The Legendary Official R I H A L L A H Thread

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

but you are the one making it Janet vs Rihanna I didn't I just said "Discipline" flopped

Rated R sold 1 million in the USA but sold 3 million world wide

no u did when u mentioned Janet

that's not something to brag about when the previous album sold [about] 3 million in the US alone

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

no u did when u mentioned Janet

that's not something to brag about when the previous album sold [about] 3 million in the US alone

of course I mention our Queen Janet you guys are so quick to call everyone else a flopped but she flopped as well it is what it is get over it

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

of course I mention our Queen Janet you guys are so quick to call everyone else a flopped but she flopped as well it is what it is get over it

i never called Rihanna a flop [in this current convo]

u guys are so quick to put down Janet to pull up ur favs... "fans"

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

i never called Rihanna a flop [in this current convo]

u guys are so quick to put down Janet to pull up ur favs... "fans"

I'm just a person who keeps it real on all aspects of an artist Rihanna is the lesser when compared to janet hell all of the girls that are out are lesser

I made the statement just to show how bias people are

Rihanna is one of my favorites but i will never play Janet out for her come on I'm on a Janet forum

me stanning for Janet on a janet forum is boring I stan for Janet on the Rihanna forum

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

I'm just a person who keeps it real on all aspects of an artist Rihanna is the lesser when compared to janet hell all of the girls that are out are lesser

I made the statement just to show how bias people are

Rihanna is one of my favorites but i will never play Janet out for her come on I'm on a Janet forum

me stanning for Janet on a janet forum is boring I stan for Janet on the Rihanna forum

lost me there

1) rihanna isn't an artist

2) u fail to comprehend the lack of album sales compared

[hotboy06]

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

lost me there

1) rihanna isn't an artist

2) u fail to comprehend the lack of album sales compared

everyone is entitled to their own opinion if that's what you think so be it

compared to who Janet come on now you know janet sold more but I'm not going to sugar coat anything the last time Janet had a successful album was all for you

why hasnt she sold more after that all for you? Super bowl scandal

why hasn't Rhianna sold more after GGGB? Chris Brown incident but the European market dont care

it dont take a rocket scientist to know that being a minority and having a scandal attached to you wont sell well with middle white america

why is taylor swift selling crazy? middle white america support

Britney had a worst scandal than Rihanna and she can sell shit loads of album because middle white America supports her

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

exactly I say one thing about a Janet album that flopped (Discipline) and it turns into all of this

I never once said Rihanna was greater than Janet

[art]

with Rated F selling a lil over a 1 Million with a few hits.. that's not saying much...

the difference between Janet and Rihanna is Janet is a legend while Rihanna is a manufactured fad...

Rihanna isn't a consistent seller maybe singles but albums... HELL NO..

Why do you always sound so bitter?

Rated R sold nearly 3 million worldwide by now.

No one's saying Janet isn't a legend and Rihanna isn't a manufactured fad. Stop stating the obvious

Rihanna's albums are consistent sellers hence why her album didn't drop out at week 5 like Janet's Discipline did. The end.

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

Why do you always sound so bitter?

Rated R sold nearly 3 million worldwide by now.

No one's saying Janet isn't a legend and Rihanna isn't a manufactured fad. Stop stating the obvious

Rihanna's albums are consistent sellers hence why her album didn't drop out at week 5 like Janet's Discipline did. The end.

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1. Rihanna - S&M
2. P!NK - Fuckin' Perfect
3. Trey Songz - Cant Be Friends
4. Bruno Mars - Grenade
5. Katy Perry Fireworks

In that order

since Rihanna isn't an artist I see you are loving her song S&M and it's not even a single yet

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

Rated R sold nearly 3 million worldwide by now.

No one's saying Janet isn't a legend and Rihanna isn't a manufactured fad. Stop stating the obvious

Rihanna's albums are consistent sellers hence why her album didn't drop out at week 5 like Janet's Discipline did. The end.

GGGB sold 9 million WW... so Rated F literally did 1/3 of the success of it's predecessor WORLD WIDE

how isn't she manufactured

Janet's Discipline did well enuff considering her circumstances... if it were a lesser person they wouldn't have went Gold

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

since Rihanna isn't an artist I see you are loving her song S&M and it's not even a single yet

just because i like Rihanna's songs doesn't mean i can't talk against her ... i listen to a lot of people... including MJ and he's not off limits

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

I never once said Rihanna was greater than Janet

i didn't say u said that... i'm just saying u have to include Janet in this when Rihanna's backed in a corner

[hotboy06]

OH na na..What's my name..

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

i didn't say u said that... i'm just saying u have to include Janet in this when Rihanna's backed in a corner

I already told you why people on her so quick to call someone a flop when I say Janet they have all the excuses in the world what's good for one is good for everyone

and why not include Janet she's everyone favorite

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

I already told you why people on her so quick to call someone a flop when I say Janet they have all the excuses in the world what's good for one is good for everyone

that's all fine & good.. but i don't

instead of trying to "prove a point"... try defending ur fav-peasant w/o mentioning a Goddess

and why not include Janet it's everyone's favorite

it's a sign of weakness to change the subject...

plus Janet's legacy shits on Rihanna's career

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

OH na na..What's my name..

hey boy I really want to be with you

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

that's all fine & good.. but i don't

instead of trying to "prove a point"... try defending ur fav-peasant w/o mentioning a Goddess

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

plus Janet's legacy shits on Rihanna's career

of course it do

no one never said that Game

you got defensive over what i said and people now dont care about what a person has done in the past i learn that out

the business isn't like how it use to be you are only good as your last album or song

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

of course it do

no one never said that Game

you got defensive over what i said and people now dont care about what a person has done in the past i learn that out

the business isn't like how it use to be you are only good as your last album or song

not defensive .. just stating facts

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

not defensive .. just stating facts

opinion that's all it was

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

opinion that's all it was

it's an opinion that Janet's legacy shits on Rihanna

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

it's an opinion that Janet's legacy shits on Rihanna

stop trying to turn that around I already agreed with you on that

[Mr. Wonder]

The most important thing to know about every Rihanna album is that she is pretty. Were it not for that, the album simply wouldn't exist. Her public behavior indicates that she is not a particularly interesting person (though interesting things have happened to her). Her voice is not very interesting either, although on her fifth album Loud, she does interesting things with it. Not Diamanda Galás-interesting, but interesting in the way zombies are interesting -- when something that once lay flat gets up and starts doing stuff, it's remarkable. Shaking out of her typical near-monotone, Rihanna actually belts on Loud's first single, "Only Girl (In the World)" (the house track is ironically generic given its title, but even more ironically fantastic, given its repetition of virtually every stompy grindy thing on Top 40 radio today). The girl isn't going to be mistaken for Loleatta Holloway anytime soon, but it's nice to hear someone of her pop stature actually putting effort into selling a track. The exponential entitlement that should stem from the combination of her youth and fame are nowhere to be found during the song's four-minute running time.

On "S&M," she does a sneery, whiny thing during the bridge that reminds me of voice work as an antagonist on a super low-level cartoon (Beverly Hills Teens, maybe?). Still, character is character and for someone who's mostly come off as a walking pair of sunglasses, it feels like she's pushing herself out of her comfort zone. That track, weirdly enough, opens the album. What does it say about the most famously abused woman of her generation to start a new musical statement by extolling the virtues of whips and chains? That she's reclaiming violence for her own? That her attention span is as short as her audience's and there's no connection be drawn? Best not to spend too much time thinking about it -- I'm not convinced that anyone involved did. It's another cheery, cheesy house track and the pairing of music and subject matter makes about as much sense as wearing crotchless panties under a chastity belt.

In one way, "S&M" does provide a fitting intro to the album -- on Loud, nothing is cleverly conceived. It's a knee-jerk reaction to the notoriously low-selling, cohesive and thrillingly dark Rated R. Loud is bright and all over the place. Marketability is as close to this collection of would-be singles has to a theme (it doesn't even live up to its already vague title half the time!). Loud is is the sound of someone going to the studio, being told what to sing and performing competently. Maybe Rihanna had a say in the material, maybe she didn't -- it barely matters as her primary role here is that of conduit. It may be disappointing that Rihanna should take such a turn for the commercially pigheaded (particularly after coming damn near close to experimental with Rated R's occasional dubstep leaning and overall bleakness), but it is no surprise. She is a celebrity, not an artist, and cannot expected to be the latter, no matter how much it would make sense for her to say something already on her fifth album. The nothingness is almost admirable, in fact -- Rihanna's got a job to do, so she'd be releasing music anyway, and if you don't have something to say, the best thing you can do for the world is not say anything.

Loud's aesthetic varies wildly (from house to coffee house), and so does its quality. For every genre-secure "Only Girl," there are a few middling pop/R&B hybrids openly aiming for the widest audience possible. "Fading" floats in on a sort of gradatory pomp that degrades by the time Rihanna gets to the pre-first whining of the chorus. The pub-not-club out-on-the-town anthem "Cheers (Drink to That)" exists in some kind of Top 40 wasteland where looping Avril Lavigne's Peter Gabriel-outtro-sounding yelping from "I'm With You" throughout the damn thing is a good idea (I can only assume this was a drunken decision to match the theme of the song). The singer-songwritery schlock of "California King Bed" is so cloyingly MOR, it's an almost impossible listen. There's not a song on my iPod that I've had a harder time getting through, and this is coming from someone with a Pia Zadora album in full on his iPod.

At least that song is unintentionally funny -- every time she says, "California ki--" I feel like she's going to say "kitchen," and that makes me think of California Pizza Kitchen. I'd actually buy an ode to a chain restaurant more than whatever fakey relationship she's purporting to rhapsodize. Also curious is that song's line, "How come when I reach out my fingers, it seems like more than distance between us?" She's doing what now with her fingers? "Got my Ray Bans on and I'm feeling hella cool tonight," she says in "Cheers," seemingly unaware of how dorky that sounds.

On the subject of one-liners (which are among the greatest indicators of an ADHD-servicing release's strength), Nicki Minaj provides a decent one, actually. On the needless "Video Phone" retread "Raining Men," which unfortunately has nothing to do with the Weather Girls, save a vague reference, Minaj brags about having her own TV production company (does she, now?), punctuating that with, "Tell Harpo to hit me, Celie." It's a nuanced and specific Color Purple reference, as well as a hat tip to Oprah the actress and mogul all in one. Legitimately impressive. More groan worthy are Drake's, "The square root of 69 is 8 something right? / 'Cause I've been tryna work it out, oooow!" and especially, "Only thing we have on is the radio." While paraphrasing Mae West in a duet with his supposed ex-girlfriend (his willingness to collaborate with a woman to whom he was a "pawn" makes me wonder if the whole thing was a sham in the first place), Drake's sexuality has never come off more ambiguously. The guy never fails to amaze.

"What's My Name?" is perfect, by the way, this fast slow jam of crocheted hooks that cracks you in the face with its snares and smolders with slowed-down ravey keyboards. Rihanna alternately purrs and demands, exploring a heretofore weirdly neglected side of herself: the sex kitten. That persona is present on the final track, "Skin," and is by far the best of Loud's many looks. Here's hoping she can flesh it out (literally!) on her next release. Every girl needs her janet., and a real sexual awakening would sound so good on her. After all, in addition to being pretty, she is extremely sexy.

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[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

ooooh