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They made a list of the Top 250 women in music during the 20th Century

Janet is 249.. In front of her employee JLo

Meanwhile Janet's contemporaries are sitting in the top ten :blink:

http://m.voices.yahoo.com/top-250-female-singers-20th-century-12424269.html

Full list below

As a singer, I have been obsessing about vocalists since before I started grade school. The obsession started with Whitney Houston, Julie Andrews, Andrea McArdle, and Crystal Gayle. All of them had such different voices and I studied them meticulously. Now, as an adult I am a songwriter, performer and vocal teacher and want to learn even more. I know there are voices that I haven't heard that deserve to be remembered. Researching each decade of the 20th century helped me discover some of these lost blues singers, musical theatre performers, and pop stars from yesteryear.

This list was helped in part by the following web sites: Rate Your Music, Wikipedia, Past perfect, Amazon, Cynamans, UGO, Listverse, Rocklist, Essence, Timout, Acclaimed Music, and Youtube. I hope that you enjoy discovering new singers and fighting about who should really be in the top 50.

250. Jennifer Lopez

249. Janet Jackson

248. Tiffany

247. Shirley Temple

246. Ginger Rogers

245. Gwen Verdon

244. Myoshi Umeki

243. K.D. Lang

242. Wilson Phillips

241. Jenny Berggren (Ace of Base)

240. Betty Carter

239. Cass Eliot

238. Sinead O'Connor

237. Deniece Williams

236. Debbie Gibson

235. Joan Baez

234. PJ Harvey

233. Susan Johnson

232. Kylie Minogue

231. LeeAnn Rimes

230. Bjork

229. Marie Osmond

228. Lorna Luft

227. Pat Suzuki

226. Vanessa Williams

225. Lilli Lehman

224. Irene Cara

223. Nina Gordon (Veruca Salt)

222. Mamie Smith

221. Helen Reddy

220. Taylor Dayne

219. Aimee Mann

218. Carmen Miranda

217. Lisa Loeb

216. Vaughn De Leath

215. Regine Velasquez

214. Spice Girls

213. Ani DiFranco

212. Elizabeth Frase

211. Sheena Easton

210. Madonna

209. Nikka Costa

208. Amy Grant

207. Clara Smith

206. Laura Branigan

205. Helen Kane

204. Lillian Nordica

203. Marianne Faithfull

202. Alannah Myles

201. Kirsten Flagstad

200. Brandy

199. Dinah Shore

198. Kim Carnes

197. Monica

196. Elaine Paige

195. Shirley Manson

194. Courtney Love

193. The Pointer Sisters

192. Linda Ronstadt

191. Jessica Simpson

190. Blanche Calloway

189. The Chordettes

188. Joan Osborne

187. Lesley Anne Warren

186. Sarah McLachlan

185. Joni Mitchell

184. Sade

183. Emmylou Harris

182. Sara Evans

181. Olivia Newton-John

180. Chrissie Hynde

179. Crystal Gayle

178. Trisha Yearwood

177. Alison Krauss

176. Toni Braxton

175. Diamanda Galas

174. Chita Rivera

173. Dusty Springfield

172. Jewel

171. Natalie Merchant

170. The Clark Sisters

169. Lesley Gore

168. Des'ree

167. Gwen Stefani

166. Melba Moore

165. Thelma Houston

164. Ronnie Spektor

163. Lee Ann Womack

162. Gertrude Lawrence

161. Diana Ross

160. Gloria Gaynor

159. Mary J Blige

158. Ida Cox

157. Tanya Tucker

156. Gackt Camui

155. Shania Twain

154. Anita Baker

153. Alanis Morisette

152. En Vogue

151. Tori Amos

150. Cyndi Lauper

149. The Crystals

148. TLC

147. Mae West

146. Teresa Brewer

145. Carly Simon

144. Fanny Brice

143. Dixie Chicks

142. Sheryl Crow

141. Patti Page

140. Petula Clark

139. Shakira

138. Ann Margaret

137. Mary Martin

136. Yolanda Adams

135. Loretta Lynn

134. Anne Brown (Porgy and Bess)

133. Yma Sumac

132. Minnie Riperton

131. Lulu

130. Jo Stafford

129. Barbara Mandrell

128. Judy Craig (The Chiffons)

127. Joanna Gleason

126. Grace Slick (Jefferson Airplane)

125. Annie Lennox

124. Sarah Brightman

123. Faith Evans

122. Linda Perry (4 Non Blondes)

121. Bette Midler

120. Joan Jett

119. Faith Hill

118. Judy Holliday

117. Dionne Warwick

116. The Andrews Sisters

115. CeCe Winans

114. Shirley Jones

113. Deborah Harry

112. Pearl Bailey

111. Andrea McArdle

110. Melissa Etheridge

109. Paige O'Hara

108. Reba McEntire

107. Shirley Ceasar

106. Betty Grable

105. Annette Hanshaw

104. Lauryn Hill

103. Pat Benatar

102. Doris Day

101. Mary Weiss (Shangri-las)

100. Dinah Washington

99. Betty Hutton

98. Susanna Hoffs (Bangles)

97. Jodi Benson

96. Tammy Wynette

95. Marie Fredricksson

94. Kelly Rowland

93. Judy Kuhn

92. Lucinda Williams

91. Diahann Carroll

90. Patti Smith

89. Angela Lansbury

88. Liza Minnelli

87. Vera Lynn

86. Kaye Ballard

85. Bonnie Raitt

84. Belinda Carlisle

83. Donna Summer

82. Kitty Wells

81. Little Eva

80. Karen Carpenter

79. June Carter Cash

78. Kay Starr

77. Elisabeth Schwarzkopf

76. Kitty Carlisle

75. Nanette Fabray

74. Stockard Channing

73. Bonnie Tyler

72. Idina Menzel

71. Ruth Etting

70. Dolly Parton

69. Anika Noni Rose

68. Kim Burrell

67. Sarah Vaughan

66. Lena Horne

65. Barbara Cook

64. Carol Channing

63. Rita Moreno

62. Betty Buckley

61. Shirley Owens (Shirelles)

60. Teena Marie

59. Eartha Kitt

58. Edith Piaf

57. Fiona Apple

56. Kristen Chenoweth

55. Stephanie Mills

54. Madeline Kahn

53. Sophie Tucker

52. Sandy Duncan

51. Deborah Cox

50. Carole King

49. Tracy Chapman

48. Debbie Reynolds

47. Marni Nixon

46. Nina Simone

45. Martha Reeves

44. Martina McBride

43. Josephine Baker

42. Mary Wells

41. Brenda Lee

40. Erykah Badu

39. Mahalia Jackson

38. Patsy Cline

37. Cher

36. Peggy Lee

35. Bernadette Peters

34. Julie Andrews

33. Stevie Nicks

32. Lea Salonga

31. Selena

30. Etta James

29. Ethel Merman

28. Patti Labelle

27. Ma Rainey

26. LaChanze

25. Gloria Estefan

24. Connie Francis

23. Chaka Khan

22. Billie Holiday

21. Roberta Flack

20. Bessie Smith

19. Heart (Ann & Nancy Wilson)

18. Ethel Waters

17. Jennifer Holliday

16. Rosemary Clooney

15. Tina Turner

14. Patti Lupone

13. Gladys Knight

12. Janis Joplin

11. Maria Callas

10. Beyonce Knowles

9. Barbra Streisand

8. Celine Dion

7. Audra McDonald

6. Judy Garland

5. Mariah Carey

4. Christina Aguilera

3. Whitney Houston

2. Aretha Franklin

1. Ella Fitzgerald

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The fact that Kylies one dimensional voice is ahead of Janet shwos this list is just cray. That thot doesn't know shit.

But the this thot is pretty accurate:

http://soletstalkabout.com/post/35643860274/there-is-a-difference-between-a-good-voice-and-a-good

There is a difference between a good voice and a good singer.

I made this little graphic to help you out. Click it for the fullsize version.

tumblr_mdfdoi4mfq1r0ftodo1_500.png

I’ll explain it later, but first the backstory.

I was hanging out with this guy who was trying to argue me up down and sideways that Adele is an amazing singer. I’ma tell you why she’s so popular: she has a great big black lady voice and she’s white. The End. Everything she’s doing is done a million times over every Sunday by the church ladies at New Bethel AME Zion Church of Christ Under an Elm Tree By The River. Still, she has a great tone to her voice that you can’t teach. She’s just born with that and she has a great voice. That doesn’t make her a great singer.

A great singer has great ears. All of the runs and melisma are possible because they have a great sense of pitch. They can hear the chords and sing all around, inside, and through them. Those interesting vocal runs just come out because they have great ears. On top of that, with vocal coaching and/or practice they can really hone their craft and do some amazing things.

A great voice is born, not made. You’re either born with a beautiful sound coming out of your mouth, or you’re not.

So I got bored watching the Walking Dead and made a little graphic. Left to right ranks great singing ability with the best being on the right. Bottom to top ranks great voices with the best being near the top. I graded everyone by Whitney Houston who, hands-down, had the best combination of natural-born-tone and exception singing ability.

Let’s break it down:

=============================================================

TOTALLY AVERAGE

Lady Gaga's voice is completely average, nothing special, and she's not the most musical person in the world either. Her melodies are all the same and her ad libs are almost non-existent.

=============================================================

BAD SINGERS WITH BAD VOICES

Rihanna had the misfortune to be born sounding like a billygoat with a cold, not that anyone minds with enough studio trickery surrounding it. Still, her voice is awful. She’s not the worst singer though. She can hit an ad lib every once in awhile and she’s (mostly) on key.

Katy Perry is loud, but her voice is a mixture of that Alanis-Morissette-yodel and someone being hit in the throat with a baseball bat. I thinks she may possibly be tone-deaf from the amount of off-key live performances there are on Youtube. You can’t be a great singer if you’re tone deaf.

Kylie Minogue's voice is fairly pleasant in a girlish, light-weight sort of way, perfect for the pop fluff she records. If she sticks to the melody — and only the melody — she's fine, but straying from the script is always a disaster. I'm Team Kylie as long as she sticks to fluffly pop songs, but that orchestral CD she just put out should be banned from the shelves.

=============================================================

GREAT SINGERS WITH BAD VOICES

Janet Jackson doesn’t have a bad voice, but there’s absolutely no heft to it at all. She’s been singing like a newborn kitten for thirty years now. Still, she has that Jackson ear for harmony and she always puts the note right where it needs to go.

Mary J. Blige is full of soul, and really awkward high notes. She sings with so much passion and emotion, it’s hard not to feel connected, but from a purely aural standpoint, her tone sounds painful sometimes.

Beyonce has more runs than just about anybody. Her ad libs are legendary. Guitarists bass their improv licks around Beyonce’s vocal runs. She can sing her butt off. But when she starts screaming like a banshee at you on a ballad, the only runs that need to happen are me running far away from the stereo.

Keke Wyatt is one of the best singers I have ever heard in my life. I’m in awe of the places she will take her voice with no preparation or forethought. She’s entirely self-taught and her pitch is amazing. I just wish her nigh notes didn’t feel like extreme sinus pressure.

=============================================================

BAD SINGERS WITH GREAT VOICES

Lana Del Rey has one of my favorite new voice in pop music. Her mid-range is nothing special, but when she’s down in contralto territory, she sings with this husky timbre that almost makes her music enjoyable. Too bad she sings with no emotion and all of her songs are monotonously boring.

Sade sings with an easy cool, always sounding like she’s on stage in a smoky lounge. Her voice is timeless, but I don’t think she’s ever sang an ad-lib in her life and most of her records only have the most basic of harmonies.

Adele sings loud and predictable. You can sing along to any Adele song the first time you hear it because there are no surprises ever. Usually singers try too hard to imitate Whitney, but Adele could benefit from a few melisma lessons.

Mariah Carey has one of the best natural-born-talents in music. Her range is legendary from her moody low notes to breathy whistle tones. However, with each successive record, she’s fallen into this horribly annoying pattern of Breathy First Chorus, HalfBreath/HalfFullVoice Second Chours, FullVoice Last Chorus, Lackluster ad libs with a few dolphin notes. That’s it. She was almost a great singer between 1990 and 1997, but that moment has passed. If she didn’t have 5 octaves, no one would care about her.

=============================================================

GREAT SINGERS WITH GREAT VOICES

Toni Braxton has the most distinctive contralto in pop music. She’s been compared to everyone from Anita Baker to Elvis, but her musical ability is all her own. She can wring emotion out of even the most banal Diane Warren track and her vocals are always Just Enough, never tastelessly overdoing it.

Brandy might not be the most powerful vocalist, but her unique tone is the reason she’s still here after two decades. Nobody sounds like Brandy, and the older she gets, the more confident she is with her tool. Already the master of intricate background vocals, Brandy is starting to push herself and really see what her voice can do, and the payoff is immediate.

Christina Aguilera is a singer’s singer. Her range and power are admirable but her vocalizations are perfect. A Christina run is instantly recognizable no matter who is singing it because they have a style all their own.

Whitney Houston is the singer by which all pop singers will be measured for decades to come. She might not have the range of Mariah or the ad libs of Christina, but she has enough of both in spades to make very average songs into monster declarations of musical perfection. Songs like “Run to You” would fail miserably in the hands of lesser musicians. Whitney turned them all into classics.

=============================================================

I know a lot of people will disagree, but the way something sounds is subjective. I will always hate Beyonce’s vibrato. Forever. Rihanna will always sound like a llama swallowed a robot. That doesn’t mean some of their music isn’t good…I’m just callin em like I see hear em.

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The fact that Kylies one dimensional voice is ahead of Janet shwos this list is just cray. That thot doesn't know shit.

But the this thot is pretty accurate:

http://soletstalkabo...oice-and-a-good

There is a difference between a good voice and a good singer.

I made this little graphic to help you out. Click it for the fullsize version.

tumblr_mdfdoi4mfq1r0ftodo1_500.png

I’ll explain it later, but first the backstory.

I was hanging out with this guy who was trying to argue me up down and sideways that Adele is an amazing singer. I’ma tell you why she’s so popular: she has a great big black lady voice and she’s white. The End. Everything she’s doing is done a million times over every Sunday by the church ladies at New Bethel AME Zion Church of Christ Under an Elm Tree By The River. Still, she has a great tone to her voice that you can’t teach. She’s just born with that and she has a great voice. That doesn’t make her a great singer.

A great singer has great ears. All of the runs and melisma are possible because they have a great sense of pitch. They can hear the chords and sing all around, inside, and through them. Those interesting vocal runs just come out because they have great ears. On top of that, with vocal coaching and/or practice they can really hone their craft and do some amazing things.

A great voice is born, not made. You’re either born with a beautiful sound coming out of your mouth, or you’re not.

So I got bored watching the Walking Dead and made a little graphic. Left to right ranks great singing ability with the best being on the right. Bottom to top ranks great voices with the best being near the top. I graded everyone by Whitney Houston who, hands-down, had the best combination of natural-born-tone and exception singing ability.

Let’s break it down:

=============================================================

TOTALLY AVERAGE

Lady Gaga's voice is completely average, nothing special, and she's not the most musical person in the world either. Her melodies are all the same and her ad libs are almost non-existent.

=============================================================

BAD SINGERS WITH BAD VOICES

Rihanna had the misfortune to be born sounding like a billygoat with a cold, not that anyone minds with enough studio trickery surrounding it. Still, her voice is awful. She’s not the worst singer though. She can hit an ad lib every once in awhile and she’s (mostly) on key.

Katy Perry is loud, but her voice is a mixture of that Alanis-Morissette-yodel and someone being hit in the throat with a baseball bat. I thinks she may possibly be tone-deaf from the amount of off-key live performances there are on Youtube. You can’t be a great singer if you’re tone deaf.

Kylie Minogue's voice is fairly pleasant in a girlish, light-weight sort of way, perfect for the pop fluff she records. If she sticks to the melody — and only the melody — she's fine, but straying from the script is always a disaster. I'm Team Kylie as long as she sticks to fluffly pop songs, but that orchestral CD she just put out should be banned from the shelves.

=============================================================

GREAT SINGERS WITH BAD VOICES

Janet Jackson doesn’t have a bad voice, but there’s absolutely no heft to it at all. She’s been singing like a newborn kitten for thirty years now. Still, she has that Jackson ear for harmony and she always puts the note right where it needs to go.

Mary J. Blige is full of soul, and really awkward high notes. She sings with so much passion and emotion, it’s hard not to feel connected, but from a purely aural standpoint, her tone sounds painful sometimes.

Beyonce has more runs than just about anybody. Her ad libs are legendary. Guitarists bass their improv licks around Beyonce’s vocal runs. She can sing her butt off. But when she starts screaming like a banshee at you on a ballad, the only runs that need to happen are me running far away from the stereo.

Keke Wyatt is one of the best singers I have ever heard in my life. I’m in awe of the places she will take her voice with no preparation or forethought. She’s entirely self-taught and her pitch is amazing. I just wish her nigh notes didn’t feel like extreme sinus pressure.

=============================================================

BAD SINGERS WITH GREAT VOICES

Lana Del Rey has one of my favorite new voice in pop music. Her mid-range is nothing special, but when she’s down in contralto territory, she sings with this husky timbre that almost makes her music enjoyable. Too bad she sings with no emotion and all of her songs are monotonously boring.

Sade sings with an easy cool, always sounding like she’s on stage in a smoky lounge. Her voice is timeless, but I don’t think she’s ever sang an ad-lib in her life and most of her records only have the most basic of harmonies.

Adele sings loud and predictable. You can sing along to any Adele song the first time you hear it because there are no surprises ever. Usually singers try too hard to imitate Whitney, but Adele could benefit from a few melisma lessons.

Mariah Carey has one of the best natural-born-talents in music. Her range is legendary from her moody low notes to breathy whistle tones. However, with each successive record, she’s fallen into this horribly annoying pattern of Breathy First Chorus, HalfBreath/HalfFullVoice Second Chours, FullVoice Last Chorus, Lackluster ad libs with a few dolphin notes. That’s it. She was almost a great singer between 1990 and 1997, but that moment has passed. If she didn’t have 5 octaves, no one would care about her.

=============================================================

GREAT SINGERS WITH GREAT VOICES

Toni Braxton has the most distinctive contralto in pop music. She’s been compared to everyone from Anita Baker to Elvis, but her musical ability is all her own. She can wring emotion out of even the most banal Diane Warren track and her vocals are always Just Enough, never tastelessly overdoing it.

Brandy might not be the most powerful vocalist, but her unique tone is the reason she’s still here after two decades. Nobody sounds like Brandy, and the older she gets, the more confident she is with her tool. Already the master of intricate background vocals, Brandy is starting to push herself and really see what her voice can do, and the payoff is immediate.

Christina Aguilera is a singer’s singer. Her range and power are admirable but her vocalizations are perfect. A Christina run is instantly recognizable no matter who is singing it because they have a style all their own.

Whitney Houston is the singer by which all pop singers will be measured for decades to come. She might not have the range of Mariah or the ad libs of Christina, but she has enough of both in spades to make very average songs into monster declarations of musical perfection. Songs like “Run to You” would fail miserably in the hands of lesser musicians. Whitney turned them all into classics.

=============================================================

I know a lot of people will disagree, but the way something sounds is subjective. I will always hate Beyonce’s vibrato. Forever. Rihanna will always sound like a llama swallowed a robot. That doesn’t mean some of their music isn’t good…I’m just callin em like I see hear em.

This made me cackle :asham:

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"This list was helped in part by the following web sites: Rate Your Music, Wikipedia, Past perfect, Amazon, Cynamans, UGO, Listverse, Rocklist, Essence, Timout, Acclaimed Music, and Youtube."

So it's based on stats rather than accuracy.

not even stats.. based on nothingness.. from Wiki to Youtube? psh

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If she didn’t have 5 octaves, no one would care about her.
Except her signature songs don't even utilize half her entire range. "Hero" spans less than 2 octaves (G#3-E5), same goes for "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas Is You," "Always Be My Baby," and "We Belong Together" ~ all around 2 octaves (3 maximum). These great songs prove her amazing skill even within a 2-3 octave range.

(Sorry again for hyper lamb mode lol. Now back to Janet! ^_^) I agree for the most part especially on her ear for harmony; some of the best self-vocal harmonies I've ever heard! And she does have a strong rock voice like on "Black Cat" and "Scream," but I love her soft tone ~ I wouldn't have it any other way! :D

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Except her signature songs don't even utilize half her entire range. "Hero" spans less than 2 octaves (G#3-E5), same goes for "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas Is You," "Always Be My Baby," and "We Belong Together" ~ all around 2 octaves (3 maximum). These great songs prove her amazing skill even within a 2-3 octave range.

(Sorry again for hyper lamb mode lol. Now back to Janet! ^_^) I agree for the most part especially on her ear for harmony; some of the best self-vocal harmonies I've ever heard! And she does have a strong rock voice like on "Black Cat" and "Scream," but I love her soft tone ~ I wouldn't have it any other way! :D

Yeah I disagree with those parts too :lol: but i think whoever wrote it was on point for most of the girls lol.

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Except her signature songs don't even utilize half her entire range. "Hero" spans less than 2 octaves (G#3-E5), same goes for "Without You," "All I Want For Christmas Is You," "Always Be My Baby," and "We Belong Together" ~ all around 2 octaves (3 maximum). These great songs prove her amazing skill even within a 2-3 octave range.

(Sorry again for hyper lamb mode lol. Now back to Janet! ^_^) I agree for the most part especially on her ear for harmony; some of the best self-vocal harmonies I've ever heard! And she does have a strong rock voice like on "Black Cat" and "Scream," but I love her soft tone ~ I wouldn't have it any other way! :D

Oop!

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