Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Gay rights? If hiv/aids didn't exist would gay rights have progressed further in the 80's? or was the disease a necessary evil to highlight issues in the gay community? (I know hiv/aids isn't a gay disease either so no need to reply with that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 don't most ppl still connect HIV with being gay? If anything gays are still blamed for the disease oopss nvm, misread the question. I agree with Nuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Gay rights? If hiv/aids didn't exist would gay rights have progressed further in the 80's? or was the disease a necessary evil to highlight issues in the gay community? (I know hiv/aids isn't a gay disease either so no need to reply with that) Nope. They would have just found something else to be mad about. haters are haters are haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 don't most ppl still till this day connect HIV with being gay? If anything gays are still blamed for the disease Yeah I don't think its fair... but at the time it mostly affected gay men I believe... I watched this special on netflix a few weeks ago on gay sex in the 70's.... all of those orgies and people having unprotected sex... towards the end of that decade I believe thats when it hit hard... I always wondered if the government had something to do with it though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Baby Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yeah I don't think its fair... but at the time it mostly affected gay men I believe... I watched this special on netflix a few weeks ago on gay sex in the 70's.... all of those orgies and people having unprotected sex... towards the end of that decade I believe thats when it hit hard... I always wondered if the government had something to do with it though... Everybody was having unprotected orgies in the 70s...not just gays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Everybody was having unprotected orgies in the 70s...not just gays. I know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aed05 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 From my understanding, Gay rights were just starting to become a hot topic in the mid 70s, and many people felt like it would be the social movement of the near future (which it kinda was). However, when AIDS hit, I think the movement had to shift focus from civil rights, to social and medical awareness. We couldn't focus on gay marriage in the 80s because we were trying to make then president Regan admit that there was an epidemic killing thousands of people. he wouldn't even utter the words HIV/AIDS. Plus the disease itself killed off a generation of young artist, activist and intellectuals. It also forced a lot of gays back in the closet. So to answer your question, yes I think AIDS took the wind out of the sail of the gay rights in terms of civil rights. But on another level it actually united the community around a singular cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 From my understanding, Gay rights were just starting to become a hot topic in the mid 70s, and many people felt like it would be the social movement of the near future (which it kinda was). However, when AIDS hit, I think the movement had to shift focus from civil rights, to social and medical awareness. We couldn't focus on gay marriage in the 80s because we were trying to make then president Regan admit that there was an epidemic killing thousands of people. he wouldn't even utter the words HIV/AIDS. Plus the disease itself killed off a generation of young artist, activist and intellectuals. It also forced a lot of gays back in the closet. So to answer your question, yes I think AIDS took the wind out of the sail of the gay rights in terms of civil rights. But on another level it actually united the community around a singular cause. Well said... I kinda got that feeling too... Do you think the government made it? Because of the social movement that was taking place to slow it down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I don't think so I think if HIV was not a factor all those gay men with all that history and experience fighting back would be around to at least set an example you can fuck but fuck for a cause, I mean back in the 70's and early 80's it was a fuck free for all, I mean everyone was a "Nuk" getting knocked up like a teen HS drop out with big tits. I think progress could have been made but HIV made gays a reason to hate on beyond the sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Everybody was having unprotected orgies in the 70s...not just gays. I know they made the best porn too everybody having fluids sprayed inside them deep and leaking out....dicks really big dicks rammed up asses, two guys toppinng the same dude at once balls deep ....that was love....they don't know love today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I mean you could walk out your place in San Fran and get whatever you wanted in 10 minutes or less, fucking someone was like passing a blunt everybody had a hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Well said... I kinda got that feeling too... Do you think the government made it? Because of the social movement that was taking place to slow it down? no I think it just came up like disease have now, it's a strange one though because it's a virus with no cure, and no other virus I can think of has popped up like it, it's just this one virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 I know they made the best porn too everybody having fluids sprayed inside them deep and leaking out....dicks really big dicks rammed up asses, two guys toppinng the same dude at once balls deep ....that was love....they don't know love today. I hope you joking because you too old to think that random sex means someone loves you. Thats not love thats lust... love is when someone is there for you thru the good times or bad not about how many nuts you can spit on their back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I hope you joking because you too old to think that random sex means someone loves you. Thats not love thats lust... love is when someone is there for you thru the good times or bad not about how many nuts you can spit on their back. yes for some reason I don't have my emoticons showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 either way we all whores, I mean being gay would just mean you fuck a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 either way we all whores, I mean being gay would just mean you fuck a lot I'm not a whore... not all gay dudes are whores... I didn't have sex until I was 23 by choice. I waited until I found someone stable enough at the time to go all the way with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I'm not a whore... not all gay dudes are whores... I didn't have sex until I was 23 by choice. I waited until I found someone stable enough at the time to go all the way with. well the word all is bit strong, let's say most of these dudes aint about shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 well the word all is bit strong, let's say most of these dudes aint about shit I hope you truly heal from your past relationship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aed05 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Well said... I kinda got that feeling too... Do you think the government made it? Because of the social movement that was taking place to slow it down? I have no clue. But I've always found it weird that no one could pin point its inception. I've always suspected that there were cases of it before the 80s but they were never reported or thoroughly documented. But in all honesty, if it was revealed that it was made in a lab by a scientist, I wouldn't be the least surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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