The Legendary Official R I H A L L A H Thread

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

I'm only interested in credible website for review like ET weekly, rolling stone etc I guess you have to resort to pulling up a no name blogs for reviews

Do you guys have a thread about that on Beyonce World? Dead @ you for not even showing your source

just worry about Taylor Slaying your favorite on thanksgiving night :lol:

[art]

GGGB sold 9 million WW... so Rated F literally did 1/3 of the success of it's predecessor WORLD WIDE

how isn't she manufactured

Janet's Discipline did well enuff considering her circumstances... if it were a lesser person they wouldn't have went Gold

The same can be said for Janet's janet. to The Velvet Rope decline...

Which was 1/2 of the success of it's predecessor WORLDWIDE OMGZ LOLZ *GASP*

I never said she wasn't manufactured, dummy! Rihanna IS manufactured but that has nothing to do with the fact that her albums sell consistently over a period of time.

You're delusional. Janet's Discipline album flopped. Case closed. And stop throwing the "It wasn't promoted properly" excuse. The project was damned from the start. Also stop being a uptight bitch. If anyone says anything remotely nice or good about another artist you want to talk shit but when we're all happy talking about Janet or anything else you want to be the Debbie Downer. It's annoying.

[art]

The most important thing to know about every Rihanna album is that she is pretty. Were it not for that, the album simply wouldn't exist. Her public behavior indicates that she is not a particularly interesting person (though interesting things have happened to her). Her voice is not very interesting either, although on her fifth album Loud, she does interesting things with it. Not Diamanda Galás-interesting, but interesting in the way zombies are interesting -- when something that once lay flat gets up and starts doing stuff, it's remarkable. Shaking out of her typical near-monotone, Rihanna actually belts on Loud's first single, "Only Girl (In the World)" (the house track is ironically generic given its title, but even more ironically fantastic, given its repetition of virtually every stompy grindy thing on Top 40 radio today). The girl isn't going to be mistaken for Loleatta Holloway anytime soon, but it's nice to hear someone of her pop stature actually putting effort into selling a track. The exponential entitlement that should stem from the combination of her youth and fame are nowhere to be found during the song's four-minute running time.

On "S&M," she does a sneery, whiny thing during the bridge that reminds me of voice work as an antagonist on a super low-level cartoon (Beverly Hills Teens, maybe?). Still, character is character and for someone who's mostly come off as a walking pair of sunglasses, it feels like she's pushing herself out of her comfort zone. That track, weirdly enough, opens the album. What does it say about the most famously abused woman of her generation to start a new musical statement by extolling the virtues of whips and chains? That she's reclaiming violence for her own? That her attention span is as short as her audience's and there's no connection be drawn? Best not to spend too much time thinking about it -- I'm not convinced that anyone involved did. It's another cheery, cheesy house track and the pairing of music and subject matter makes about as much sense as wearing crotchless panties under a chastity belt.

In one way, "S&M" does provide a fitting intro to the album -- on Loud, nothing is cleverly conceived. It's a knee-jerk reaction to the notoriously low-selling, cohesive and thrillingly dark Rated R. Loud is bright and all over the place. Marketability is as close to this collection of would-be singles has to a theme (it doesn't even live up to its already vague title half the time!). Loud is is the sound of someone going to the studio, being told what to sing and performing competently. Maybe Rihanna had a say in the material, maybe she didn't -- it barely matters as her primary role here is that of conduit. It may be disappointing that Rihanna should take such a turn for the commercially pigheaded (particularly after coming damn near close to experimental with Rated R's occasional dubstep leaning and overall bleakness), but it is no surprise. She is a celebrity, not an artist, and cannot expected to be the latter, no matter how much it would make sense for her to say something already on her fifth album. The nothingness is almost admirable, in fact -- Rihanna's got a job to do, so she'd be releasing music anyway, and if you don't have something to say, the best thing you can do for the world is not say anything.

Loud's aesthetic varies wildly (from house to coffee house), and so does its quality. For every genre-secure "Only Girl," there are a few middling pop/R&B hybrids openly aiming for the widest audience possible. "Fading" floats in on a sort of gradatory pomp that degrades by the time Rihanna gets to the pre-first whining of the chorus. The pub-not-club out-on-the-town anthem "Cheers (Drink to That)" exists in some kind of Top 40 wasteland where looping Avril Lavigne's Peter Gabriel-outtro-sounding yelping from "I'm With You" throughout the damn thing is a good idea (I can only assume this was a drunken decision to match the theme of the song). The singer-songwritery schlock of "California King Bed" is so cloyingly MOR, it's an almost impossible listen. There's not a song on my iPod that I've had a harder time getting through, and this is coming from someone with a Pia Zadora album in full on his iPod.

At least that song is unintentionally funny -- every time she says, "California ki--" I feel like she's going to say "kitchen," and that makes me think of California Pizza Kitchen. I'd actually buy an ode to a chain restaurant more than whatever fakey relationship she's purporting to rhapsodize. Also curious is that song's line, "How come when I reach out my fingers, it seems like more than distance between us?" She's doing what now with her fingers? "Got my Ray Bans on and I'm feeling hella cool tonight," she says in "Cheers," seemingly unaware of how dorky that sounds.

On the subject of one-liners (which are among the greatest indicators of an ADHD-servicing release's strength), Nicki Minaj provides a decent one, actually. On the needless "Video Phone" retread "Raining Men," which unfortunately has nothing to do with the Weather Girls, save a vague reference, Minaj brags about having her own TV production company (does she, now?), punctuating that with, "Tell Harpo to hit me, Celie." It's a nuanced and specific Color Purple reference, as well as a hat tip to Oprah the actress and mogul all in one. Legitimately impressive. More groan worthy are Drake's, "The square root of 69 is 8 something right? / 'Cause I've been tryna work it out, oooow!" and especially, "Only thing we have on is the radio." While paraphrasing Mae West in a duet with his supposed ex-girlfriend (his willingness to collaborate with a woman to whom he was a "pawn" makes me wonder if the whole thing was a sham in the first place), Drake's sexuality has never come off more ambiguously. The guy never fails to amaze.

"What's My Name?" is perfect, by the way, this fast slow jam of crocheted hooks that cracks you in the face with its snares and smolders with slowed-down ravey keyboards. Rihanna alternately purrs and demands, exploring a heretofore weirdly neglected side of herself: the sex kitten. That persona is present on the final track, "Skin," and is by far the best of Loud's many looks. Here's hoping she can flesh it out (literally!) on her next release. Every girl needs her janet., and a real sexual awakening would sound so good on her. After all, in addition to being pretty, she is extremely sexy.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I love fourfour

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

The same can be said for Janet's janet. to The Velvet Rope decline...Which was 1/2 of the success of it's predecessor WORLDWIDE OMGZ LOLZ *GASP*I never said she wasn't manufactured, dummy! Rihanna IS manufactured but that has nothing to do with the fact that her albums sell consistently over a period of time.You're delusional. Janet's Discipline album flopped. Case closed. And stop throwing the "It wasn't promoted properly" excuse. The project was damned from the start. Also stop being a uptight bitch. If anyone says anything remotely nice or good about another artist you want to talk shit but when we're all happy talking about Janet or anything else you want to be the Debbie Downer. It's annoying.

:lmao:

I love fourfour

:lmao: :lmao: thanks for letting me know who wrote the review

[Rock & Roll Hall of Game]

The same can be said for Janet's janet. to The Velvet Rope decline...

Which was 1/2 of the success of it's predecessor WORLDWIDE OMGZ LOLZ *GASP*

I never said she wasn't manufactured, dummy! Rihanna IS manufactured but that has nothing to do with the fact that her albums sell consistently over a period of time.

You're delusional. Janet's Discipline album flopped. Case closed. And stop throwing the "It wasn't promoted properly" excuse. The project was damned from the start. Also stop being a uptight bitch. If anyone says anything remotely nice or good about another artist you want to talk shit but when we're all happy talking about Janet or anything else you want to be the Debbie Downer. It's annoying.

according to my sources... janet. sold 13.2 million while TVR sold 8.5 million... that's a 64% difference or nearly 2/3... not 1/2

Source: http://www.mjjcharts...lobalAlbums.htm

her being manufactured has a lot to do with her poor album sales... ask Britney Spears

i didn't say it didn't flop i didn't say anything about the promo either

Debbie Downer never lied about her facts... #juststayin

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

this is Loud chart position around the world on Itunes

#1 & #43 - US

#1 & #6 - Belgium

#1 & #17 - Germany

#1 & #12 - Spain

#1 - Finland

#1 & #9 - France

#1- Deutschland

#1 - Greece

#1 - Luxembourg

#1 & 18 - Japan

#1 & #4 - UK

#1 & #2 - New Zealand

#1 & #55 - Austria

#1 & #16 - Switzerland

#2 & #3 - Canada

#2 & #6 - Norway

#2 - Mexico

#2 & #9 - Sweden

#2 & 121 - Netherlands

#2 & #4 - Ireland

#3 & #9 - Australia

#3 & #17 - Denmark

#6 & #15 - Italy

#6 - Dutch

:excited: :excited:

[RaLpHieReBeL516]

The most important thing to know about every Rihanna album is that she is pretty. Were it not for that, the album simply wouldn't exist. Her public behavior indicates that she is not a particularly interesting person (though interesting things have happened to her). Her voice is not very interesting either, although on her fifth album Loud, she does interesting things with it. Not Diamanda Galás-interesting, but interesting in the way zombies are interesting -- when something that once lay flat gets up and starts doing stuff, it's remarkable. Shaking out of her typical near-monotone, Rihanna actually belts on Loud's first single, "Only Girl (In the World)" (the house track is ironically generic given its title, but even more ironically fantastic, given its repetition of virtually every stompy grindy thing on Top 40 radio today). The girl isn't going to be mistaken for Loleatta Holloway anytime soon, but it's nice to hear someone of her pop stature actually putting effort into selling a track. The exponential entitlement that should stem from the combination of her youth and fame are nowhere to be found during the song's four-minute running time.

On "S&M," she does a sneery, whiny thing during the bridge that reminds me of voice work as an antagonist on a super low-level cartoon (Beverly Hills Teens, maybe?). Still, character is character and for someone who's mostly come off as a walking pair of sunglasses, it feels like she's pushing herself out of her comfort zone. That track, weirdly enough, opens the album. What does it say about the most famously abused woman of her generation to start a new musical statement by extolling the virtues of whips and chains? That she's reclaiming violence for her own? That her attention span is as short as her audience's and there's no connection be drawn? Best not to spend too much time thinking about it -- I'm not convinced that anyone involved did. It's another cheery, cheesy house track and the pairing of music and subject matter makes about as much sense as wearing crotchless panties under a chastity belt.

In one way, "S&M" does provide a fitting intro to the album -- on Loud, nothing is cleverly conceived. It's a knee-jerk reaction to the notoriously low-selling, cohesive and thrillingly dark Rated R. Loud is bright and all over the place. Marketability is as close to this collection of would-be singles has to a theme (it doesn't even live up to its already vague title half the time!). Loud is is the sound of someone going to the studio, being told what to sing and performing competently. Maybe Rihanna had a say in the material, maybe she didn't -- it barely matters as her primary role here is that of conduit. It may be disappointing that Rihanna should take such a turn for the commercially pigheaded (particularly after coming damn near close to experimental with Rated R's occasional dubstep leaning and overall bleakness), but it is no surprise. She is a celebrity, not an artist, and cannot expected to be the latter, no matter how much it would make sense for her to say something already on her fifth album. The nothingness is almost admirable, in fact -- Rihanna's got a job to do, so she'd be releasing music anyway, and if you don't have something to say, the best thing you can do for the world is not say anything.

Loud's aesthetic varies wildly (from house to coffee house), and so does its quality. For every genre-secure "Only Girl," there are a few middling pop/R&B hybrids openly aiming for the widest audience possible. "Fading" floats in on a sort of gradatory pomp that degrades by the time Rihanna gets to the pre-first whining of the chorus. The pub-not-club out-on-the-town anthem "Cheers (Drink to That)" exists in some kind of Top 40 wasteland where looping Avril Lavigne's Peter Gabriel-outtro-sounding yelping from "I'm With You" throughout the damn thing is a good idea (I can only assume this was a drunken decision to match the theme of the song). The singer-songwritery schlock of "California King Bed" is so cloyingly MOR, it's an almost impossible listen. There's not a song on my iPod that I've had a harder time getting through, and this is coming from someone with a Pia Zadora album in full on his iPod.

At least that song is unintentionally funny -- every time she says, "California ki--" I feel like she's going to say "kitchen," and that makes me think of California Pizza Kitchen. I'd actually buy an ode to a chain restaurant more than whatever fakey relationship she's purporting to rhapsodize. Also curious is that song's line, "How come when I reach out my fingers, it seems like more than distance between us?" She's doing what now with her fingers? "Got my Ray Bans on and I'm feeling hella cool tonight," she says in "Cheers," seemingly unaware of how dorky that sounds.

On the subject of one-liners (which are among the greatest indicators of an ADHD-servicing release's strength), Nicki Minaj provides a decent one, actually. On the needless "Video Phone" retread "Raining Men," which unfortunately has nothing to do with the Weather Girls, save a vague reference, Minaj brags about having her own TV production company (does she, now?), punctuating that with, "Tell Harpo to hit me, Celie." It's a nuanced and specific Color Purple reference, as well as a hat tip to Oprah the actress and mogul all in one. Legitimately impressive. More groan worthy are Drake's, "The square root of 69 is 8 something right? / 'Cause I've been tryna work it out, oooow!" and especially, "Only thing we have on is the radio." While paraphrasing Mae West in a duet with his supposed ex-girlfriend (his willingness to collaborate with a woman to whom he was a "pawn" makes me wonder if the whole thing was a sham in the first place), Drake's sexuality has never come off more ambiguously. The guy never fails to amaze.

"What's My Name?" is perfect, by the way, this fast slow jam of crocheted hooks that cracks you in the face with its snares and smolders with slowed-down ravey keyboards. Rihanna alternately purrs and demands, exploring a heretofore weirdly neglected side of herself: the sex kitten. That persona is present on the final track, "Skin," and is by far the best of Loud's many looks. Here's hoping she can flesh it out (literally!) on her next release. Every girl needs her janet., and a real sexual awakening would sound so good on her. After all, in addition to being pretty, she is extremely sexy.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

wtf if that wasnt a biased review idk what is, did grapejuice write this? lol

[art]

according to my sources... janet. sold 13.2 million while TVR sold 8.5 million... that's a 64% difference or nearly 2/3... not 1/2

Source: http://www.mjjcharts...lobalAlbums.htm

her being manufactured has a lot to do with her poor album sales... ask Britney Spears

i didn't say it didn't flop i didn't say anything about the promo either

Debbie Downer never lied about her facts... #juststayin

Your sources are false. According to Janet's camp and her previous labels, janet. sold 20 million and TVR sold 10 million. That's a 50% difference.

Janet's camp >>>> MJJCharts

You FAIL. Britney Spears is manufactured and she sold A LOT of albums. You just proved my point that being manufactured has nothing to do with poor album sales. BWAHAHA! You can be manufactured and outsell the legends, moose!

Debbie Downer = attention seeking whore.

[Mr. Wonder]

I'm only interested in credible website for review like ET weekly, rolling stone etc I guess you have to resort to pulling up a no name blogs for reviews

Do you guys have a thread about that on Beyonce World? Dead @ you for not even showing your source

just worry about Taylor Slaying your favorite on thanksgiving night :lol:

There actually is a Rihanna thread on Beysus World. It's 4188 pages. 90% of it consists of random discussions. 5% is about other artists. Only 2.5% of it is actually about Rihanna. The last 2.5% is Rihanna getting dragged. And stop piggy backing off Taylor.

[Mr. Wonder]

according to my sources... janet. sold 13.2 million while TVR sold 8.5 million... that's a 64% difference or nearly 2/3... not 1/2

Source: http://www.mjjcharts...lobalAlbums.htm

her being manufactured has a lot to do with her poor album sales... ask Britney Spears

i didn't say it didn't flop i didn't say anything about the promo either

Debbie Downer never lied about her facts... #juststayin

Did you really just use an MJ fan site as a source?

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

There actually is a Rihanna thread on Beysus World. It's 4188 pages. 90% of it consists of random discussions. 5% is about other artists. Only 2.5% of it is actually about Rihanna. The last 2.5% is Rihanna getting dragged. And stop piggy backing off Taylor.

remember I get it from you

you always using Gaga

if it's not Beyonce

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

Your sources are false. According to Janet's camp and her previous labels, janet. sold 20 million and TVR sold 10 million. That's a 50% difference.

Janet's camp >>>> MJJCharts

You FAIL. Britney Spears is manufactured and she sold A LOT of albums. You just proved my point that being manufactured has nothing to do with poor album sales. BWAHAHA! You can be manufactured and outsell the legends, moose!

Debbie Downer = attention seeking whore.

[Mr. Wonder]

remember I get it from you

you always using Gaga

if it's not Beyonce

I only bring up Gaga and Beyonce when they are brought up first. I don't need back up to drag Rihanna. She, along with others, make it too easy.

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

Rihanna's album is haft off special this week

http://www.groupon.com/deals/rihanna-new-york/?utm_source=idj&utm_medium=rvs

:whistle:

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm6RTyCJjZw

[Fanka]

Her performance on the AMA'S was kute. Not bad

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDnK_Cw6O9k

Rihanna wins best R&B Female :excited:

[hotboy06]

Sticks and stones may break my bones

But chains and whips excite me..

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

Sticks and stones may break my bones

But chains and whips excite me..

:wub: :wub:

[hotboy06]

Sex in the air

I don't care

I love the smell of it..

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

na na na na na na come on

[Mr. Wonder]

LA Times rated Rihanna's performance a C-

Quote

1. Rihanna, "Love the Way You Lie (Part 2)" & "What's My Name" and "Only Girl (In the World)." And the annual major-label popularity contest that is the American Music Awards gets underway with a shaky start. Rihanna can be captivating, as she is on much of "Rated R." But after a brief few seconds of "Love the Way You Lie," performing above what looked to be a futuristic set of spikes, she drops any sense of contemplation. At the start, it was the dark, sci-fi-like "Tron" atmospheres Rihanna sported on award shows while promoting "Rated R," and though her singing is a bit wobbly, the song strikes such a somber tone that you're on her side. But for Rihanna, being depressed is soooo 2009, and she drops the serious tone for some booty-shaking pop-by-numbers. Hey, it sells better. More curious than either of her recent songs, however, is the handkerchief-like accessory she has used to add a dash of color to her hot pants. Yet clearly that's where the viewers' focus shouldn't be heading. Also, when will award-show producers learn that a medley isn't a good look for anyone? C-.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/11/american-music-awards-2010-live-all-the-performances-as-they-happen.html

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

LA Times rated Rihanna's performance a C-

Quote

1. Rihanna, "Love the Way You Lie (Part 2)" & "What's My Name" and "Only Girl (In the World)." And the annual major-label popularity contest that is the American Music Awards gets underway with a shaky start. Rihanna can be captivating, as she is on much of "Rated R." But after a brief few seconds of "Love the Way You Lie," performing above what looked to be a futuristic set of spikes, she drops any sense of contemplation. At the start, it was the dark, sci-fi-like "Tron" atmospheres Rihanna sported on award shows while promoting "Rated R," and though her singing is a bit wobbly, the song strikes such a somber tone that you're on her side. But for Rihanna, being depressed is soooo 2009, and she drops the serious tone for some booty-shaking pop-by-numbers. Hey, it sells better. More curious than either of her recent songs, however, is the handkerchief-like accessory she has used to add a dash of color to her hot pants. Yet clearly that's where the viewers' focus shouldn't be heading. Also, when will award-show producers learn that a medley isn't a good look for anyone? C-.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/11/american-music-awards-2010-live-all-the-performances-as-they-happen.html

that's the blog boo not the newspaper

stop being press it's showing get over it

[Mr. Wonder]

The LA Times blogs is still a branch of the newspaper. Just like the "editorials" portion of ANY newspaper for that matter.

[DJ Y2K Malone™]

The LA Times blogs is still a branch of the newspaper. Just like the "editorials" portion of ANY newspaper for that matter.

still pressed from yesterday I'm not feeding into your rants today

continue lesser one