Aquaria Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Now that the fashion world has had a few days to digest Kanye West's Paris debut — which, despite its disappointing content, was still the most hyped show of the week, if not the entire season — Eric Wilson aptly appraises its fallout in today's Times. His conclusion? The clothes were pretty awful, but not so bad that Kanye's fashion career could be pronounced dead on arrival (or, we might add, to keep Anna Dello Russo from borrowing an outfit posthaste). Per Wilson's interviews, here are fashion folks' reactions:Carine Roitfeld: "I’m sure he knows what he did wrong and what he did right ... He tried hard, and he wants to learn."Joe Zee: "If you get it all right on the first shot, where do you go from there?"Long Nguyen: "There are wishes, and there are realities ... I feel bad, actually, that there wasn’t anything to grab on to. But you can’t just dump some fox fur on a runway and call it luxury."Anna Wintour: "Ask someone else." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Kanye West, Designer (Yawn)PARISAT the after-party for his first runway show here on Saturday night, Kanye West, even before the reviews came out, made an obscenity-laced speech in which he complained about people treating his aspiration to be a serious fashion designer as a joke, and said he had taken out loans to hire the best models, designers and location.“I gave you everything that I had,” he said, one of his few printable remarks.If that is true, Mr. West faces bigger obstacles in life than credit-card debt. His show was described by those who attended as, at best, a disappointment, and yet the rapper could be found almost everywhere during Paris Fashion Week defending himself.Models in Paris wear creations by the rapper Kanye West.Francois Mori / Associated PressAt a dinner party in Azzedine Alaïa’s kitchen on Sunday, Mr. West complained rather bitterly to those assembled that he meant for those sausage-casing dresses, the sagging trousers and the swimming jackets dripping with sparkles and strips of fuzzy bits to fit the way that they did, though everyone else seemed to read them as a failure in tailoring. At the Céline show, he engaged Joe Zee, the creative director of Elle, in a lengthy dialogue, loud enough for everyone around them to hear, in which he noted, as one example, that he did not very much appreciate the criticism of his decision to show fur for summer.“All I said was congratulations,” Mr. Zee said afterward. “I wasn’t even there.”What was most confounding about Mr. West’s behavior, after years of obsessive study of the industry, was that he demonstrated very little understanding of how he might actually be perceived by retailers and editors who have a vast amount of experience at detecting utter nonsense. And he had promised them so much, telling the fashion director of one magazine, for example, that design was more important to him than music, and that he planned, with his runway debut, to “change the course of fashion.”“There are wishes, and there are realities,” said Long Nguyen, the style director of Flaunt magazine. “I feel bad, actually, that there wasn’t anything to grab on to. But you can’t just dump some fox fur on a runway and call it luxury.”Carine Roitfeld, the former French Vogue editor, said that for a first show it was not all that bad. “I’m sure he knows what he did wrong and what he did right,” she said. “He tried hard, and he wants to learn.”Anna Wintour said, “Ask someone else.”Mr. West will undoubtedly get another chance, and everyone will show up. Though he insisted he wanted to put an end to the conversation about a rapper-turned-designer, and that he had known he was “the one” since he was a boy, the fact that he is a celebrity is the reason that so many high-level people are even paying attention to him.The front row at his show rather vividly underscored that utter lack of self-awareness, not that Mr. West, through his various tirades and his comment this summer that people look at him “like I’m Hitler,” has ever misled us on this point. Here, the Olsen twins were seated in the same row as Lindsay Lohan, and that was disturbing. Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, through their Elizabeth and James and Row collections, have established themselves as credible designers without making spectacles of themselves.At the other extreme, Ms. Lohan almost single-handedly destroyed a French ready-to-wear label during a single season, as artistic adviser to Emanuel Ungaro two years ago. You wonder if Mr. West knows the difference.His debut landed him a place somewhere in the middle: not quite a disaster, but not the work of a serious designer, either. Still, Mr. Zee said not to count him out just yet.“If you get it all right on the first shot, where do you go from there?” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 im all for being different and trying new things but his whole collection is a fail. the shit is stale, one dimensional and ugly. it wouldn't hurt him to add a splash of color here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 His collection isn't THAT bad but future President Kanye West isn't a fashion designer. He can't excel at everything im not sure why he didn't just partner with an already established designer then again, I'm sure it's difficult to find someone who would want to partner with Mr. Westim sure these high fashion execs are being petty and not inviting Kanye to the party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I'd like to hear what his wife thought.. No , her REAL thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 His collection isn't THAT bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Did you go through his photos? Mostly misses but too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 "Ask someone else" the new fall shade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 yes i did. And my thoughts are parallel to the "experts". Its drab AF . But its all subjective nonetheless so whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 maybe his stuff will make the discount racks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 yes i did. And my thoughts are parallel to the "experts". Its drab AF . But its all subjective nonetheless so whatever you didn't like a thing? I think there were 22 outfits. I liked like, 3 or 4 Have you seen the other designers? Some of their styles are but they have more hits than misses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 maybe his stuff will make the discount racks Might as well send it packing to the thrift store because looking at the sales, that's the only way he is going to get some coins.I love the color pallet of his collection but i really hate the homeless look he is going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'd like to hear what his wife thought.. No , her REAL thoughts. Right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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