Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 But it really doesn't, debt can be changed with a check from whoever, and arrogance isn't just her issue or her main 1 anyway, her blatant ignorance along with her arrogance, again, she makes the news more for her ignorance with other celebs or what she says in general than her music, and if that's your image, it's not a good look at all, which I say has to do with her decline in relevance. (TLC & Toni proved you can be in debt and not be overated or can continue making good music) She's always been arrogant.. But I don't think Nicki is overrated that's opinionated.. Arrogant, yes.. And she has the right to be since everyone wants her on his or her songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What does Kim's financial problems have to do with Nicki being loud, annoying, ratchet and setting black women back 400 years on Idol and in her music? Every time we hear about Nicki she's feuding with someone (Steven Tyler, Barbra Walters, Billy Bush, etc). The bitch is worse than Chris Brown um no and no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 She's always been arrogant.. But I don't think Nicki is overrated that's opinionated.. Arrogant, yes.. And she has the right to be since everyone wants her on his or her songs What does her being overrated have to remotely do with what I posted in my last comment that was about her blatant ignorance which is worst than her arrogance and that that gets more attention than her music which is a undenyable fact. Overated or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 What does her being overrated have to remotely do with what I posted in my last comment that was about her blatant ignorance which is worst than her arrogance and that that gets more attention than her music which is a undenyable fact. Overated or not. You called Toni and TLC "not making overrated" music though the three of them are flops.. I give up. I like Nicki as an artist.. I don't care what she says.. Or what she says it outside of music.. Much like many MJ wackos don't care that MJ was addicted to drugs or had a pedophile-theme park in his backyard.. Who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aed05 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Game either get laid or get a life. One or the other will get you off this message board and give you something to do. Mariah threw shade and the shit was funny. Nicki is a good rapper who lost her artistic way. Lil Kim, MJ, Toni and TLC have nothing to do with any of this. You're a lame instigator who isn't even cleaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nicki is a good rapper That's the only thing you said that was relevant to me good day sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Game either get laid or get a life. One or the other will get you off this message board and give you something to do. Mariah threw shade and the shit was funny. Nicki is a good rapper who lost her artistic way. Lil Kim, MJ, Toni and TLC have nothing to do with any of this. You're a lame instigator who isn't even cleaver. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 You called Toni and TLC "not making overrated" music though the three of them are flops.. I give up. I like Nicki as an artist.. I don't care what she says.. Or what she says it outside of music.. Much like many MJ wackos don't care that MJ was addicted to drugs or had a pedophile-theme park in his backyard.. Who cares Oh my bad I meant that their life and crazyness and financial troubles never outweighed their music or image (including Lisa burning down her mans house), and TLC is legend. The end. Hey Im the same way with Rihanna, but the issue was just you defending her stupidity, the arrogance I don't have a problem with, she's almost a rapper, it's apart of what that cultures about. Again, MJ's personal life does not and could not over shadow his musical legacy because when building his legacy he didn't have those issues or rumors or any of that stuff, and so when it came it meant nothing. For a new artist however, to have this kind of shit overshadow her artistry is a bad look and is actually undoubtedly damaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hey Im the same way with Rihanna, but the issue was just you defending her stupidity, the arrogance I don't have a problem with, she's almost a rapper, it's apart of what that cultures about. Again, MJ's personal life does not and could not over shadow his musical legacy because when building his legacy he didn't have those issues or rumors or any of that stuff, and so when it came it meant nothing. For a new artist however, to have this kind of shit overshadow her artistry is a bad look and is actually undoubtedly damaging. I'm not defending her.. At least I'm not trying to.. I just think it's fucked up how everyone on here is ganging up on her like she didn't sell more than their favs would in 2010-13... Yes REUP was a disaster.. Yes MC had a legendary career.. Yes Nicki is arrogant but in a room full of men... She has to stand up and garner attention or she'll get lost in the shuffle Focusing on the music alone... Nicki Minaj is one of the best rising stars. I don't care about MJ.. Blah... And TLC is legendary as a group.. Without one.. There's none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 I'm not defending her.. At least I'm not trying to.. I just think it's fucked up how everyone on here is ganging up on her like she didn't sell more than their favs would in 2010-13... Yes REUP was a disaster.. Yes MC had a legendary career.. Yes Nicki is arrogant but in a room full of men... She has to stand up and garner attention or she'll get lost in the shuffle Focusing on the music alone... Nicki Minaj is one of the best rising stars. I don't care about MJ.. Blah... And TLC is legendary as a group.. Without one.. There's none But all of us don't care about our faves selling what she sold, look at the artist I don't like Madonna, Justin, Bey, Nicki, & Beiber, all of them have sold a ton in recent years but it REALLY does not raise my respect for them or consideration for them as legitimate artist, I just don't care, just like you just don't care about MJ, thats alright with me cause I get it, don't agree with it, but I get it, those artist music &/or talent don't do anything for me and on top of that I consider them all overrated. Do I wish my faves sold as much as them in recent years? Sure, but as you see they don't have to for my respect and being a fan. OK...thats your opinion, thing is tho this whole argument wasn't even really ever about the music, it was about the stats and her, if you don't care about either you don't have to defend her this much. And yes we know this about TLC, but groups/bands thats true about still keep going tho their legacy is SET (best examples Nirvana & Queen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 My father says the same thing as paragraph one.. You're comparing the greatest bands of all time to some pop girl band please stop.. What's next? DC or NSYNC?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 My father says the same thing as paragraph one.. You're comparing the greatest bands of all time to some pop girl band please stop.. What's next? DC or NSYNC?! Yea from what you've said here your dad seems to be awesome in terms of taste A legendary pop girl group, not a lessor 1 like the other 2 listed. There can & will NEVER be another TLC, just like those bands, DC's and Nsync's (AKA Supremes & The Monkeys) are always gonna come into light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yea from what you've said here your dad seems to be awesome in terms of taste A legendary pop girl group, not a lessor 1 like the other 2 listed. There can & will NEVER be another TLC, just like those bands, DC's and Nsync's (AKA Supremes & The Monkeys) are always gonna come into light. yeah.. hes 80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyHood Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 With all this Minaj showing no respect to Miss Carey-Cannon considered, I now hope "Beautiful" becomes #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The queen makes her return once again in a thread that has nothing to do with her..her irrelevance has your mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utopia Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The queen makes her return once again in a thread that has nothing to do with her..her irrelevance has your mind. ffffffffffff HEW ELSE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I don't get the reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrylf Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 yeah.. hes 80 Comment remains , mines is 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Apparently Nicki is taking a pic with the man that abused Mariah as a failed attempt at shade. Oh. At least Mariah had good sense to leave her abusive relationship. Nicki on the other hand is still with SB. I guess she's gotten really good at dodging suitcases. Edit: Nvm, I hear they were sitting at the same table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Apparently Nicki is taking a pic with the man that abused Mariah as a failed attempt at shade. Oh. Eminem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Eminem? Tommy Mottolla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Tommy Mottolla I thought he died... Nicki's shady as fuck for that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I thought he died... Nicki's shady as fuck for that Nope. He looks dead though. She also took a pic with J. No too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJoe Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Apparently Nicki is taking a pic with the man that abused Mariah as a failed attempt at shade. Oh. At least Mariah had good sense to leave her abusive relationship. Nicki on the other hand is still with SB. I guess she's gotten really good at dodging suitcases. Edit: Nvm, I hear they were sitting at the same table. But remember Mariah stayed with Tommy for years on end so it's not like she left the abuser right away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 But remember Mariah stayed with Tommy for years on end so it's not like she left the abuser right away That awkward moment when you find out Nicki Minaj has been with her boyfriend since high school... 12 years (assuming they started when she was 18)... Mariah Carey's lasted 4 years (1993-1997) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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