*~WhitePicketDreams~* Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 You did too much. :lmao: :lmao: No i didn't. Anyway don't try to change the subject....respect YellLegendina. Female TOF. If anyone is like TOF, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 :lmao: :lmao: No i didn't. Anyway don't try to change the subject....respect YellLegendina. If anyone is like TOF, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*~WhitePicketDreams~* Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 :lol: Shut up. Yes! @ people draggin the beyonce stan. :mellow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If anyone is like TOF, it's you. Please. I'm always calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*~WhitePicketDreams~* Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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*~WhitePicketDreams~* Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 That chile stay doin the most..look who she stans for.. *looks at 5head in your avatar* Bye gerl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanka Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 She's pretty good. Sometimes her phrasing is a little weird, but overall still good. In the beginning of the "Weak" performance when she tells the band to speed up a bit, VERY good sign of musicianship and a good ear. You don't want to sing faster than the band is playing. Her lower register could use some work in the resonance department. Belting is good but it could benefit from some training. Overall, she's good. She really is. she was only 17 or 18 when she did those sessions too. I think by the time she's in her mid to late 20's she'll be a force. you agree? well, that If she's still here doing music... cause... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodienda76 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Beyonce is definitely a great singer. I just think she's waaaaaay overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eli's_rhythm Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Beyonce's technique IS better than Whitney's: Whitney's first flaw was singing without warming up. STUPID decision. As you know, the vocal chords are a muscle. Just like you have to stretch before you run, you have to warm up before you sing. Whitney didn't do that. So she'd go out on stage and be belting Es and Fs like her life was on the line. Often times you'd see her tilting her head back to reach notes. By doing that, she didn't have proper breath support. So those notes she'd be straining to reach and they wouldn't be resonate or have much power to them. They were often faint. What Whitney had is a great tone and excellent vocal agility. She understands her voice.Listen to Whitney on "I Wanna Dance With Somebody": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZmlSInBtk#t=4m48s EXCELLENT belt. Supported with breath. Resonate. Powerful. Now listen to Whitney hit the same note 6 years later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUcrijzXbY#t=3m27s The belt is thinner, not as resonate, and she backs off the note because she doesn't have the breath to support it. The note is also a little darker. All this is a result of having not so great vocal technique. When you have good vocal technique, your voice she actually get better, not worse. Hence why ppl like Donna Summer can still sing very well. Now the problem with Mariah is that thin ass whistle register. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz5JR0xxc_Q The whistles are out of tune, or her pitch is off, one of the two. The third whistle at 2:43 is an utter mess and Mariah knows it as she shows it on her face at 2:46 - 2:52. That note was not cut short intentionally. She lost it due to no air to support that whistle. Plus, her whistles are airy. When you sing in the whistle register, it shouldn't be airy. When you do, that means you're not using full voice and you're straining a bit. Listen to Minnie Riperton sing in whistle (hers is perfect btw): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXTQWIaKTKs#t=2m25s. Great whistle. Resonate. Powerful. You can hear she has control over it, and she could go up or down the scale if she wanted to. Plus, Mariah's belts are not as strong as Beyonce's. My friend calls them "shouts". Mariah also has a problem with singing beyond her tessitura. And I think Mariah is an alto trying to sing soprano (would have to double check). Her lower register is TOO good for her to be a soprano. Now with Beyonce, her singing is near perfect. She's almost ways pitch perfect. She warms up before she hits the stage, as seen in the American Idol dressing room video. She doesn't sing beyond her tessitura, because that will destroy her voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf2Xau4Qvwk#t=2m27s very good control. Now listen to her do the same run just years later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KIaGF3APAI#t=1m35s, even BETTER. Her voice is more resonate and has more control and isn't as shaky as the first. Beyonce's chest range is better than Mariah's and Whitney's in that she doesn't force out her notes. She uses her diaphragm to support her notes and give her power. That's why she can do runs so effortlessly. Her head voice is good, and she knows not too sing too high in it because it's pushing her voice a little bit. She doesn't really go beyond C6 too much when she does head voice. So in terms of technique, Beyonce > Whitney > Mariah I think people were confusing "ability" with "technique," and I think you're right. Bey probably has better technique than Whit and Mimi (I know NOTHING of technique, but considering the states of Whitney and Mariah's voices today, it would be hard to disagree. And yes, I know that has more to do with alcohol and smoking/drugs than incorrect singing.) However, do you think Beyoncé is more naturally gifted than those women? I absolutely do not. Beyoncé's range isn't very impressive. Her power is good, but not Whitney good, and her lower register is weak next to Mariah's (as you noted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I think people were confusing "ability" with "technique," and I think you're right. Bey probably has better technique than Whit and Mimi (I know NOTHING of technique, but considering the states of Whitney and Mariah's voices today, it would be hard to disagree. And yes, I know that has more to do with alcohol and smoking/drugs than incorrect singing.) However, do you think Beyoncé is more naturally gifted than those women? I absolutely do not. Beyoncé's range isn't very impressive. Her power is good, but not Whitney good, and her lower register is weak next to Mariah's (as you noted). These ppl don't know shit about "ability" or "technique", so them telling me I'm wrong is hilarious in itself. Whitney and Beyonce are the most gifted vocally. Mariah has vocal nodules, so she was doomed from birth. Beyonce's range is good for the type of soprano that she is. Whitney is a contralto with the same vocal range. But Beyonce's C3 in "Halo" is sooo good that I believe she can go lower than C3. Beyonce's voice isn't as powerful as Whitney's because it's slightly thinner. And her lower register is just as good as Mariah's, although she doesn't use it that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The problem with Beyonce is she's too technical. She's so caught up in singing the note that the emotion just isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The problem with Beyonce is she's too technical. She's so caught up in singing the note that the emotion just isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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