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Actually, IMO, these are the best dancers since damn near the oldies. These dancers are individually BEAST!!! They need to be utilized. If you go watch them on YT you will see this is some of Janet's best hiring in a very long time.

Yet she killed all her old choreography? Maybe you all are missing the point. It's not whether or not Janet had the stamina that's the problem, it's the breakdown was whack. The choreography that followed, old & some new was better & she killed it. BIU was weak as fuck, it's not really a Janet issue as much as it's a choreographer issue. Stop trying to unnecessarily defend some shit with points that no one is arguing. I don't think we're expecting Janet to jump off chairs for PP. Which ironically, her PP performance with the light box was much more appealing than damn near any PP performance she's done live, post RN tour. So you see how that works? Just innovation it goes a long way doesn't take much. She shook her hair in a blinking box and it turned out better than the BIU breakdown. There was more stamina in that box than there was in that breakdown & that's after at least 5-7 songs, with no break.

I went to the Atlanta show. She didn't sing a number of songs live. No Sleeep specifically is not live and I'm on the fence about IGL. BIU is 10000000% not live I watched her rehearsals in Atlanta & she doesn't sing a good number of songs live. She was talking to dancers during "live" songs. That later played. The choreo was weak because the choreo was weak. Not age, not cause she's singing live, not because it's the beginning, not because she's maintaining stamina, just weak because it was. I love the beginning but it was weak during the break down. You can sense someone's energy & if they feel like letting loose. We have all been able to see Janet's energy & know when she's really feeling something, so why when someone says they sense that in the dancers it's hard to tell? Come on with unnecessary sensitivity. We all love her and we're all fans. Various opinions. She did a great job this tour and on other choreo BIU was a weak breakdown.

on the BET top 25 countdown. It was either for IF or RN but I believe IF which is why she doesn't do the arm part it hurts her shoulders when she does it, she said.

I want to see more moves that are fluid and well executed. Things like this http://instagr.am/p/BDmqYbUlkpo/ http://instagr.am/p/BDFHbBNFktz/ http://instagr.am/p/BCwpPPolkmS/

I want the choreo & video to live up to the suspense. That's my biggest thing. For me Janet last true respectable choreography was Make Me, because it involved more than sass & arm whips. Her doing that jump part & more with her legs made me happy to see. I know her choreo could be more fluid & full body & I just want that for Dammn Baby, it can be fluid & kind to her body. I know with age she has mentioned having some pain in certain parts of her body, knees and shoulders but there's ways to do a lot without doing too much. I wasn't impressed with the BIU breakdown on tour.

Yea it's going to be Make Me pt.2 me & a friend had already put out that prediction. A bunch of walking and sassy angles it looks like lol. She's building so much suspense, and God knows I want the choreo & video to live up to the hype.

She just keeps adding gifs, she gone release this whole damn video gif by gif lol

I don't know about leave us for good, but I did think about the timing of that announcement & then it's revolving around the single or coinciding with the single. It's all good press moves. I know people will disagree but it does make sense. Very fitting.

For that to be from Dammn Baby the only thing I can think of is her saying "I gotta hear me" but it doesn't look like it, unless it's been sped up slightly

This is the shit! I love everything about this, this (if I must be honest) is one of her best promotions she's done this era. And shout out to her using all the old symbols moving into the bird...it makes me kinda hype to think about that artistry. I remember how her symbolism was something I looked forward to because of the depth behind the symbols. This era, the bird symbol speaks to specific things in my own life which made these things feel serendipitous for me, along with other symbolic things she's used this era. But this is really dope.

How can you make that out. They're not saying anything it looks like to me

She's about to release Dammn Baby

So Dammn Baby will be released soon.

I like those adlibs too lol, ironically I felt like it was one of the first times in a long time that the "excited" adlibs did not sound forced. It actually sounded like she was feeling it. It's just the actual verses that kinda get to me, some times I like it but they can sound choppy & the words unclear or maybe even the tone. I love the chorus though, and even some times I can vibe with the verses they're just interesting.

TMA does feel like pop, but I'm not crazy about the vocals during the verses. They feel choppy and a little weird to me. The chorus though is what makes the song to me. I used to skip it often but I do play it more now from time to time. 2 B Loved is my shit, and it has a very dope bounce. I have had it on repeat a few times.

For me since the beginning I've been waiting to see the plot for 5/16/16 - the major 50th. That's all so symbolic. I've thought there would be something lingering around it. Promotionally it makes great sense. It always has to me, and Im hoping its capitalized on. Also with the random tweet saying she misses and loves us, it seems like she wants to remain noticed to some degree. It's not above her to be ghost

See I personally feel that we're making it seem just as big as the news did. I honestly think Janet along with everyone involved felt it would be iconic moment with media blitz but it would blow over. It would leave people talking & be one of the best SB moments in history. Janet being the sexy artist she was, it was right up her alley. I mean even though it wasn't on the same PRIMETIME platform, she simulated sex with a fan during concerts. This was common knowledge of who Janet is. She was able to be sexy, risqué, & still a lady. This was supposed to fall right into that same vein. I don't think she opposed or was apprehensive ever about it. I think they all probably thought how can we make this shit climax? It went perfect with the lyrics and the performance. It was excellent & it wasn't nearly as offensive as some of the commercials can be. All it comes down to was the media using her like a pawn, and she said she felt that's what was going on & it was. Seriously, a titty doesn't come close to the mind blowing things tv allows. Janet made a decision that backfired, but I don't feel she did anything "out of character" or wrong. He had her naked by the end of the song. End of story lol. End scene.

Yea I see that, and I don't think most fans want to believe she played the part in her own downfall. But the issue is not what she did in my opinion it's how they responded. Janet since the VR has had some reference to her breast & whenever people would respond negatively about it she would always brush it off like, "a breast"?! I remember specifically there being a behind the scenes of the VR tour where some article wrote about her breast/piercing on one of the covers and she said "Yea those people have no lives...honestly, a breast?!" And she continued to push that envelope...shit all the way back to the iconic Rolling Stones cover. Her breast had been a centerpiece. She was team #FreeTheNipple while most of this generation was still sucking one. She knew what she was doing, she didn't expect or deserve the response.

Because there is a conspiracy to do something does not mean it cannot be true. Conspiracy is not synonymous with lie, and neither is the word theory. Something can be delivered to you as "truth" and be a complete lie.

All I can say is look at the pictures. Where is the supposed fabric? Why was it such a clean tear but there is no signs of fabric at all? Why is it perfectly aligned under her breast with no support around it? He would have damn near yanked her ring off as hard as he would have had to pull in order to pull an entire bra covering off. It's literally just a buttoned hoster.

People it's a conversation. Sensitive for Janet maybe but it doesn't have to be for us. It's not that serious to be all up in arms by. We're just talking. Whether it's old or not.

Look at the first picture where the button is becoming undone, where is the red bra? Or even the beginning of the tears...or fabric for it on that side of the titty? The buttons are perfectly places to be snatched off. That was not a last minute detail. Look at the other pictures after it comes off...it's a perfect rip. Literally perfect. Where is the fabric that was supposedly torn off? It's nowhere to be found. It's a clean rip?

I guess artist talking about the things executives do to them is not respectable enough. I understand you're not a person who believes much of the unseen, and for you if it's not black and white in and spelled out its not "likely" but this business is no joke and they definitely move like a mob. They also have operate one of the most influential tools to man and that's the media/mass communications. They set the tone for some of the largest spread ideologies and conditioning & that's not theoretical that's factual. Nonetheless if it's hard for you to believe or "conspiracy" is a more comfortable word for you I respect that. Also, absolutely Janet will lie to Oprah. She did it for her marriage in an effort to protect her privacy and career image...she would do it for her career again when it's on the line. If Janet came out and said, yes I exposed my breast on purpose that would have tanked her, especially after having been thrown out in front of the backlash to stand by herself. Damn that shit Janet claims was supposed to happen. That's the clean up story. Exactly what happen is what was supposed to happen. It was going to be lights out enough to make people wonder if they saw it & then boom that's it. I remember seeing it clear as day, and yelling that was her titty! Nonetheless, it doesn't make Janet a sell out to do PR clean up, it makes her a sell out to bow to the powers that be for a check & industry "forgiveness". MTV is a network that's known for the raunch they weren't morally opposed to the stunt it just backfired. HD pictures prove Janet had no such intention for a red bra to cover her tit. It's just not there.

I wholeheartedly think Janet knew what she was going to do going into that performance. It was going to be the big BANG for her show & had it gone as planned people would have brushed over it & maybe even praised her some for the shock value & it still be seemingly tasteful because it was so brief and the nipple was covered. I think everyone involved knew it was going to happen, but the backlash was done to use her as a pawn. Janet's face only went that way because it was a part of the act. I'm going to try and find those HD pix, there is literally no tear from her bra. She had nothing there but titty & buttons. I think Janet did not sell out, because she has a level of dignity & pride. I think she knew what the powers that be were at & was like fuck that, they're not going to break me down to beg them. Also, It was very political as well. But that's not the first time we've seen Janet's titty. She had been easing it out since the opening of the all for you tour with her running through the jungle & waterfall.