bu. Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I have trouble believing he actually did . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 yeah, even his own diss track what about was written by him ... not to mention tonight's the night, he wrote it for Rod Stewart than 2 decades later Janet sampled it ... He also wrote the Happy Birthday song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 According to Jimmy, he said that Rene didn't pick up a pen or anything while they were in the studio.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I don't think he did at all, either. And I'm going with Jimmy's statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 According to Jimmy, he said that Rene didn't pick up a pen or anything while they were in the studio.. And he didn't. The only time ppl use that mug is when they want to diss Janet . Janet and her team only used him to come up with album themes, that's all he was good for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 And he didn't. The only time ppl use that mug is when they want to diss Janet . Janet and her team only used him to come up with album themes, that's all he was good for OOP! I don't understand some people say that he gets credit for Janet's success after RN. I don't think he was that integral; especially on the VR. He may have had a theme, but Janet, Jimmy, and Terry did most of the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 OOP! I don't understand some people say that he gets credit for Janet's success after RN. I don't think he was that integral; especially on the VR. He may have had a theme, but Janet, Jimmy, and Terry did most of the work. True.. Tho his involvement was small, I wouldn't count him out of the equation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 True.. Tho his involvement was small, I wouldn't count him out of the equation He's not part of the equation..or he just got cancelled out on both sides.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He's not part of the equation..or he just got cancelled out on both sides.. He was apart of it then lol..b4 he just got canceled out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 OOP! I don't understand some people say that he gets credit for Janet's success after RN. I don't think he was that integral; especially on the VR. He may have had a theme, but Janet, Jimmy, and Terry did most of the work. Exactly. True.. Tho his involvement was small, I wouldn't count him out of the equation He had a theme and that really helped bringing the music alive but ppl refer to him as the hand behind Janet's success. They all start with "If she wasn't MJ's sis" when they want to discredit her but when that doesn't work they run to "Rene got all the job done that's why she sucks now". Janet's music does lack a theme, that has been 1 of the problems of her last albums but her laziness has nothing to do with Rene's "song writing" abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He was apart of it then lol..b4 he just got canceled out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Exactly. He had a theme and that really helped bringing the music alive but ppl refer to him as the hand behind Janet's success. They all start with "If she wasn't MJ's sis" when they want to discredit her but when that doesn't work they run to "Rene got all the job done that's why she sucks now". Janet's music does lack a theme, that has been 1 of the problems of her last albums but her laziness has nothing to do with Rene's "song writing" abilities Lol that is true! The Jackson name helped but her success was brought on by her.. Not because of MJ... Her father had more to do with Janet's success than MJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Lol that is true! The Jackson name helped but her success was brought on by her.. Not because of MJ... Her father had more to do with Janet's success than MJ AMEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yes, he did. Y'all will deal and praise Legendzondo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yes, he did. Y'all will deal and praise Legendzondo. .... Babs is on that Whitney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexus97 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Yes, he did. Y'all will deal and praise Legendzondo. :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He's not part of the equation..or he just got cancelled out on both sides.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 It funny when i argue with people who want to discredit janet they start with If it werent for the Jackson Name Then She was riding on MJ Success Then without Jimmy Jam and Terry she wouldn't be shit !! Then Rene wrote all her shit .. smh When this comes from a mariah ,whitney stan though i like mimi and nippy i respond with Just like how mariah being a stripper discovered by tommy mottola and fucking him got her all those records sold and whitney .how sucking clive davids dick did wonders for her career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.omner Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He might not have been in the studio but he was with Janet privately and probably discuss topics, issues, lyrics, etc. He directed two of her fabulous videos. I don't doubt that he's creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Then without Jimmy Jam and Terry she wouldn't be shit !! That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard!!! That could apply to any artist... From Elvis to Lady Gaga... That's the producer's job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He has co-writing credits on all of the tracks minus TTN. His contributions to Janet can not be denied though. Janet has said that he has been helping with her projects since RN1814. You can clearly see him developing concepts and ideas on the RN1814 film during the RN practice, as well as MYM and TK. Janet also said if she wants his help, she'll ask. But she prefers to do things on her own. He also had a hand in directing the janet. era videos, namely TTWLG. But the album and the whole concept are her ideas, she said she had the idea for the album while on tour in 1990, and she said she wrote all of the lyrics and melodies to the janet. album herself. It wasn't until the fall out that Rene started making allegations that he was a integral part of her success. When in reality he was not much of a factor as he thinks he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He has co-writing credits on all of the tracks minus TTN. His contributions to Janet can not be denied though. Janet has said that he has been helping with her projects since RN1814. You can clearly see him developing concepts and ideas on the RN1814 film during the RN practice, as well as MYM and TK. Janet also said if she wants his help, she'll ask. But she prefers to do things on her own. He also had a hand in directing the janet. era videos, namely TTWLG. But the album and the whole concept are her ideas, she said she had the idea for the album while on tour in 1990, and she said she wrote all of the lyrics and melodies to the janet. album herself. It wasn't until the fall out that Rene started making allegations that he was a integral part of her success. When in reality he was not much of a factor as he thinks he was. i meant to give you a +1... my bad.. can someone even it out plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He has co-writing credits on all of the tracks minus TTN. His contributions to Janet can not be denied though. Janet has said that he has been helping with her projects since RN1814. You can clearly see him developing concepts and ideas on the RN1814 film during the RN practice, as well as MYM and TK. Janet also said if she wants his help, she'll ask. But she prefers to do things on her own. He also had a hand in directing the janet. era videos, namely TTWLG. But the album and the whole concept are her ideas, she said she had the idea for the album while on tour in 1990, and she said she wrote all of the lyrics and melodies to the janet. album herself. It wasn't until the fall out that Rene started making allegations that he was a integral part of her success. When in reality he was not much of a factor as he thinks he was. For mother wanted to do it all by herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 he might have had a few good ideas here and there and may have put in some input...but i doubt that he was involved in the actual writing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Enjoi Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I think he helped create some of the conceptual aspects of the album but in terms of actually sitting down and penning shit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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