Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Someone posted a picture of a lab rabbit that was losing fur on Facebook because of a L'Oreal (sp) test For people Against it, What if that rabbit were a little girl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Here: http://whitecoatwelfare.org/aat-text.shtml http://www.buzzle.com/articles/argument-against-animal-testing.html Because they can explain better than I can. Yes, I am against it. Strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idrag4mj Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 as long as ..nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Here: http://whitecoatwelfare.org/aat-text.shtml http://www.buzzle.com/articles/argument-against-animal-testing.html Because they can explain better than I can. Yes, I am against it. Strongly. Really imma need you to sum it up in ur own words... You agree that animal testing is equivalent to slavery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 as long as ..nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Depends on the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Depends on the product. elaborate Aussie... Which products, In ur opinion, shouldn't be tested on animals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Really imma need you to sum it up in ur own words... You agree that animal testing is equivalent to slavery Don't take it extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 elaborate Aussie... Which products, In ur opinion, shouldn't be tested on animals? If it's clothes and stuff then there shouldn't be a problem. But in reality, there shouldn't be a problem with it because humans have been doing human testing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodienda76 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 If it's clothes and stuff then there shouldn't be a problem. But in reality, there shouldn't be a problem with it because humans have been doing human testing for years. It dosen't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Don't take it extreme Well u didn't elaborate.. U left two links and booked it... I assume u read what u posted and fully agree because that's what you let us to assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 If it's clothes and stuff then there shouldn't be a problem. But in reality, there shouldn't be a problem with it because humans have been doing human testing for years. Is clothing tested on animals? like they put hats on monkeys and observe Let's stick to non-human testing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraordinary Xternal Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Well u didn't elaborate.. U left two links and booked it... I assume u read what u posted and fully agree because that's what you let us to assume I'd think you'd know better about me than that. But the general idea of doing it and what they said, I agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 It dosen't make it right. You missed the point. Is clothing tested on animals? like they put hats on monkeys and observe Let's stick to non-human testing lol Clothing is tested on animals. I see it all the time. But it's cute though. But in any event, people who test on animals are just stupid. Humans and animals are biologically different, and thus don't react to chemicals the same way. So trying to produce liable results from animal testing is fallacious before it's even started. Also, humans need to understand we are at the top of the food chain. Non-humans kill animals for reasons as trivial as invading another animal's territory. It happens, I watch a lot of animal planet. People who are against it often fail to see this. All life on this earth is placed here to keep everything alive. Everything is a predator, everything is a prey. Humans test on animals as a way to maintain life. Non-humans practice killing other animals as a way to maintain life. It's just blatant hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodienda76 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 You missed the point. Clothing is tested on animals. I see it all the time. But it's cute though. But in any event, people who test on animals are just stupid. Humans and animals are biologically different, and thus don't react to chemicals the same way. So trying to produce liable results from animal testing is fallacious before it's even started. Also, humans need to understand we are at the top of the food chain. Non-humans kill animals for reasons as trivial as invading another animal's territory. It happens, I watch a lot of animal planet. People who are against it often fail to see this. All life on this earth is placed here to keep everything alive. Everything is a predator, everything is a prey. Humans test on animals as a way to maintain life. Non-humans practice killing other animals as a way to maintain life. It's just blatant hypocrisy. OOOPS :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 I'd think you'd know better about me than that. But the general idea of doing it and what they said, I agree with. No.. And I guess.. I think u should explain why? Cuz that's where u didn't explain last time.. U just said the same thing twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 You missed the point. Clothing is tested on animals. I see it all the time. But it's cute though. But in any event, people who test on animals are just stupid. Humans and animals are biologically different, and thus don't react to chemicals the same way. So trying to produce liable results from animal testing is fallacious before it's even started. Also, humans need to understand we are at the top of the food chain. Non-humans kill animals for reasons as trivial as invading another animal's territory. It happens, I watch a lot of animal planet. People who are against it often fail to see this. All life on this earth is placed here to keep everything alive. Everything is a predator, everything is a prey. Humans test on animals as a way to maintain life. Non-humans practice killing other animals as a way to maintain life. It's just blatant hypocrisy. I don't think ur right about most of what you said since mice are used to create human body parts, a pig's heart has the same make up as a human... Yes humans and other animals are not biologically similar but some come very close... So the chemical reaction, whether good or bad, would be realistic as long as the body part being tested is similar to that of a human's Also not all lab animals are killed.. Most are but there are some who carry one their whole lives in a lab.. And we're not using them for food... So idk what u were talking about with the whole "animal kingdom pyramid". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 You missed the point. Clothing is tested on animals. I see it all the time. But it's cute though. But in any event, people who test on animals are just stupid. Humans and animals are biologically different, and thus don't react to chemicals the same way. So trying to produce liable results from animal testing is fallacious before it's even started. Also, humans need to understand we are at the top of the food chain. Non-humans kill animals for reasons as trivial as invading another animal's territory. It happens, I watch a lot of animal planet. People who are against it often fail to see this. All life on this earth is placed here to keep everything alive. Everything is a predator, everything is a prey. Humans test on animals as a way to maintain life. Non-humans practice killing other animals as a way to maintain life. It's just blatant hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I don't think ur right about most of what you said since mice are used to create human body parts, a pig's heart has the same make up as a human... Yes humans and other animals are not biologically similar but some come very close... So the chemical reaction, whether good or bad, would be realistic as long as the body part being tested is similar to that of a human's Also not all lab animals are killed.. Most are but there are some who carry one their whole lives in a lab.. And we're not using them for food... So idk what u were talking about with the whole "animal kingdom pyramid". But you have to remember, just as all humans are different, all animals are different (within the species). Not everyone will react the same tested material the same way. So you can't really use animal tests as being 99.9% accurate, to use the old cliche. Also, I was getting at the hypocrisy of Humans (take note of the capitalization). Animals test on other animals as well. Felines in the Serengeti and Sahara for example use gazels and impalas to train to hunt. Sometimes they don't kill the animal, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't even eat it. It's a survival technique. Similarly, Humans are doing the same thing. We test on non-Humans to ensure our survival. People seem to forget that humans are animals as well. The only thing that separates Humans from other animals is our superior level of intelligence and communication skills. We are at the top of the food chain, so naturally everything below us are prey, unless you're cannibalistic. Animals killing animals (along with Humans) are population control methods that are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSimba Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I'm against it mainly because there are significant differences between all animals. I saw part of that disturbing "Earthlings" documentary some weeks ago for a class, and the conditions the animals are put in are just unfathomably horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Is clothing tested on animals? like they put hats on monkeys and observe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 But you have to remember, just as all humans are different, all animals are different (within the species). Not everyone will react the same tested material the same way. So you can't really use animal tests as being 99.9% accurate, to use the old cliche. Also, I was getting at the hypocrisy of Humans (take note of the capitalization). Animals test on other animals as well. Felines in the Serengeti and Sahara for example use gazels and impalas to train to hunt. Sometimes they don't kill the animal, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't even eat it. It's a survival technique. Similarly, Humans are doing the same thing. We test on non-Humans to ensure our survival. People seem to forget that humans are animals as well. The only thing that separates Humans from other animals is our superior level of intelligence and communication skills. We are at the top of the food chain, so naturally everything below us are prey, unless you're cannibalistic. Animals killing animals (along with Humans) are population control methods that are needed. ok.. i got what you're saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 like it or not, animal testing is done by someone somewhere and the data they collect tells us what not to do to humans I read somewhere the experiments as unethical as they were, done by the Nazis that data was taken and analyzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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