Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 As a show stopping ENTERTAINER is what I was referring to. She was the MUST SEE entertainer of that time. I lived it Austin. I remember it vividly. Im not some deuluded fan that came along in 01' or something. I WAS HERE WHEN JANET WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF HER STATUS AND POPULARITY. You can feel its not that great all day but I lived "the moment". We can agree to disagree but I think we're battling on two different fields. You feel the era was overrated and all Im saying is it was HUGE and WHY it was huge. Thats it..thats all. You are entitled to feel its overrated all day..thats not my concern but to act like "If" is not one of her most recognizable? I STRONGLY disagree. I'm not denying that the era was massive, but I'm just saying it's overrated. There are certain eras were it lacks, and once again for fans to think its her magnum opus is complete lunacy. Just because she was popular? Please. Just because she was sexy? Please. Just because of a breakdown? Please. As a consummate era, Control and RN1814 are the strongest. There's a reason why Control and RN1814 are held in a higher regard than janet. and TVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It means that I was around when Janet became who she is now..from Control up until the present. Janet's classics are considered her "earlier" work. RN is arguably her most legendary moment..but "If" is my favorite video of all time.."If" is one of her most iconic routines ever. It's rarely changed during her tours because it's that legendary. And I don't agree with what some of what Austin is saying..he's expressed his opinion about those routines before..it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right. POINT BLANK Austin's opinion cant erase history. I guarantee if a random poll was posted on some site asking whats Janet's best video/ most iconic routine ever.. "If" would come in with HUGE poll numbers. I wouldnt be surprised if it overtook RN to be honest. Fans and non fans simply loved that breakdown,PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 "If" is recognized as one of her all time best dance videos, "That's the Way Love Goes" is one of her most idolized, hell "Again",the song, got a fucking Academy Award nomination!! Is he fucking serious?? I just...no. No. i cant take him seriously that whole janet era made janet a superstar, icon, sex symbol of course the RN is great musically and for its message etc but janet took her out of that military uniform, and made her a new person HOT not to mention it was a successful era anyway she was like the "it" girl @ the time everyone wanted to be janet it just had so much spillover effect It means that I was around when Janet became who she is now..from Control up until the present. Janet's classics are considered her "earlier" work. RN is arguably her most legendary moment..but "If" is my favorite video of all time.."If" is one of her most iconic routines ever. It's rarely changed during her tours because it's that legendary. And I don't agree with what some of what Austin is saying..he's expressed his opinion about those routines before..it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right. It woulda been great to see the Control era, because thats probably my fav album I just love the whole concept and the songs woulda been great to see her launching her career We know Austin says this stuff, but its just so stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I'm not denying that the era was massive, but I'm just saying it's overrated. There are certain eras were it lacks, and once again for fans to think its her magnum opus is complete lunacy. Just because she was popular? Please. Just because she was sexy? Please. Just because of a breakdown? Please. As a consummate era, Control and RN1814 are the strongest. There's a reason why Control and RN1814 are held in a higher regard than janet. and TVR. Well I think that era was so special becuz it was the first time it seemed even she grabbed NON FANS attention to some degree. The non fans liked something from that era. Whether it was the sexy image,the hair,the breakdown,TTWLG song...just something. You may not like the bitch or think she cant sing but it was something about that era that caught your attention and alot of it probably comes from ppl not expecting Janet to come back so "fresh and new". She went in a direction that no one anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It woulda been great to see the Control era, because thats probably my fav album I just love the whole concept and the songs woulda been great to see her launching her career We know Austin says this stuff, but its just so stupid That's what I meant by my original post. I was a product of seeing Janet when she became a star in her own right. The attitude, the videos, the music were on point. She became her own woman. And she got better with each release. She literally became an icon after RN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 POINT BLANK Austin's opinion cant erase history. I guarantee if a random poll was posted on some site asking whats Janet's best video/ most iconic routine ever.. "If" would come in with HUGE poll numbers. I wouldnt be surprised if it overtook RN to be honest. Fans and non fans simply loved that breakdown,PERIOD. I use to get tired of all the dance groups doing the routine at talent shows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn1814 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I didn't hear much talk about TPP until this site to be honest Its always been RN,then IF ..that breakdown STICKS in ppls head. Soon as they hear that Diana/Supremes sample kick in..ppl know whats bout to come and they go nuts cuz its always anticipated. Actually it's RN, TPP then IF.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexus97 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 PASTOR HAS LOST HIS MIND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I use to get tired of all the dance groups doing the routine at talent shows.. I still see mofoz doin it Thats brings up another point. You seen that being imitated more the RN, tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Actually it's RN, TPP then IF.. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 That's what I meant by my original post. I was a product of seeing Janet when she became a star in her own right. The attitude, the videos, the music were on point. She became her own woman. And she got better with each release. She literally became an icon after RN. I know! Was so good woulda been great to see that evolution I saw it with RN - janet etc, and i got into the control stuff later on And that's why I think Austin doesn't see how much impact janet had, because he never lived it of course it's not her best album but it was the whole theme, and her being "janet" instead of "janet jackson". Her whole stand for independence (even tho she claimed that with Control, this was like Janet becoming a woman) I'm not even sure people are aware that Control was nominated for Album of Year. That woulda been huge. Her first proper album, and its getting all that grammy buzz and JJ/TL winning for their production and the singles were really successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 My threads were soooo not to make this about Janet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexus97 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It means that I was around when Janet became who she is now..from Control up until the present. Janet's classics are considered her "earlier" work. RN is arguably her most legendary moment..but "If" is my favorite video of all time.."If" is one of her most iconic routines ever. It's rarely changed during her tours because it's that legendary. And I don't agree with what some of what Austin is saying..he's expressed his opinion about those routines before..it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right. exactly esp when they interview other entertainers they all bring up the if video.. pastor has spoken this blasphemy before yes...he needs to take a seat in the church basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 PASTOR HAS LOST HIS MIND exactly esp when they interview other entertainers they all bring up the if video.. pastor has spoken this blasphemy before yes...he needs to take a seat in the church basement time for a new pastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray. Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I was around when Janet became who she is now..from Control up until the present. same here. i remember everythang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Well I think that era was so special becuz it was the first time it seemed even she grabbed NON FANS attention to some degree. The non fans liked something from that era. Whether it was the sexy image,the hair,the breakdown,TTWLG song...just something. You may not like the bitch or think she cant sing but it was something about that era that caught your attention and alot of it probably comes from ppl not expecting Janet to come back so "fresh and new". She went in a direction that no one anticipated. Again, I understand all that, but the janet. era lacks. Everything was PERFECT like during the RN1814 era. There isn't one flaw in that era. If you're looking for full circle, janet. just isn't it. Also, the same could be said about RN1814 and Control. Nobody expected Janet to be successful with Control. Hell even the critics were against her calling it a fluke and she STILL prevailed. And with RN1814 ppl didn't think she could do it but she made a moment in music. No female artist had completely dominated EVERYTHING like Janet did during the RN1814 era. The only other person that did it was Whitney with TBG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 POINT BLANK Austin's opinion cant erase history. I guarantee if a random poll was posted on some site asking whats Janet's best video/ most iconic routine ever.. "If" would come in with HUGE poll numbers. I wouldnt be surprised if it overtook RN to be honest. Fans and non fans simply loved that breakdown,PERIOD. I can guarantee you if I asked a few random ppl on Twitter, they will say RN is more memorable than If. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 I vote for Austin to be impeached and excommunicated from his pastor status. I also nominate myself as the new pastor for my own church and will have a new sermon up every Saturday Morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Overruled. 13,000 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Coming from the blasphemous pastor? We shall hear from the church Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It means that I was around when Janet became who she is now..from Control up until the present. Janet's classics are considered her "earlier" work. RN is arguably her most legendary moment..but "If" is my favorite video of all time.."If" is one of her most iconic routines ever. It's rarely changed during her tours because it's that legendary. And I don't agree with what some of what Austin is saying..he's expressed his opinion about those routines before..it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. Doesn't necessarily mean he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyna ♔ Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 exactly esp when they interview other entertainers they all bring up the if video.. pastor has spoken this blasphemy before yes...he needs to take a seat in the church basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetDAYZ Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I can guarantee you if I asked a few random ppl on Twitter, they will say RN is more memorable than If. I already said IF is behind RN I said I wouldn't be surprised if IF overtook RN in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonder Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I already said IF is behind RN I said I wouldn't be surprised if IF overtook RN in some cases. Rest assured that it won't. RN is Janet's shinning moment in videos. Hence why it's the most acclaimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboy06 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I hope you're rested in your location in Janet's new weave.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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