Reyna ♔ Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yeah, they'd probably have to make up something. The back story could be the parents coming together from two different kingdoms. There are a few directions it could go in Probably, and that'd be very cool! I think they'll get around to it one day. It'd be beautiful to see. Tbh, they don't even have to explain why she is mixed and just make her biracial/multiracial. Just show her interacting with her parents and go from there. Create an entire kingdom set in the distant past and not worry about all of those details. It's a fictional story anyway so there's really no need to explain a lot of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSimba Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Oh yeah speaking of Brandy's Cinderella, I personally enjoyed how they did it ~ it was all about the acting performances. I mean if a 600-year old fairy godmother can magically appear, fly through the air, and turn pumpkins into carriages, then I don't see why a black queen and white king can't have a Asian prince lol. It's about suspending your disbelief. Probably, and that'd be very cool! I think they'll get around to it one day. It'd be beautiful to see. Tbh, they don't even have to explain why she is mixed and just make her biracial/multiracial. Just show her interacting with her parents and go from there. Create an entire kingdom set in the distant past and not worry about all of those details. It's a fictional story anyway so there's really no need to explain a lot of it Yeah that's true. The viewer can fill in the details themselves if it's not critical to the story. It wouldn't even have to be about her being multiracial either, just like TPATF never focused on Tiana's race, she could be "just 'cuz" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 So they aren't whitewashed. That would mean Disney would have taken a story and changed its characters or heritage. You just said yourself they didn't do that. It sounds like you take issue with them not going out of their way to make characters black that for all intents and purposes would not be given the context. I mean they made Sebastian Jamaican in the Little Mermaid and considering the fairy tale is Danish well, it does look they went out of their way to add a little diversity Most of Disney stories are based on fiction. Meaning that the "heritage" of the characters aren't important or integral to the stories. For instance, the main argument of the comment Bu posted is the background of the authors. That has little to do with the story themselves. Especially a story based entirely in fiction. The other argument is that of the stories setting. They would have a point with that, but again, it's FICTION, nothing explicitly states the character can't have another skin color. People of all races live in every corner of this earth. The truth is it is/was whitewashed, but it's from a time period where everything was presented as such. Even now "best" presentation of a production is seen as that which has an entire white cast. Instead of admitting to it and owning it, there have to be excuses for why something which isn't real is presented the way it is. BTW, you bring up the "Little Mermaid"... that's when Disney finally made the attempt to not present completely whitewashed product. Times are a changing... just not fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Oh yeah speaking of Brandy's Cinderella, I personally enjoyed how they did it ~ it was all about the acting performances. I mean if a 600-year old fairy godmother can magically appear, fly through the air, and turn pumpkins into carriages, then I don't see why a black queen and white king can't have a Asian prince lol. It's about suspending your disbelief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Most of Disney stories are based on fiction. Meaning that they "heritage" of the stories aren't important or integral to the stories. For instance, the main argument of the comment Bu posted is the background of the authors. That has little to do with the story themselves. Especially a story based entirely in fiction. The other argument is that of the stories setting. They would have a point with that, but again, it's FICTION, nothing explicitly states the character can't have another skin color. People of all races live in every corner of this earth. The truth is it is/was whitewashed, but it's from a time period where everything was presented as such. Even now "best" presentation of a production is seen as that which has an entire white cast. Instead of admitting to it and owning it, there have to be excuses for why something which isn't real is presented the way it is. BTW, you bring up the "Little Mermaid"... that's when Disney finally made the attempt to not present completely whitewashed product. Times are a changing... just not fast enough. Again, not whitewashed. You take issue with them not choosing to make characters of color. Whitewashing would be changing a fairy tale to have white characters. I see your point, but it's not whitewashing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 And Disney is very well known for taking stylistic cues from the historical time period and setting. These myths and fables do have roots. Could they radically reinterpret them? Yes, and they have done that. But the majority of their classics do reflect the settings and time periods of the original myths, which are predominantly European. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Again, not whitewashed. You take issue with them not choosing to make characters of color. Whitewashing would be changing a fairy tale to have white characters. I see your point, but it's not whitewashing. It IS a fairy tale though. Nothing explicitly states that they have to be white characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 And Disney is very well known for taking stylistic cues from the historical time period and setting. These myths and fables do have roots. Could they radically reinterpret them? Yes, and they have done that. But the majority of their classics do reflect the settings and time periods of the original myths, which are predominantly European. That has nothing to with those characters having darker skin or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It IS a fairy tale though. Nothing explicitly states that they have to be white characters. Did I disagree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 That has nothing to with those characters having darker skin or not. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Did I disagree with you Ok I still love you Rochester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Don't be like that Rochester! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Don't be like that Rochester! You're right Let's watch Snow Black together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You're right Let's watch Snow Black together Rochester.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Rochester.... Ok, Sleeping Boricua? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You're right Let's watch Snow Black together I hope Disney's version is better than Warner Brothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Ok, Sleeping Boricua? ROCHESTER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yea they whitewash, and it seems pretty evident they know exactly what their doing, my mom always said the biggest example of that was LionKing. That here was this Disney movie set in Africa, but it's about the animals, great movie we all know, but that....that is something to think about. That was a HORRIBLE example Yeah they white wash.. for example, Lion King where Simba was white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Anywhere LOL. Lions aren't exclusive to Africa Yes.. I think they are http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Lion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yes, it's whitewashed. Most of the stories are fairytales/fiction (with the exception of a few based around actual events). Nothing explicitly states that those characters HAD to be white even given the settings. My God.. That makes no sense whatsoever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 My God.. That makes no sense whatsoever... Whether you agree or disagree... if that makes no sense, then just focus on whatever Julissa Timberflop is doing and exit the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You go back to your Black Panther rally with that mess.. Why would Disney or anyone change the location of a fairy tale? If it happened in Europe then why up and move it to _____? Not to mention most of these fairy tales do not take place in the 21st Century.. Most take place 200+ years ago... Disney isn't gonna up and move Snow White to Native Amerian's America (as it takes place between 1500-1550) It doesn't make sense to change the colour of the skin tone of princesses to please anyone.. Keep the characters to it's nearly original form.. This isn't for adults.. it's for innocent children. They don't see color.. They are taught to hate... Like someone taught TOF to hate popular white people and white fairy-tale characters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOtherFan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You go back to your Black Panther rally with that mess.. Why would Disney or anyone change the location of a fairy tale? If it happened in Europe then why up and move it to _____? Not to mention most of these fairy tales do not take place in the 21st Century.. Most take place 200+ years ago... Disney isn't gonna up and move Snow White to Native Amerian's America (as it takes place between 1500-1550) It doesn't make sense to change the colour of the skin tone of princesses to please anyone.. Keep the characters to it's nearly original form.. This isn't for adults.. it's for innocent children. They don't see color.. They are taught to hate... Like someone taught TOF to hate popular white people and white fairy-tale characters You missed the ENTIRE point of what I was saying. lol Even Rochester, though we don't necessarily see eye to eye on the topic, got what I was saying and where I was coming from. lol So yes, focus on 20/20 and exit the thread... or at the very least, TRY to grasp what I'm saying. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yes.. I think they are http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/life/Lion Mmmhmmmm I was too lazy to google but I knew I was right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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