bu. Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm so confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson at this point i dont care what people call me or if they think i'm a bad person… if it means sticking up for my grandmother i will do it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I'm confused, because Paris is saying the letter is false and not everyone signed the document. How old is Paris again? Not to say she's immature or uninformed because we don't know. But how much does she really know about Micheal's legal issues? Paris you better watch your daddies money now. Don't let Mr. Uncle Tom tell you everything's good when it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 How old is Paris again? Not to say she's immature or uninformed because we don't know. But how much does she really know about Micheal's legal issues? Paris you better watch your daddies money now. Don't let Mr. Uncle Tom tell you everything's good when it's not She's 14. But Michael trusted his children and mother more than anyone else. So if there were characters he didn't trust in his life or anything like that, she'd probably know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Interesting stuff on Randy coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 How old is Paris again? Not to say she's immature or uninformed because we don't know. But how much does she really know about Micheal's legal issues? Paris you better watch your daddies money now. Don't let Mr. Uncle Tom tell you everything's good when it's not Paris needs to close her mouth and stay off of twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm so confused THIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm so confused :sigh: The letter says Katherine had a mini-stroke and has been harassed and pressured to drop the wrongful death suit against AEG currently filed by the Jackson family. If you remember, they are arguing that AEG is in part responsible for his death (and likely looking for payment from the liability company) . This is causing a great deal of investigation and examination of MJ's death and all details surrounding his estate. As this letter states the Jackson's do not believe the will that supports the executors' control is valid and the executors are pressuring Katherine and the Jacksons to drop the suit , you can deduce the executors must be afraid or at least mildly concerned over continued review of the death and how they came to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Not sure how seriously this can be taken but start at about 1:32 and stop at 2:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 :sigh: The letter says Katherine had a mini-stroke and has been harassed and pressured to drop the wrongful death suit against AEG currently filed by the Jackson family. If you remember, they are arguing that AEG is in part responsible for his death (and likely looking for payment from the liability company) . This is causing a great deal of investigation and examination of MJ's death and all details surrounding his estate. As this letter states the Jackson's do not believe the will that supports the executors' control is valid and the executors are pressuring Katherine and the Jacksons to drop the suit , you can deduce the executors must be afraid or at least mildly concerned over continued review of the death and how they came to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimAdamz Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Paris needs to shut her trap & stay out of grown folks business, period. Go play outside and be a kid. And those two men were crooks from day 1. Michael didn't fire them once before for nothing. People like to forget that during the time he allegedly signed this "will", he was tanked up on drugs. Meaning if he DID sign that will, he wasn't of sound mind and body. Those two devils knew that & took full advantage of the situation. And they know the public will side with them because people love to just write the Jacksons off as "crazy". I don't feel Janet would attach herself to this if she didn't do her homework first. I pray The Jacksons have everything together this time & can finally get those bastards tossed in the trash for good. They've made enough blood money off Michael's death that they don't deserve. ...and Paris needs to seriously shut up. You are a public figure now, everything you say will be dissected. I can't stand when kids think they know more than adults. And the fact that MJ fans are taking her word over everyone else shows just how dumb & delusional their fair weather asses are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 More On Jackson Sibling Letter To Estate (18-7-2012) The recent controversy involving the scathing letter sent from Michael Jackson's siblings to his estate executors have caused his daughter, Paris, 14, to take to her Twitter account to weigh in. The letter, sent by Janet, Tito, Randy, Jermaine and Rebbie Jackson, suggested that their mother Katherine had recently suffered a "mini-stroke." However, according to Paris, this is not the case. The teenager tweeted: "i am going to clarify right now that what has been said about my grandmother is a rumor and nothing has happened, she is completely fine." The Jackson's letter accuses John Branca and John McClain, executors of the Estate of Michael Jackson, of abusing their 82-year-old mother through lies and manipulations. "Your actions are affecting her health, and on top of that, we've just found out she recently had a mini-stroke. Please understand, she's not equipped to handle the stress load you are putting on her," her children said. "She feels, as she has said, 'I'm stuck in the middle.' She too knows and acknowledges the will was forged. She wants to do the right thing, and move in the direction of justice for her son and family, yet she fears the POWERS THAT BE." Perry Sanders, an attorney for Katherine Jackson, denied that the family matriarch is in poor health. "Mrs. Jackson is extremely lucid and does a great job caring for Michael's children," Sanders said Wednesday. In the letter, the Jackson siblings also attacked Sanders, their mother's manager, Lowell Henry, and adviser Trent Jackson for discouraging her from joining their challenge of the will's validity. "Instead, her so-called advisers are convincing her to let them negotiate 'deals' with Branca and McClain on her behalf, or is it on the behalf of all of you," they wrote. "Her advisers' loyalty seems to be skewed by the percentage you offer them, preventing them from advising her properly." Sanders responded by saying he's always been available to "speak with or meet with any of Mrs. Jackson's children to answer any questions they might have. It is unfortunate that they haven't taken me up on the offer." He continued, "Anyone who actually knows me knows my only loyalty in this matter is to Mrs. Jackson, and the public record of my success for her speaks for itself." He pointed to success in paying off her $14 million civil court judgment to a South Korean company, persuading the estate not to sell the family's Hayvenhurst mansion and "helping get her family allowance increased almost tenfold, to name a few." The siblings' letter told the estate executors they have "dishonored everything our brother stood for," and that they would "take every appropriate action to seek justice." "Be informed, we are considering retaining a law firm, Baker Hostetler, who have advised us on the potential criminal misconduct in your actions. We will hand this over to proper authorities," they wrote. Source: MJFC / CNN.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Michael Jackson's siblings attack estate executors Los Angeles (CNN) -- Janet Jackson and four of her siblings sent a scathing letter to the men who control Michael Jackson's estate, accusing them of fraud and of abusing their mother. "THIS HAS TO STOP NOW: NO MORE!!" the Jackson siblings wrote in the letter obtained by CNN. The letter also suggested that their mother, Katherine Jackson, suffered a "mini-stroke" recently, which her lawyer quickly disputed. The controversy even led Paris Jackson, the late pop star's 14-year-old daughter, to use her Twitter account to weigh in. "i am going to clarify right now that what has been said about my grandmother is a rumor and nothing has happened, she is completely fine," Paris tweeted. Relations between the Jackson family and executors John Branca and John McClain have been strained for most of the three years since Michael Jackson's sudden death from an overdose of an anesthetic used as a sleep aid. The letter mostly repeats allegations made by family members, but it also threatens new legal action against Branca, an entertainment lawyer, and McClain, a music executive, who worked with Jackson at several points in his career. "We know there is most certainly a conspiracy surrounding our brother's death and now coarse manipulation and fear are being used to cover it up," they wrote. "Your heartless pursuit of wealth, fame and power is at the expense of our family, whose deepest desire is to give to the world a gift of hope, love and unity through our music." It was signed by Janet, Jermaine, Tito, Randy and Rebbie Jackson. Jackie, Marlon and La Toya Jackson did not sign it, nor did parents Joe and Katherine Jackson. "We are saddened that false and defamatory accusations grounded in stale Internet conspiracy theories are now being made by certain members of Michael's family whom he chose to leave out of his will," estate spokesman Jim Bates said in a statement to CNN. "We are especially disheartened that they come at a time when remarkable progress has been made to secure the financial future of his children by turning around the estate's finances as well as during a time when so many of Michael's fans, old and new, are enjoying his artistry through exciting new projects." The will, which was validated in probate court in the months after Jackson's June 25, 2009, death, put all Jackson's assets into a trust that benefited his mother, Katherine; his children, Prince, Paris and Blanket; and charities. Branca and McClain were named as executors. The signature page indicated that Michael Jackson signed the will in Los Angeles on July 7, 2002, on which date the Jacksons say he was in New York. The siblings' letter charged that "without question, it's fake, flawed and fraudulent." "According to what is witnessed in the document, it is impossible and illogical that he could have been in two places at one time," the letter said. "We have evidence that undoubtedly supports and proves that Michael was absolutely not in Los Angeles, California, on the date his signature reflected in the will at hand." They also questioned why their brother would name as executors someone he disliked. "Our brother told us, in no uncertain terms and without hesitation in the months prior to his death, that he despised both of you and that he did not want either of you to have anything to do with his life or estate for that matter," the letter said. "We know that and you know that." Courts have already settled the matter, the estate spokesman said. "Any doubts about the validity of Michael's will and his selection of executors were thoroughly and completely debunked two years ago when a challenge was rejected by the Los Angeles County Superior Court, the California Court of Appeals and, finally, the California Supreme Court," Bates said. The Jackson brothers and sisters also accuse Branca and McClain of abusing their 82-year-old mother through lies and manipulations. "Your actions are affecting her health, and on top of that, we've just found out she recently had a mini-stroke. Please understand, she's not equipped to handle the stress load you are putting on her," her children said. "She feels, as she has said, 'I'm stuck in the middle.' She too knows and acknowledges the will was forged. She wants to do the right thing, and move in the direction of justice for her son and family, yet she fears the POWERS THAT BE." Katherine Jackson's lawyer Perry Sanders disputed that she was in poor health. "Mrs. Jackson is extremely lucid and does a great job caring for Michael's children," Sanders said Wednesday. The siblings also attacked Sanders, Katherine Jackson's manager, Lowell Henry, and adviser Trent Jackson for discouraging her from joining their challenge of the will's validity. "Instead, her so-called advisers are convincing her to let them negotiate 'deals' with Branca and McClain on her behalf, or is it on the behalf of all of you," they wrote. "Her advisers' loyalty seems to be skewed by the percentage you offer them, preventing them from advising her properly." Sanders responded that he's always been available "to speak with or meet with any of Mrs. Jackson's children to answer any questions they might have. It is unfortunate that they haven't taken me up on the offer." "Anyone who actually knows me knows my only loyalty in this matter is to Mrs. Jackson, and the public record of my success for her speaks for itself," Sanders said. He pointed to success in paying off her $14 million civil court judgment to a South Korean company, persuading the estate not to sell the family's Hayvenhurst mansion and "helping get her family allowance increased almost tenfold, to name a few." The siblings' letter told the executors they have "dishonored everything our brother stood for." "Your greed and hasty business decisions have shown that you have no regard for the preservation of his legacy, nor the quality of work that he exemplified," they said. "You have disrespected our parents and family too many times. We do not respect you as executors, and we don't respect the projects and choices you've made, nor do we appreciate the public perception that the Jackson family is behind all of this, exploiting Michael our brother for financial gain, when it's the two of you and your affiliates who do so." Finally, the five Jacksons wrote that they would "take every appropriate action to seek justice and to see to it that the truth be known." "Be informed, we are considering retaining a law firm, Baker Hostetler, who have advised us on the potential criminal misconduct in your actions. We will hand this over to proper authorities," they wrote. Bates said the executors "have diligently carried out their fiduciary duties as well as their obligation to Michael to make sure that his estate benefits the only family members he named in his will, his mother and his three children." Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/18/showbiz/jackson-estate-dispute/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 can you bold the important parts please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 can you bold the important parts please? I just did. Sorry I highlighted the new stuff that wasn't in the letter, the statement from the Estate, or Paris' tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Interesting thing is, most others aside from the family say that Michael wasn't even in contact with his family in the months leading up to his death. He spoke with Joseph once or twice, but no-one else has really said that they saw or talked to him during that time. Also, most articles being released recently about Janet besides this is the fact she's upset over Paris going into acting so young. Not sure if that's rehashing or something new, just reporting what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray. Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The will put all Jackson's assets into a trust that benefited his mother, Katherine; his children, Prince, Paris and Blanket; and charities. so jermaine and 'em fall under this category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 so jermaine and 'em fall under this category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 i am sorry for my quick reaction this morning. it was my foolish retaliation that i do regret. my tweet was merely (cont.) Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 (cont.) about the remark about the stroke. she did NOT have a stroke today. i sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Interesting thing is, most others aside from the family say that Michael wasn't even in contact with his family in the months leading up to his death. He spoke with Joseph once or twice, but no-one else has really said that they saw or talked to him during that time. Also, most articles being released recently about Janet besides this is the fact she's upset over Paris going into acting so young. Not sure if that's rehashing or something new, just reporting what I'm seeing. he went to Janet's birthday party or something like that... that's not new.. Janet said that during her last big interview... she didn't use the word "upset" tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 i am sorry for my quick reaction this morning. it was my foolish retaliation that i do regret. my tweet was merely (cont.) Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 (cont.) about the remark about the stroke. she did NOT have a stroke today. i sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart this is why a 14 year old shouldn't be on twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 he went to Janet's birthday party or something like that... that's not new.. Janet said that during her last big interview... she didn't use the word "upset" tho Oh alright. I know, I just keep seeing articles with today's date on them about it, mainly from US Weekly, so I figured I'd mention it. They're saying a huge falling out is taking place over that recently. Idk. Just seems odd to bring up in the middle of this whole deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedElegance™ Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I fucking gagged at her CAMB hash tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 i am sorry for my quick reaction this morning. it was my foolish retaliation that i do regret. my tweet was merely (cont.) Paris Jacksoη @ParisJackson @randyjackson8 (cont.) about the remark about the stroke. she did NOT have a stroke today. i sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart Nobody even said she 'had a stroke today'. That's why Paris should have minded her own business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Jermaine makes his Twitter statement: Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5 Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw... Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5 This is a serious matter that has been weighed carefully, including taking into account Michael's thoughts and feelings when he was alive He also RT'd Randy's second tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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