 24, 1834 - William Morris - Designer March 25, 1867 - A, Toscanini - Conductor March 25, 1920 - Howard Cosell - Sports Figure March 25, 1928 - James Lovell - Astronaut March 25, 1940 - Anita Bryant - Singer March 25, 1934 - Gloria Steinem - Publisher March 25, 1942 - Aretha Franklin - Singer March 26, 1859 - A. E. Housman - Writer March 26, 1930 - Sandra Day O'Connor - Supreme Court March 26, 1931 - Leonard Nimoy - Actor March 26, 1934 - Alan Arkin - Actor March 26, 1940 - James Caan - Actor March 26, 1942 - Erica Jong - Writer March 26, 1944 - Diana Ross - Singer March 27, 1947 - Elton John - Musician March 27, 1942 - Michael York - Actor March 27, 1970 - Mariah Carey - Singer March 28, 1914 - Edmund Muskie - Politician March 28, 1928 - Zbignew Brzezinski - Political Leader March 28, 1955 - Reba McEntire - Singer March 29, 1916 - Eugene McCarthy - Politician March 29, 1937 - Billy Carter - President's brother March 29, 1943 - Eric Idle - Comedian March 29, 1954 - Karen A. Quinlan - Celebrity March 30, 1844 - Paul Verlaine - Writer March 30, 1853 - Vincent Van Gogh - Artist March 30, 1937 - Warren Beatty - Actor March 30, 1945 - Eric Clapton - Singer March 30, 1962 - Hammer - Singer March 31, 1934 - Richard Chamberlain - Actor March 31, 1934 - Shirley Jones - Actor March 31, 1935 - Herb Alpert - Musician March 31, 1933 - Christopher Walken - Actor March 31, 1945 - Gabe Kaplan - Actor March 31, 1948 - Rea Perlman - Actress April 1, 1815 - Otto Bismarck - Military April 1, 1883 - Lon Chaney - Actor April 1, 1886 - Wallace Beery - Actor April 1. 1932 - Debby Reynolds - Actress April 1, 1953 - Ali MacGraw - Actress April 2, 1805 - Hans C. Anderson - Writer April 2, 1908 - Buddy Epsen - Actor April 2, 1914 - Sir A. Guinness - Actor April 2, 1920 - Jack Webb - Actor April 2, 1948 - Emmylou Harris - Singer April 3, 1783 - Washington Irving - Writer April 3, 1924 - Marlon Brando - Actor April 3, 1924 - Doris Day - Actress April 3, 1926 - Gus Grissom - Astronaut April 3, 1942 - Marsha Mason - Actress April 3, 1942 - Wayne Newton - Singer April 3, 1944 - Tony Orlando - Singer April 4, 1906 - John Cameron Swayze - Newscaster April 4, 1928 - Maya Angelou - Writer April 5, 1837 - A. Swinburne Writer April 5, 1856 - Booker T. Washington - Educator April 5, 1900 - Spencer Tracy - Actor April 5, 1916 - Gregory Peck - Actor April 5, 1920 - Arthur Hailey - Writer April 5, 1937 - Colin Powell - Military April 6, 1874 - Harry Houdini - Magician April 6, 1892 - Lowell Thomas - Newscaster April 6, 1929 - Andre Previn - Conductor April 6, 1931 - Ram Dass - Guru April 6, 1937 - Merle Haggard - Singer April 6, 1937 - Billy Dee Williams - Actor April 6, 1944 - Michele Phillips - Singer April 7, 1928 - James Garner - Actor April 7, 1938 - Jerry Brown - Politician April 7, 1939 - Francis Ford Coppola - Director April 7, 1939 - David Frost - TV Host April 8, 1939 - Elizabeth C. Prophet - Religious Leader April 8, 1918 - Betty Ford - First Lady April 8, 1954 - Dennis Quaid - Actor April 8, 1963 - Julian Lennon - Beatle Son April 9, 1821 - C. Baudelaire - Writer April 9, 1892 - Mary Pickford - Actress April 9, 1926 - Hugh Hefner - Publisher April 10, 1932 - Omar Sharif - Actor April 10, 1938 - Don Meredith - Football Star April 10, 1952 - Steven Seagal - Actor April 11, 1923 - Harry Reasoner - Newscaster April 11, 1928 - Ethel Kennedy - Political Family April 11, 1939 - Louise Lasser Actresss April 12, 1930 - Tiny Tim - Entertainer April 12, 1947 - David Letterman - TV Host April 12, 1950 - David Cassidy - Singer April 13, 1743 - Thomas Jefferson - President US April 13, 1909 - Eudora Welty - Writer April 13, 1970 - Ricky Schroder - Child Actor April 14, 1934 - Loretta Lynn - Singer April 14, 1939 - Claudia Cardinale - Actress April 14, 1941 - Pete Rose - Sports Figure April 15, 1843 - Henry James - Writer April 15, 1933 - Elizabeth Montgomery - Actress April 15, 1958 - Roy Clark - Singer April 16, 1889 - Charles Chaplin - Comedian April 16, 1921 - Peter Ustinov - Actor April 16, 1924 - Henry Mancini - Composer April 16, 1935 - Bobby Vinton - Singer April 17, 1918 - William Holden - Actor April 17, 1951 - Olivia Hussey - Actress April 18, 1857 - Clarence Darrow - Attorney April 18, 1946 - Hayley Mills - Child Actress April 18, 1947 - James Woods - Actor April 19, 1933 - Jane Mansfield - Actress April 19, 1935 - Dudly Moore - Actor April 19, 1949 - Palma Picasso - Designer April 20, 1889 - Adolf Hitler - Dictator April 20, 1941 - Ryan O'Neal - Actor Of course there are plenty more...

TMZ (0) < Janet (2)

That's true! I can't say that I really pay too much attention to them, but some of the things that they say - I'm thinking are they living in a different reality? Did you just really say that? It doesn't seem logical to me.

We should change the title of this thread as Katherine is no longer missing. Maybe we should change it to - Katherine, TJ, The Estate, TMZ vs. Janet Jackson

Sometimes I wonder what else they're going to throw out there and then have to correct their story. TMZ (0) < Janet (2) And what will finally push for Janet to officially sue! I'm sure plenty of celebrities would love to have TMZ shut down!

+1 YES! One of the reasons why I love this woman!

LOL! They are about to go in... Oop. Maybe Paris will respond?

I'm glad that she does that as well. It keeps it to the point and she doesn't have to be sitting around doing interviews! Interviews should be for promotions for album launch, books, etc. Not these petty little craziness.

I posted these in the Katherine Jackson thread since it was relevant to it.

From Janet's lawyer - From Entertainment Tonight: Janet Didn't Ask Jackson Estate to Pay Mortgage By ANTOINETTE BUENO August 16, 2012 Janet Jackson's lawyer is speaking out about a report claiming that the Estate of Michael Jackson filed documents in the probate court requesting that the estate be permitted to "foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo." According to her lawyer Blair Brown, Janet's Las Vegas home has never even had a mortgage, and she purchased the home outright 10 years ago for her mother Katherine Jackson's use. Furthermore, Janet has "provided financial support unconditionally to her mother before and after Michael's death and will continue to do so," her representative states. Related: Randy, Janet & More Banned from Jackson Home Brown says that any implication that Jackson has demanded any payments from the estate, or needs payments from the estate, are "false and outrageous." "She is a successful artist and very high net worth individual who has never had financial problems. She has no need for any such payments from the estate," Brown states. Video: Janet Jackson Remembers Whitney Houston The Jackson family recently made headlines for their ongoing dispute over the validity of Michael Jackson's will -- which leaves everything in the pop star's lucrative estate to Katherine and his children. Five of Michael's siblings recently claimed that Michael's will was fake and they have demanded that the executors of his estate should resign. As taken by JX

From Janet's lawyer - From Entertainment Tonight: Janet Didn't Ask Jackson Estate to Pay Mortgage By ANTOINETTE BUENO August 16, 2012 Janet Jackson's lawyer is speaking out about a report claiming that the Estate of Michael Jackson filed documents in the probate court requesting that the estate be permitted to "foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo." According to her lawyer Blair Brown, Janet's Las Vegas home has never even had a mortgage, and she purchased the home outright 10 years ago for her mother Katherine Jackson's use. Furthermore, Janet has "provided financial support unconditionally to her mother before and after Michael's death and will continue to do so," her representative states. Related: Randy, Janet & More Banned from Jackson Home Brown says that any implication that Jackson has demanded any payments from the estate, or needs payments from the estate, are "false and outrageous." "She is a successful artist and very high net worth individual who has never had financial problems. She has no need for any such payments from the estate," Brown states. Video: Janet Jackson Remembers Whitney Houston The Jackson family recently made headlines for their ongoing dispute over the validity of Michael Jackson's will -- which leaves everything in the pop star's lucrative estate to Katherine and his children. Five of Michael's siblings recently claimed that Michael's will was fake and they have demanded that the executors of his estate should resign. As taken by JX

TMZ corrected their story once again mentioning that Katherine asked for the Estate to pay for Janet's mortgage (home in Las Vegas) - KATHERINE JACKSON Wants Estate to Pay for TP Not Janet's Mortgage EXCLUSIVE We have more info on Katherine Jackson's request for the Michael Jackson Estate to pay for expenses related to Janet Jackson's Las Vegas home, and it turns out toilet paper -- NOT mortgages -- is on her mind. As we previously reported, the Estate filed documents asking the court to allow the Executors to pay Katherine for "expenses relating to .... a residence in Las Vegas." We're told the residence is Janet Jackson's home. Fact is ... there's no need to cover any mortgage expenses, because we're told Janet doesn't have a mortgage -- she owns the home outright, but never spends time there. In fact, we're told she bought the home so Katherine could use it. And, she has provided various other forms of support for Katherine over the years. So what we reported initially -- that the Estate would pay part of the mortgage -- isn't the case. Sources connected to Katherine now tell us, Katherine wants the money because she incurs various expenses when she spends time at Janet's property. Our sources say the expenses include, food, cable, utilities, Internet, travel and even toilet paper. It's unclear why Katherine feels she's entitled to more money for things like food and toilet paper, because what she consumes and uses in Vegas she doesn't in L.A. As taken from JX

From Janet's lawyer - From Entertainment Tonight: Janet Didn't Ask Jackson Estate to Pay Mortgage By ANTOINETTE BUENO August 16, 2012 Janet Jackson's lawyer is speaking out about a report claiming that the Estate of Michael Jackson filed documents in the probate court requesting that the estate be permitted to "foot a portion of the bill on Janet's mortgage on her posh Las Vegas condo." According to her lawyer Blair Brown, Janet's Las Vegas home has never even had a mortgage, and she purchased the home outright 10 years ago for her mother Katherine Jackson's use. Furthermore, Janet has "provided financial support unconditionally to her mother before and after Michael's death and will continue to do so," her representative states. Related: Randy, Janet & More Banned from Jackson Home Brown says that any implication that Jackson has demanded any payments from the estate, or needs payments from the estate, are "false and outrageous." "She is a successful artist and very high net worth individual who has never had financial problems. She has no need for any such payments from the estate," Brown states. Video: Janet Jackson Remembers Whitney Houston The Jackson family recently made headlines for their ongoing dispute over the validity of Michael Jackson's will -- which leaves everything in the pop star's lucrative estate to Katherine and his children. Five of Michael's siblings recently claimed that Michael's will was fake and they have demanded that the executors of his estate should resign. As taken by JX

TMZ corrected their story once again mentioning that Katherine asked for the Estate to pay for Janet's mortgage (home in Las Vegas) - KATHERINE JACKSON Wants Estate to Pay for TP Not Janet's Mortgage EXCLUSIVE We have more info on Katherine Jackson's request for the Michael Jackson Estate to pay for expenses related to Janet Jackson's Las Vegas home, and it turns out toilet paper -- NOT mortgages -- is on her mind. As we previously reported, the Estate filed documents asking the court to allow the Executors to pay Katherine for "expenses relating to .... a residence in Las Vegas." We're told the residence is Janet Jackson's home. Fact is ... there's no need to cover any mortgage expenses, because we're told Janet doesn't have a mortgage -- she owns the home outright, but never spends time there. In fact, we're told she bought the home so Katherine could use it. And, she has provided various other forms of support for Katherine over the years. So what we reported initially -- that the Estate would pay part of the mortgage -- isn't the case. Sources connected to Katherine now tell us, Katherine wants the money because she incurs various expenses when she spends time at Janet's property. Our sources say the expenses include, food, cable, utilities, Internet, travel and even toilet paper. It's unclear why Katherine feels she's entitled to more money for things like food and toilet paper, because what she consumes and uses in Vegas she doesn't in L.A. As taken from JX

Her boobs are huge!

I love you! Thank you for all these rare performances! Janet!

Protecting an artist's legacy: a story about control Chadbourne & Parke LLP Daniel J. Scott USA August 10 2012 Janet Jackson’s “Control,” widely considered to be the album that launched her career into international stardom, begins with Janet speaking the words: “This is a story about control.” Over 25 years after the release of her breakthrough album, a new story about “control” is circulating around Janet Jackson — the story of her brother’s estate. Recently, the King of Pop’s estate and a Jackson family feud have been making headlines. At the center of all the controversy is the issue of control, and the two men charged with running Michael Jackson’s estate — entertainment attorney John Branca and music executive John McClain (coincidentally, McClain was instrumental in the production of Janet Jackson’s “Control”). While there are many issues to deal with in planning an artist’s estate and protecting his legacy, perhaps the most important is control. Control during the artist’s lifetime. An artist’s estate can be very complex, often consisting of a variety of assets. Included in those assets will be the companies that own and operate the artist’s brand (or legacy), controlling the artist’s likeness and image and the continued exploitation of the artist’s works. Any property that the artist owns directly, the artist controls absolutely during his lifetime. Typically, the artist is going to own very little in his own name. Instead, the artist will own his assets through a series of trusts and entities. This is done for a number of reasons, including: (i) management of business interests and personal investments; (ii) delegation of day-to-day responsibilities and administrative tasks; (iii) asset and liability protection; and (iv) estate, tax and wealth planning purposes. When the artist owns property or operates a business through an entity, direct control of that property or business is controlled by the entity. The artist retains indirect control through his ownership of that entity, while control of day-to-day business operations occurs at the company level. For example, shareholders of a corporation typically appoint directors, who appoint officers, who then hire employees. In addition, shareholder approval is often needed for certain major decisions, such as liquidating the company or changing its bylaws. Trusts come in a variety of shapes and sizes, but for purposes of this article, there are two general types of trusts: revocable trusts and irrevocable trusts. In the case of a revocable trust, the artist maintains ultimate control of the trust property through his ability to change the terms of the trust at any time or revoke the trust in its entirety and take back the trust assets. An irrevocable trust (usually set up for estate and tax planning reasons), on the other hand, cannot be changed or revoked by the artist once it is set up (although the artist may maintain certain other powers, such as the power to change who the trustees are), leaving the trustees in ultimate control of the trust assets. When the artist delegates day-to-day control over his personal assets and business interests through either the use of trusts or corporate entities, the artist becomes vulnerable to the possibility of bad decisions, mismanagement of assets, intentional wrongdoing and mistakes being made by those left in charge. However, steps can be taken to mitigate these risks, protect the artist as much as possible, and ensure his personal and business interest are well cared for. For example, having decisions made at the corporate and trust level by multiple individuals who need to agree on all decisions can be a good way of providing for a system of checks and balances and safeguarding against mistakes or intentional wrongdoing or abuse of power by any one person. This also allows for multiple and varied perspectives during the decision making process. In addition, the artist may want to require multiple signatures on checks above a certain amount. The artist may also require certain decisions (such as liquidation of a company or the sale of certain major assets) to require the artist’s consent or the consent of an independent third party. Involving an independent professional advisor who is not involved in business of the artist’s career, and keeping him or her informed of all developments, investment performance, etc. is also a good way of protecting the artist. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, regular meetings must be held with the artist in order to keep the artist informed of developments, investment performance, etc., so the artist can make any desired changes. Control after the artist’s death When the artist dies, his estate and legacy are controlled by the artist’s executors and trustees (if any). The artist’s executors are charged with administering the artist’s estate, paying all debts, taxes and other expenses associated with the artist’s estate and distributing the artist’s assets to the beneficiaries or trustees named under the artist’s will. Once all of that is done, and the estate is “closed” (which could take years), the executor’s job is done. If assets are distributed outright to family members or other beneficiaries, then those beneficiaries will control the assets they receive directly. If those assets are shares or interests in a company, then the beneficiary will have all of the rights (e.g., voting) of a direct owner of such company. For example, if five family members receive and equal share in Artist Inc., a company that owns the rights to various trademarks established by the artist during his lifetime, then each family member will have an equal 20 percent voting share in that company. If the company’s bylaws provide that directors are elected by a majority vote of the shareholders, then three family members will have to agree in order to appoint a new director. If assets are left in a trust, then the trustees of that trust have direct control over the assets. As with any trust created during the artist’s lifetime, the terms of the trust can either give the trustees very broad or limited powers. Some major issues that the terms of a trust should address are: (i) who should be in charge of trust investments and managing business interests (including those that will continue to control the artist’s brand or legacy); (ii) who should be in charge of making distributions to beneficiaries (this may be different than the individuals charged with managing investments and business interests); (iii) to whom can distributions be made; (iv) for what purposes can (or must) distributions be made; and (v) who, if anyone, can change the trustees or appoint successor trustees? After the artist’s death, the artist’s legacy is vulnerable to the same types of problems and improprieties mentioned above where the artist delegates control over personal assets and business interests during his lifetime, so the same protective measures should be taken. However, since the artist himself can no longer make changes to any trust or corporate structure after his death, who is left in control is of particular importance. Thus, the most important provision in a trust from a control perspective is how trustees are appointed and who, if anyone, has the power to change trustees after the artist’s death. For example, the artist may allow certain beneficiaries (either individually or by agreement) to remove and replace trustees. Another good idea is to have allow an independent third party (often called a “protector”) to remove and replace trustees. Finally, in order for the artist to provide a very clear explanation of the artist’s wishes and desires with respect to how the artist’s legacy should be administered after his death, the artist can leave a “letter of wishes”. While typically not a legally binding document, a letter of wishes can provide the artist’s trustees (who should already understand the artist’s wishes, and be chosen in part for that reason) with additional and more detailed guidance. In “Control,” Janet Jackson sings, “When it has to do with my life, I wanna be the one in control.” With proper planning during the artist’s lifetime, the artist can be in control and the artist’s legacy can be protected and preserved after the artist’s death. Source: Los Angeles and San Francisco Daily Journal http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.a....e4-532462a1a214 Thanks to JanetXone!

Loves it!

I definitely believe that as well, if they choose to identify. I don't know why people are so quick to judge when it comes to this.