Reyna ♔ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Im over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Did I ignore your Hey Bu? Hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 See? Was that so hard? It does have some sexual tones to it, but essentially yes, it is just a sweet love song. It isn't, however, a tribute to the Challenger victims nor to their families. That is why it was senseless for her to use that audio at the beginning of it. There is nothing about that song that sounds the way she and her team tried to spin it. Do I think she was malicious in her choice to use it? Absolutely not. It's just distasteful and poorly thought out, obviously. It's a song that can be interpreted many ways, though. And to me it does sound like a song that can apply to their situation. Especially when you look at the video. The song was written in a way that everyone can relate to it including the families of the Challenger victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Did I ignore your Hey Bu? Hey You sure did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThatOtherFan Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 See? Was that so hard? It does have some sexual tones to it, but essentially yes, it is just a sweet love song. It isn't, however, a tribute to the Challenger victims nor to their families. That is why it was senseless for her to use that audio at the beginning of it. There is nothing about that song that sounds the way she and her team tried to spin it. Do I think she was malevolent in her choice to use it? Absolutely not. It's just distasteful and poorly thought out, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 You sure did. My bad. I hope you're well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It's a song that can be interpreted many ways, though. And to me it does sound like a song that can apply to their situation. Especially when you look at the video. The song was written in a way that everyone can relate to it including the families of the Challenger victims. what... the... fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 My bad. I hope you're well No, Im not. I wanna drag the shit out of you for ignoring me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 No, Im not. I wanna drag the shit out of you for ignoring me. Don't try it Bianca, dahling, You remember what happened last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 what... the... fuck? Just because I made up with Reyna doesnt mean I wont go back and make that gap in your teeth even bigger. Tread lightly. I really dont care about being warned and suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It's a song that can be interpreted many ways, though. And to me it does sound like a song that can apply to their situation. Especially when you look at the video. The song was written in a way that everyone can relate to it including the families of the Challenger victims. It would take some serious reaching to interpret it as a tribute. You don't usually do a tribute to someone/something in such a vague way that almost makes it seem as if that bit was just tacked on for some extra power. The song, at its heart, is a simple love song. It would have served its purpose just fine without that audio if the meaning was to appreciate love in your life before its gone. She didn't need to draw attention to a certain event if it was going to be so open to interpretation. Even if it was a tribute, why choose the most heartbreaking audio from that day? That's a new question I'm posing to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I love my gap.. so continue to talk about it I'm 25... Your jokes were funny when Mariah wasn't crazy.. so the 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Don't try it Bianca, dahling, You remember what happened last time? Yeah, I do actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It would take some serious reaching to interpret it as a tribute. You don't usually do a tribute to someone/something in such a vague way that almost makes it seem as if that bit was just tacked on for some extra power. The song, at its heart, is a simple love song. It would have served its purpose just fine without that audio if the meaning was to appreciate love in your life before its gone. She didn't need to draw attention to a certain event if it was going to be so open to interpretation. Even if it was a tribute, why choose the most heartbreaking audio from that day? That's a new question I'm posing to anyone. They didn't present the video as a tribute on release.. only when people started to complain... which makes it a PR-clean upute than a tribute... I see how it fits the song but it literally shouldn't fit this song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It would take some serious reaching to interpret it as a tribute. You don't usually do a tribute to someone/something in such a vague way that almost makes it seem as if that bit was just tacked on for some extra power. The song, at its heart, is a simple love song. It would have served its purpose just fine without that audio if the meaning was to appreciate love in your life before its gone. She didn't need to draw attention to a certain event if it was going to be so open to interpretation. Even if it was a tribute, why choose the most heartbreaking audio from that day? That's a new question I'm posing to anyone. I just think she was trying to make the song more universal. And really bring on home the fact that we should appreciate our loved ones while theyre here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 They didn't present the video as a tribute release.. only when people started to complain... which makes it a PR-clean up than a tribute... I see how it fits the song but it literally shouldn't fit this song Exactly. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 In regards to XO and the '86 Shuttle disaster audio. It's clear there was no malicious intent behind it. Is it insensitive? To the victims of the family it is and no one can fault them for feeling that way. She apologised about it. The song itself has a nice message. Time to move on. Right! I didn't even realize the damn sample but you know every time a black person succeeds and outperforms mediocre white performers they have to find fault with everything they do. It's unfathomable to them to think that a black person can actually be on top. See? Was that so hard? It does have some sexual tones to it, but essentially yes, it is just a sweet love song. It isn't, however, a tribute to the Challenger victims nor to their families. That is why it was senseless for her to use that audio at the beginning of it. There is nothing about that song that sounds the way she and her team tried to spin it. Do I think she was malevolent in her choice to use it? Absolutely not. It's just distasteful and poorly thought out, obviously. I don't think she meant it as a tribute to the victims, but more so cherishing the moment you have with someone while they're on this earth with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I love my gap.. so continue to talk about it I'm 25... Your jokes were funny when Mariah wasn't crazy.. so the 80s And you camping out in the offical threads claiming youre "bored" was never funny. Just put me on ignore and I'll do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapade Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I just think she was trying to make the song more universal. And really bring on home the fact that we should appreciate our loved ones while theyre here. I should've seen this before I hit reply LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbreakable. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The video was never presented as a tribute. Thats MY take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I just think she was trying to make the song more universal. And really bring on home the fact that we should appreciate our loved ones while theyre here. I can see that, but adding that audio draws attention to a certain event and focuses on it. It would have been universal without it. I just think it was in very poor taste and an even worse PR move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Roll Hall of Game Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 And you camping out in the offical threads claiming youre "bored" was never funny. Just put me on ignore and I'll do the same. Again.. jokes from the past... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bu. Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It only draws attention now that the widow spoke out. The album has been out for nearly 3 weeks now and this non-issue has only just come to light. It's a classic case of bandwagon jumping. Where was the outcry 3 weeks ago? Like I said...is it insensitive? Yes it is. She's apologised. There's nothing that can be done now - it's out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I don't think she meant it as a tribute to the victims, but more so cherishing the moment you have with someone while they're on this earth with you. I agree that she didn't mean to. I just think it would have been more universal and accomplish that message without using that audio or using PR to cover it up as a tribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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