Bailey Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 They were either haters or are the Twistedvelvets of Madonnas fanbase She was desperate for a hit in the USA that's all. No excuses no artistic value she was just desperate good thing HC didn't do as good as she wanted over there though , she wont drop another album like that in the near future (and i like the album) I liked the album too, but for me, I swear COADF was just phenomenal it blew me away so it's like how do you follow that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I liked the album too, but for me, I swear COADF was just phenomenal it blew me away so it's like how do you follow that? i hated that album at first, it took me almost 2 years to actually like it . You follow it with a good artistic album and not a commercial one because nothing will do as good after such a successful album . And HC was hardly a flop WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Great article from MTV. I agree with a lot of what's said here: Here’s What Madonna Needs To do For Her Next Album To Be A Hit Madonna’s manager, Guy Oseary, took to Twitter yesterday to announce that the Queen of Pop would be hitting the studio next month to begin work on her twelfth studio album – her first since 2008’s Hard Candy. “Madonna goes into the recording studio next month to begin work on new album,” he wrote. Soon after, a fan asked who M would be hitting the studio with, and Oseary responded, saying, “She has a good idea on which producers she will be working with.” He did not elaborate further. Which got us thinking about what we’d like to hear from the pop trendsetter who’s done it all. More than 28 years into her record shattering career, Madonna really doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone – she’s the top-selling female artist ever, has had more top ten hits than Elvis (or anyone else, alive or dead) and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2008. But with Lady Gaga hotter on her heels than any other diva who’s made a play for her throne, Madge does have a reason to put out a killer album. As longtime fans, we know what has and hasn’t worked for Madonna over the years. Read on for our thought on how she should approach her next record. Stay Away From “Hot” Producers Dr. Luke has worked wonders for Britney Spears (“Till The World Ends”) and Katy Perry (“Teenage Dream”). RedOne and Lady Gaga have the kind of connection that produces insta-classics like “Bad Romance.” Max Martin has become Pink’s go-to guy for recent hits like “Raise Your Glass.” Madonna should stay away from all of these people. Here’s why: It didn’t really work last time. On Hard Candy, Madonna collaborated with Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Danja and Pharrell Williams. The results were mostly fine – we’re actually partial to her tunes with Williams, especially “Incredible” and “The Beat Goes On” – and she scored her biggest hit in years with the Timberlake jam “4 Minutes.” But her previous set, Confessions on a Dance Floor, was widely considered a return to form, and, frankly, running to of-the-moment producers in an attempt to score some easy hits felt cheap and a little desperate coming from one of the most forward-thinking minds in pop, particularly on the heels of her best album in years. Make Some Real Dance Music In the late-90s and early aughts, Madonna did something that no other pop star could do: She brought real dance music to America, and America liked it. She eschewed the conventions of pop music at the time, which was dominated by the bubblegum thump of early Spears and NSYNC, and opted instead to work with underground producers like William Orbit and Mirwais Ahmadzai to introduce electronic and house sounds that were completely foreign to domestic radio. She was rewarded with career-best reviews, reinvigorated album sales and multiple Grammy Awards for her effort. With that in mind, we suggest she make a few phone calls. A good place to start would be with the Swedish trio Swedish House Mafia – Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso and Axwell. With little mainstream fanfare, their latest single “Save the World” has racked up over 12 million views on YouTube. Axwell sits on DJMag’s list of the top ten DJ’s in the world. Others to consider from that same listing: Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren, both of whom specialize in the kind of progressive trance and house music that gets crowds moving (and M does have that massive 360, touring-recording deal with Live Nation to deliver on). What we’re saying is, the best Madonna music has been born from like-minded collaboration with lesser-known dance producers she is herself a fan of, not from current production giants looking to throw their signature beats at the wall to see what sticks. Write About Something The weirdest thing about Hard Candy was the almost regressive nature of some of the lyrics. Music, Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dance Floor were buoyed by thoughtful, reflective lyrics about love, life and spirituality, while a track on Hard Candy had the then-49-year-old singer cooing the line “see my booty get down.” Yes, her signature theme – which we’d boil down to the universal catharsis and release only the dance floor can provide – was present on all these albums, but it wasn’t as smartly crafted on Candy as it was on her past efforts. Lyrically, decades-old albums like Erotica and Like a Prayer felt like more mature works. Since her last album, Madonna has been through a lot, including an adoption, divorce and her return to New York. She’s also the only pop star in the world who can address what it’s like to be a sex symbol aging in full view of the public. Her age has led some pop critics to write her off entirely. Tell us what it feels like to have people turn their backs on you despite the fact that your hit-making instincts and songwriting chops are as sharp as ever, Madonna. We’re all ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Great article from MTV. I agree with a lot of what's said here: Here’s What Madonna Needs To do For Her Next Album To Be A Hit Madonna’s manager, Guy Oseary, took to Twitter yesterday to announce that the Queen of Pop would be hitting the studio next month to begin work on her twelfth studio album – her first since 2008’s Hard Candy. “Madonna goes into the recording studio next month to begin work on new album,” he wrote. Soon after, a fan asked who M would be hitting the studio with, and Oseary responded, saying, “She has a good idea on which producers she will be working with.” He did not elaborate further. Which got us thinking about what we’d like to hear from the pop trendsetter who’s done it all. More than 28 years into her record shattering career, Madonna really doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone – she’s the top-selling female artist ever, has had more top ten hits than Elvis (or anyone else, alive or dead) and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2008. But with Lady Gaga hotter on her heels than any other diva who’s made a play for her throne, Madge does have a reason to put out a killer album. As longtime fans, we know what has and hasn’t worked for Madonna over the years. Read on for our thought on how she should approach her next record. Stay Away From “Hot” Producers Dr. Luke has worked wonders for Britney Spears (“Till The World Ends”) and Katy Perry (“Teenage Dream”). RedOne and Lady Gaga have the kind of connection that produces insta-classics like “Bad Romance.” Max Martin has become Pink’s go-to guy for recent hits like “Raise Your Glass.” Madonna should stay away from all of these people. Here’s why: It didn’t really work last time. On Hard Candy, Madonna collaborated with Timbaland, Justin Timberlake, Danja and Pharrell Williams. The results were mostly fine – we’re actually partial to her tunes with Williams, especially “Incredible” and “The Beat Goes On” – and she scored her biggest hit in years with the Timberlake jam “4 Minutes.” But her previous set, Confessions on a Dance Floor, was widely considered a return to form, and, frankly, running to of-the-moment producers in an attempt to score some easy hits felt cheap and a little desperate coming from one of the most forward-thinking minds in pop, particularly on the heels of her best album in years. Make Some Real Dance Music In the late-90s and early aughts, Madonna did something that no other pop star could do: She brought real dance music to America, and America liked it. She eschewed the conventions of pop music at the time, which was dominated by the bubblegum thump of early Spears and NSYNC, and opted instead to work with underground producers like William Orbit and Mirwais Ahmadzai to introduce electronic and house sounds that were completely foreign to domestic radio. She was rewarded with career-best reviews, reinvigorated album sales and multiple Grammy Awards for her effort. With that in mind, we suggest she make a few phone calls. A good place to start would be with the Swedish trio Swedish House Mafia – Steve Angello, Sebastian Ingrosso and Axwell. With little mainstream fanfare, their latest single “Save the World” has racked up over 12 million views on YouTube. Axwell sits on DJMag’s list of the top ten DJ’s in the world. Others to consider from that same listing: Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren, both of whom specialize in the kind of progressive trance and house music that gets crowds moving (and M does have that massive 360, touring-recording deal with Live Nation to deliver on). What we’re saying is, the best Madonna music has been born from like-minded collaboration with lesser-known dance producers she is herself a fan of, not from current production giants looking to throw their signature beats at the wall to see what sticks. Write About Something The weirdest thing about Hard Candy was the almost regressive nature of some of the lyrics. Music, Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dance Floor were buoyed by thoughtful, reflective lyrics about love, life and spirituality, while a track on Hard Candy had the then-49-year-old singer cooing the line “see my booty get down.” Yes, her signature theme – which we’d boil down to the universal catharsis and release only the dance floor can provide – was present on all these albums, but it wasn’t as smartly crafted on Candy as it was on her past efforts. Lyrically, decades-old albums like Erotica and Like a Prayer felt like more mature works. Since her last album, Madonna has been through a lot, including an adoption, divorce and her return to New York. She’s also the only pop star in the world who can address what it’s like to be a sex symbol aging in full view of the public. Her age has led some pop critics to write her off entirely. Tell us what it feels like to have people turn their backs on you despite the fact that your hit-making instincts and songwriting chops are as sharp as ever, Madonna. We’re all ears! said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 She just needs to queeny it out (without a dated sound ala Celebration) and she'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 She just needs to queeny it out (without a dated sound ala Celebration) and she'll be fine stay away from urban girl do whatever is hot in Europe fuck America her fan base here is what it is and whatever she does is a hit ww so why keep trying American radio? If I were her I would basically say fuck American radio it plays garbage all day anyway, im on to bigger thangs. Maybe some Electro-pop dance tunes with some serious sonic beats and lots of crazy guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I've enjoyed the output from Hard Candy and Celebration. I think her work with Pharrell was really great, and they should have produced more of the album together, maybe with an unknown to give it more of an edge. Anyway, I bet she's really hungry right now and she's feeling really creative. Just remember what a 4 year gap and a film project did for her in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 stay away from urban girl do whatever is hot in Europe fuck America her fan base here is what it is and whatever she does is a hit ww so why keep trying American radio? If I were her I would basically say fuck American radio it plays garbage all day anyway, im on to bigger thangs. Maybe some Electro-pop dance tunes with some serious sonic beats and lots of crazy guitar she just needs to hit the European clubs take it all in add some pop and voila a hit . She'll never have probs in Europe, ppl over here lick her balls I've enjoyed the output from Hard Candy and Celebration. I think her work with Pharrell was really great, and they should have produced more of the album together, maybe with an unknown to give it more of an edge. Anyway, I bet she's really hungry right now and she's feeling really creative. Just remember what a 4 year gap and a film project did for her in 1998. She also became a mother and i think that was the biggest factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I've enjoyed the output from Hard Candy and Celebration. I think her work with Pharrell was really great, and they should have produced more of the album together, maybe with an unknown to give it more of an edge. Anyway, I bet she's really hungry right now and she's feeling really creative. Just remember what a 4 year gap and a film project did for her in 1998. Yea but why this long? Was she busy being a mom? Or did she just not care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 she just needs to hit the European clubs take it all in add some pop and voila a hit . She'll never have probs in Europe, ppl over here lick her balls She also became a mother and i think that was the biggest factor Yes, that was lifechanging and a turning point. I'm not saying she'll make another ray of light, I don't expect her to repeat herself. But I think she'll do something left-field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Yea but why this long? Was she busy being a mom? Or did she just not care? She was busy sticking as many 20 yo brazilian cocks inside of her as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedvelvet Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Who really cares. Janets album matters a great deal more next year to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Yes, that was lifechanging and a turning point. I'm not saying she'll make another ray of light, I don't expect her to repeat herself. But I think she'll do something left-field i don't see her doing anything left field but i expect great pop songs Who really cares. Janets album matters a great deal more next year to me. You do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Write About Something The weirdest thing about Hard Candy was the almost regressive nature of some of the lyrics. Music, Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dance Floor were buoyed by thoughtful, reflective lyrics about love, life and spirituality, while a track on Hard Candy had the then-49-year-old singer cooing the line “see my booty get down.” Yes, her signature theme – which we’d boil down to the universal catharsis and release only the dance floor can provide – was present on all these albums, but it wasn’t as smartly crafted on Candy as it was on her past efforts. Lyrically, decades-old albums like Erotica and Like a Prayer felt like more mature works. I absolutely agree with this. Another thought-provoking album like American Life would be GREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Who really cares. Janets album matters a great deal more next year to me. YOU cared enough to come in and read this thread, dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I absolutely agree with this. Another thought-provoking album like American Life would be GREAT. We can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveaux Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 We can dream. i have a great feeling that it will actually happen. I hope to God that she does not come out trying to compete with Lady Gaga and release some generic ass dance song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 MUH SUGA IS RAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 She was busy sticking as many 20 yo brazilian cocks inside of her as possible that makes me wanna beat my dick......foe real....I aint mad shit get dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaria Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 that makes me wanna beat my dick......foe real....I aint mad shit get dat Oh she got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaLpHieReBeL516 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Oh she got it damn she looks like an EPIC especially next to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-FORCE Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Umm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Umm GET OFF THE BOARD YOU SUSPENDED BITCH....YOU HEARD ME SAY BITCH ...WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW YA NAME? I KNOW YOU HEARD BITCH AT HOME ENOUGH HELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 X-Force? really? you couldn't come up with Y-strength or sumthin else? Ya mama stopped at W before they carted her punk ass off.....suspension.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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