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Andy Cohen loves him some Janet so he knew what the answer was going to be cause it's not that Janet was difficult to work with, L.A. Reid is angry at himself for not getting it right with Janet.  Simple as that.  Reid should have left Janet alone instead of insisting she do things certain ways. 

 

Andy was the one who first leaked that Janet had a new single coming out maybe on T.V. 1 week before Janet's announcement. I think he had Brandy on the show....not sure who the other guest was. 

 

I aint even going to bother watching L.A. Reid answer that.  Since when have we ever heard that Janet was difficult to work with.  Reid is an egotistcal asshole and pussy that just rubbed Janet the wrong way and Janet wasn't having it.  Obviously Reid knew she was right as he let her out of her contract.  (Sorry for cussing but these are fighting words I have to use when talking about Reid) 

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you're right. La Reid failed, and he has to take responsibility for that, why does the artist have to be the wrong one? Hadnt Janet been around long enough for him to know what she would be like? I just think saying she was "difficult" doesn't own up to his end that what he really should be saying is he couldnt manage the situation like he thought he would and it was a failure on his end ....so stop being salty

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After all the RWU drama this was expected. He obviously wanted to do things his way and expected Janet to roll over and do as she was told. Janet doesnt work that way. 

Makes me wonder what happens when he is in the room with Mariah. Guess we can assume that she just does what she is told which is weird cuz ive never looked at her that way.

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After all the RWU drama this was expected. He obviously wanted to do things his way and expected Janet to roll over and do as she was told. Janet doesnt work that way.

Makes me wonder what happens when he is in the room with Mariah. Guess we can assume that she just does what she is told which is weird cuz ive never looked at her that way.

Mariah isn't a powerful woman.. Her relationship with Tommy Motolla (or whatever) gives that away
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After all the RWU drama this was expected. He obviously wanted to do things his way and expected Janet to roll over and do as she was told. Janet doesnt work that way.

Makes me wonder what happens when he is in the room with Mariah. Guess we can assume that she just does what she is told which is weird cuz ive never looked at her that way.

I thought the same thing. I.juss knew he was gonna say Mariah but then again i thought maybe not becus i know how close he and Mariah are on a personal level...but ive always imagined Mariah to be one of the more difficult artists to work with. Even Snoop dogg said she was
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Mariah isn't a powerful woman.. Her relationship with Tommy Motolla (or whatever) gives that away

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After Tommy is when she became powerful. It taught her to stand up for herself. Mariah IS a bitch that does what she wants. She is hardly a pushover anymore..where have you been? Mariah, since the turn of the century...is not the weak peasant Mariah from 1991. She knows and understands her position in this game alot like Janet. We're not talkin Celine here.,,now SHE still comes off as a puppet

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After Tommy is when she became powerful. It taught her to stand up for herself. Mariah IS a bitch that does what she wants. She is hardly a pushover anymore..where have you been? Mariah, since the turn of the century...is not the weak peasant Mariah from 1991. She knows and understands her position in this game alot like Janet. We're not talkin Celine here.,,now SHE still comes off as a puppet

I disagree. She's a diva and a legend but when it comes down to it, she's weak.

Celine is a career puppet, yes.. But I don't think Mariah truly is a woman of power. She's a trophy. Very naive.. Immature and insecure... Not to say powerful woman aren't insecure.. But I feel like she'll listen to whatever someone of power has to say and stay in line. (LA Reid). Mariah wouldn't fight for what she believes in. She would just settle for what she has (Las Vegas)

I feel Janet is the opposite

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Mariah became powerful when she made a complete shift in her career once she split wit Tommy and started doin goin the "urban" rounte. That was the beginning of the NEW MARIAH -Imma do wtf i want becus im Mariah fucking Carey. Mariah understands the business. Shes not sum clueless woman. There's no marionette in sight. We can agree to disagree. Im sure someone else will come in and debate with you.. im already over it. Have fun

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fuck that greasy power bottom. Ive heard plenty of artists say that he was difficult to work with. Patti Labelle went all the way off on him back in 2005 and aired all their dirty laundry out for the world to see. If anybody was difficult to work with, he should have said her name because she made his ass look like a fool with "They must be def at def jam"...Patti was upset and that's why I always had my reservations with Janet signing with them and Im sure Janet took all of that into consideration when she did sign with them and as soon as she showed any opposition, she became difficult. He is mad because Janet wouldn't let him Joe Jackson her, but if he knew anything about Janet she is not the 1, 2 or 3. I can imagine Janet wanting her own way, she has said so herself but that doesn't make her difficult...that makes her a BOSS and in control of her career. Miss Reid is clearly jealous, but the best revenge is success and well Janet has the stage set where she can make LAme look stupid in 5, 4, 3, 2 1.

 

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Patti Labelle locks horns with La Reid.

by Roger Friedman

The roots of the LaBelle/Reid feud are easy to identify.

LaBelle was signed to Def Jam before Reid arrived as part of what was supposed to be Def Soul Classics. But Reid apparently wasn't interested in artists who could actually sing or compose music.

Hence, no albums from James Brown or Earth, Wind & Fire, two of the other acts that were supposedly signed to Def Soul Classics.

LaBelle released two albums on the label. The first one, "Timeless Journey," was released in May 2004 to rave reviews. But Def Soul Classics was caught in the changeover from Lyor Cohen to Reid, and the album disappeared.

A year later, in June 2005, LaBelle delivered "Classic Moments," an eclectic collection of cover songs written by people like Elton John, Michael Jackson, Bonnie Raitt and the Pretenders.

From the latter came "I'll Stand By You," which LaBelle saw as a new anthem and signature song. The Pretenders' Chrissie Hynde — who wrote the song — was thrilled. And LaBelle was right about the anthem: "I'll Stand by You" should have returned her to the contemporary hits charts and to radio.

But Reid, LaBelle's friends say, could have cared less.

"He did nothing to promote the album," several of them told me over the weekend.

LaBelle booked herself onto the "Good Morning America" outdoor concert series for the morning of July 1, two weeks after "Classic Moments" was shipped.

That kind of national exposure was a surefire way to sell albums. According to friends, no one from Def Jam showed up before the show began.

"We had them open the Bryant Park Grill so we could take Patti inside and calm her down," says someone who was there. "When L.A. Reid showed up, he promised her there would be more promotion for the album and more attention. But nothing happened."

All summer, LaBelle did her own publicity and promotion, waiting for the various Def Jam departments to kick in.

Meanwhile, planning had begun for the 60th-birthday extravaganza in the Bahamas. The company was asked by the producers to put some money in, or provide some kind of involvement. The producers were met with stone silence.

On Aug. 31, LaBelle performed at the World Music Awards in California. She sang "I'll Stand By You" and got a huge standing ovation.

"People were going crazy," says a source. "L.A. Reid came backstage and said to Patti, 'What a great song! Why haven't you recorded it?'"

LaBelle apparently told him, "It's on the album you've refused to do anything for."

At that point, the die was cast. Rumors began circulating that Def Jam would drop LaBelle, one of the half-dozen or so reigning divas of soul including Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight, Dionne Warwick, Natalie Cole and Tina Turner.

This column called Def Jam in mid-September to ask if the company was doing anything special for the 60th birthday, like recording it for DVD or CD release, or sponsoring it financially.

"It's Patti's project," said a spokesperson. "We have nothing to do with it. I think we were asked to underwrite a casino night, but that's not for us."

By the beginning of October, it was unclear whether some artists could make the TV taping. But Usher and Outkast were confirmed, and plans went ahead for their participation.

Usher was even offered a midnight birthday party of his own, all expenses paid. He'd gladly accepted.

But by midweek, he and his manager/mother weren't returning phone calls. Neither was Outkast. Beyoncé suddenly begged off as well, although she sent flowers.

LaBelle took the stage Friday night at the magnificent Atlantis full of fury and fire.

"I've been in this business for 45 years," she told the a.ssembled crowd after a series of terrific performances by her guest stars, including Nelly, who doesn't sing but sweetly appeared on stage with a towel to pat Patti off and brought her water when she needed it.

"I've done everything myself. The record labels don't care about you. I'm not here because of them. I don't care who knows it," she said, referring to the Def Jam calamity.

She used some four-letter words she said later she hoped her two elderly aunts in the audience would permit.

"I told Ivana Trump what happened, and she said 'F' em if they don't appreciate you.'"

Her comments were met with an explosion of thunderous applause.

It was a bravura moment, full of real emotion. It showed just how awful the record business has become.

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After all the RWU drama this was expected. He obviously wanted to do things his way and expected Janet to roll over and do as she was told. Janet doesnt work that way. 

Makes me wonder what happens when he is in the room with Mariah. Guess we can assume that she just does what she is told which is weird cuz ive never looked at her that way.

Mariah is a butterfly sweetheart, now having said that considering the direction her albums and promo has gone, which is nowhere as of late, I can only assume Mariah is a very talented puppet. I dont think she knows what she's doing from one moment to the next, she's probably drunk :umm:

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Mariah is a butterfly sweetheart, now having said that considering the direction her albums and promo has gone, which is nowhere as of late, I can only assume Mariah is a very talented puppet. I dont think she knows what she's doing from one moment to the next, she's probably drunk :umm:

 

She can sing, produce, and [sorta] write but outside that, she has no idea what she's doing. LA Reid was pulling her strings in 2005.. He kinda gave up on her in 2015 since he allowed her to release Infloppity 

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Does Michael Jackson's 2014 album count? If no.. His last hit album was Justin Bieber's 2010 album 

 

I'm not sure why you're upset though.. He told the truth.. Janet don't play 

Im upset because thats not the truth, we all know the relationship fell apart, and he derailed that album, now he opens his mouth again and again basically blaming Janet. "Oh she was difficult to work with" .....um no tell the real truth, "she wouldn't do as I told her" then I'd believe him :coffee: "she doesn't play sit, stay, and go fetch very well"

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Im upset because thats not the truth, we all know the relationship fell apart, and he derailed that album, now he opens his mouth again and again basically blaming Janet. "Oh she was difficult to work with" .....um no tell the real truth, "she wouldn't do as I told her" then I'd believe him :coffee: "she doesn't play sit, stay, and go fetch very well"

He answered the question straight-forward... It's his truth and there's nothing you can do about it

It only strengthens Janet in my eyes as a powerhouse.

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